This is really funny because either he should probably demand a retraction from the LA Times for inventing quotes or he thinks saying she doesn't write her own songs isn't discrediting her songwriting.
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Damon Albarn (Blur, Gorillaz) Claims Taylor Swift Doesn't Write Her Own Songs, Gets Called Out By Swift, Blames Clickbait
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This is really funny because either he should probably demand a retraction from the LA Times for inventing quotes or he thinks saying she doesn't write her own songs isn't discrediting her songwriting.
I don't get what the difference is between Billie Eilish co-writing songs with her brother, Taylor Swift co-writing songs with her producer(s), and Damon co-writing songs with Blur (Graham/Alex/Dave).
I like artists that write on their own too, but there is no right or wrong way to compose a song. A lot of my favorite songwriters ever have a songwriting partner (Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Garcia/Hunter, etc).
I like artists that write on their own too, but there is no right or wrong way to compose a song. A lot of my favorite songwriters ever have a songwriting partner (Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Garcia/Hunter, etc).
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He likes Eilish's music and doesn't like Swift's lol is probably the crux of that
Honestly as a Albarn fan, this quote from him doesn't surprise me at all. I highly believe that the last time he heard a Swift track was in 2008 at best lol. This is a man who lives in remote places like Iceland or the Congo. Man is a bit out of touch when it comes to pop stuff imo. His team probably mentioned the trending and he is going to take the L like a man cause God help you when you have Swifties bugging your management twitter account.
The circle-jerk about writing one's own songs I'll never get. I mean, I DO! It's amazing if you ARE a singer/songwriter; but some people out there might genuinely be better at writing than performing. while some singers are probably better at performing than writing. 🤷♀️ Everyone gets work and the world gets more good music.
Definitely calling out his quote too though. Her writing her stuff was always a part of her appeal I thought.
Definitely calling out his quote too though. Her writing her stuff was always a part of her appeal I thought.
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I mean, she says she does, so what reason do you have to question? You think she's just incapable of writing her own songs?
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I mean I don't think he's talking it like a man, he's blaming "misquoted" and pretending he didn't call her not a songwriter lol
Separating women in music from their artistry is a favored pursuit among bored old men.
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If I had to guess the difference is that Billie and/or her brother have written all the songs on her albums while Swift has multiple co-writers on every album. Also Blur is band while Taylor and Billie are solo artists.
Iceland isn't at all remote.
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The follow up literally was a life line to get him out of what he said and instead he doubled down by pretending co writing is fake writing or some weird nonsense
This is like watching my children fight. Be nice! Let me love you both in peace.
EDIT: God damn, Damon says a lot of dumb shit in this interview. Far from the first time he's put his foot in his mouth, but this one is pretty rough.
EDIT: God damn, Damon says a lot of dumb shit in this interview. Far from the first time he's put his foot in his mouth, but this one is pretty rough.
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Look when I called you an asshole and the times printed it that's clickbait I apologize it was never my intention to imply that you're an asshole when I said you're an asshole.
This is the funniest gymnastics I've seen lol.
She either writes or co-writes every song she's ever put on an album.
Oh I'm not defending Damon for his quotes at all lol. I'm just saying that this is why we are all here talking about it now. He brought it on himself the moment the journalist brought up Taylor's name and he should have merely dismissed whatever tangent they were going on. If anything he has previous history of not caring about Taylor's music in printed media before.
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She has an image to protect? I certainly believe she's wrote many but not every single one
Cos If I was a man
They'd say I hustled
Put in the work
They wouldn't shake their heads and question how much of this I deserve
They'd say I hustled
Put in the work
They wouldn't shake their heads and question how much of this I deserve
Big Damon fan, but that's a big ooof. How hard is it not to mouth off when you don't know what you're talking about?
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As talented as Albarn is, he's always been an arsehole- easily the least likeable member of Blur.
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Does he? He sounds like he's just scared of Swift's relative power
So you have nothing to base your post on is what your saying.
If you were a true Damon fan, you would know that he has said hilariously inaccurate stuff before.
She may not be to your taste, but Taylor Swift is an excellent songwriter.
She doesn't write her own songs.
Of course she does. Co-writes some of them.
That doesn't count. I know what co-writing is. Co-writing is very different to writing. I'm not hating on anybody, I'm just saying there's a big difference between a songwriter and a songwriter who co-writes. Doesn't mean that the outcome can't be really great. And some of the greatest singers — I mean, Ella Fitzgerald never wrote a song in her life. When I sing, I have to close my eyes and just be in there. I suppose I'm a traditionalist in that sense. A really interesting songwriter is Billie Eilish and her brother. I'm more attracted to that than to Taylor Swift. It's just darker — less endlessly upbeat. Way more minor and odd. I think she's exceptional.
Old dude doesn't like Swift's music, went with a reactionary "she doesn't write her own songs" response, and then tried to dig himself out of it.
So you think she's just lying and not giving proper credit?
I'm legitimately asking out of curiosity, why would you doubt her when she says she writes all her songs? Something about her must make you feel she's not actually doing it.
(this is me giving you a chance to not come across incredibly misogynistic)
Damon collaborates with lots of artists on all his Gorillaz stuff, and even his "Solo" albums have just as many songwriters listed on them. See his 2021 solo album right here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nearer_the_Fountain,_More_Pure_the_Stream_Flows
That right there is what leads me to believe maybe the questions/answers aren't written out in the article exactly as they were asked. Because his "take" here makes zero sense if those were really his words. He would be calling out himself too.
Oh, maybe. You just don't usually see things like "I apologise unreservedly and unconditionally" very often.
does modern musician mean an average of ten people who are very famous? how can someone be in music and say something like that...? music is being made everywhere and more and more people are putting their original stuff out there, how can you say "name me one" confident that you will not be rebutted with hundreds and hundreds of names...?
this is boomer levels of thinking you know everything there is to know about your art but cannot spend the seconds to consider that you might be out of touch
this is boomer levels of thinking you know everything there is to know about your art but cannot spend the seconds to consider that you might be out of touch
She's written or co-written every song she's released, which is not different from Eilish. And Swift has an album with zero co-writers, which I don't believe Eilish does.
Which isn't putting down Eilish, just not agreeing that this was Damon's justification because it doesn't agree with the facts we have. Like said earlier: he just likes Eilish more, so he gives her more credit (but too much, has to give some to her brother).
Its like why say something and then immediately backtrack? At least stand behind your opinion
I firmly believe most pop stars men or women have some form of help writing there songs at some point in there career
I love Damon but he is nuts if he thinks Billie Eilish's song writing abilities are better than Taytay's.
Well, this is not a matter of opinion. His was a statement of fact. She either writes her own songs or she doesn't.
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But he's not actually apologizing for what he said he's apologizing for the LA Times supposedly clickbaiting his nuanced discussion about song writing lol despite him being on record saying that she doesn't write and co-writing isn't writing
Like he's not retracting anything he said he's just pretending his blatant words were represented of his intentions which is nonsense unless the quotes are fake
I mean, there's literally mountains of video of her sitting and working out songs in her process. Just google it/go to youtube. You could spend dozens of hours watching her sitting alone with her cats and working out melodies, chords, lyrics. There's documentary footage. There's other artists describing watching her process/working with her as co-writers -- and there's video of a lot of that too.
When she talks about it, she is so knowledgable, so passionate, so excited. I don't blame her for being pissed. She's a damn control freak/perfectionist. I don't even think she'd be capable of relinquishing that power to someone else completely on any sort of scale.
When she talks about it, she is so knowledgable, so passionate, so excited. I don't blame her for being pissed. She's a damn control freak/perfectionist. I don't even think she'd be capable of relinquishing that power to someone else completely on any sort of scale.
I would be too considering how, hmmm, "active" her fanbase can get online. If I was famous that's a beehive I'd never kick lmao
I actually didn't know that Swift wrote her music.
I knew she wrote the lyrics but now I am a little more impressed by her.
I knew she wrote the lyrics but now I am a little more impressed by her.
The hardest part is creating the music. You can still be an amazing performer that can sell out arenas but it is less impressive if you are just focused on the music if they are just buying the beats or music from another producer and penning their own lyrics on top of it.