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Daisy Ridley denies that her privilege made her more confident to navigate her celebrity, compares her experience to co-star John Boyega
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No need to edit your response? Please finish about what "us guys" do.
This is a common pattern with rich youngsters. It's not very different from rich college kids always being "poor". Working retail or bartending for a few months here and there is like going to the zoo for these people.
I'm on mobile,
But i will go there
You guys, always search for injustice for the sake of searching where there isn't, always trying to pit people against people
Like this journo, trying to pit Ridley against Boyega when they are friends.
It's ridiculous
This post is the definition of white privilege. The answer is 100% yes, if you are white, you are privileged.
She can comment on her own life effecting how she handles fame but her equivocating her and John doesn't fly. I don't know the details of either of their lives as I don't follow celebrities like that but I think she should of stopped at detailing her personal dealings with confidence.
For example my fiance and I met at work and have the same job but our journey here and our success at the our job comes from two different places. She is confident and capable because she has never had any set backs in life and came from a wealthy neighborhood and always expects things to go well. So she approaches things with out fear of failure. I on the other hand came from a single parent house hold, was a victim of child abuse and spent a pretty significant portion of my child hood in a state of starvation. My confidence at work is based on the feeling that nothing the job can throw at me can be worse than what I've lived through.
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No I don't Einchy, I do know that when the question got expanded she started mentioning her experience(in the context of privilege) was similar to Boyega.
Oh boy, yes. White people are automatically privileged because no matter their wealth, education level etc. they don't have to deal with the systemic oppression that is brought on by racism.
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exactly
they grew on totally different backgrounds and yet they have the same confidence or handled fame the same
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Again, everything she says is within the context of how her privileged helped her deal with fame or gave her confidence. You choosing to believe she switched subjects and then went back to the original question is just you wanting to read into this what you want to hear, rather than what she said.
Again, this is why this is such a good bait question. She can answer what was asked, and then people just choose to believe her answer was to a completely different question.
She was never asked if she had privileged, her answers her never in response to a question that she wasn't asked. Why are we treating her renpose like it's her saying she doesn't have privilege then?
She didn't equate like that... she is not saying they are equal.
She is saying john and her are similar in how they learned to deal with fame and john had less privilege... so she doesn't think that factored in much.
I mean, it might have... privilege is all encompassing after, but that question would take some thinking about to properly answer. After being put on the spot by a very weirdly framed question she struggled to answer in very little time and the interviewer did her best to frame it as her outright denying her priveledge when that is not what happened.
See above... she means they both have similar confidence and ways they respond to dealing with fame, and as john has less priveledge it doesn't seem to her like it was a main factor in this specific aspect.
She did not say they are equal on the way you're suggesting.
Thread title should be changed.
Daisy doesn't deny her privilege.
-She denies that her privilege made her more confident to navigate her celebrity.
Reread the article.
The question was specifically about confidence with celebrity.
Daisy doesn't deny her privilege.
-She denies that her privilege made her more confident to navigate her celebrity.
Reread the article.
The question was specifically about confidence with celebrity.
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all white people? hahahaha
the majority of white people and people in general for that matter are not winners
dep, get born in a fishing village to low income family,/.... but but but white whiteee privlegde
this is a SHUT DOWN reply and does not help anybody advance to issue anywhere
Y...y........yes?
This your first time discussing privilege in the context of race and culture on this planet? Really?
Since you want to go there, I'm game. First, don't "you guys" me because I'm a member of era. I'm probably the last fucking dude here who goes on every topic trying to find some shit to get upset about. I see some names here who do so much more than me defending the woman, so I think you're barking up the wrong tree. There's zero need for the generalizations either way.
I didn't criticize daisy, I didn't criticize anyone saying it was a gotcha question. I called your bullshit out because you're on here acting like white privilege isn't a thing, then when called on it, you want to hit me with the "you guys always search for injustice" nonsense like you're some troll from kiwi farms or The_Donald even though I never criticized the actor in question. So seriously, please kick rocks with your bull.
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the fact that people wont mistrust you just for the color of your skin, is already privilege mate.
nobody is saying that white people do not struggle in life.
People who actually read the article should defend Daisy.
Because she's not denying her privilege exists. She's denying it helped make her more confident.
People in this thread are misconstruing "confidence" with "success" and twisting it with a denial of a privileged upbringing, which she has not denied.
blanket general shut down replies does not advance the discussion anywhere
Get born in a fishing village to a low income family AND have to deal with institutional racism and systemic oppression in every facet of your daily life. Privelege doesn't mean that white people have it easy, it means that they aren't saddled with the systemic issues that minorities face.
Exactly...
Lots of people like you not knowing how to read between the interviewer's shitty framing of the weird question.
I don't understand how these types of posts escape moderation.
They're so thinly veiled.
You don't understand the term privilege. All things being equal, there are systemic advantages that white people have purely based on the color of their skin. No one is saying that all white people have it easy.
I mean one example is a black woman getting about 10x more call backs after changing her name on her resume to a white sounding name.
This is my last attempt to try and actually help you understand, otherwise I'll let the mods take the trash out.
Usually because no one reports them. Mods can't act if they don't know about them.
I mean this in the friendliest way possible - take a break from the thread. Go do some reading on (white) privilege. What you're doing right now isn't a good look.
You want people here to read instead of running with hot takes? You should know better.
You have to report it when you see it. It's a damn shame to see posters here denying white privilege, then resorting to the "you guys always look for injustice" schtick when called out, yes.
How the hell are the two even comparable... Obviously Ford would get way more lmao
I'm going to venture to guess that most people that get checked for their privilege don't understand that being privileged doesn't mean you didn't have challenges or struggles, just that social dynamics work far more in your favor than others, often in ways you don't even need to think about. Being white in the western world is definitely a privileged position.
What privileged people almost always seem to misunderstand is that being privileged doesn't mean being free of struggle and challenges in your life. Literally everyone has those. But being privileged means there are certain social benefits you have that are automatic based on social identifiers.
Most privileged people don't ever even think about it, privilege is very often something you just take for granted and live with on a day-to-day basis, and is pretty much never explicitly outlined to you by anyone other than those who do not possess that privilege, so a lot of privileged people take to being called privileged as confrontational and generally just in bad faith.
What privileged people almost always seem to misunderstand is that being privileged doesn't mean being free of struggle and challenges in your life. Literally everyone has those. But being privileged means there are certain social benefits you have that are automatic based on social identifiers.
Most privileged people don't ever even think about it, privilege is very often something you just take for granted and live with on a day-to-day basis, and is pretty much never explicitly outlined to you by anyone other than those who do not possess that privilege, so a lot of privileged people take to being called privileged as confrontational and generally just in bad faith.
lol yeah, thats the kind of response peopl are trying to frame her response as
The interviewer tweeted out the interview and wrote this:
"I interviewed Daisy Ridley and you can read all her thoughts on life, Carrie Fisher, fame, not having privilege and so on here"
Really dishonest framing.
And while this is very true it has little to do with what happened in this interview.
She had a weirdly specific question sprung on her. She didn't deny priveledge, and given more time and an actual conversation we have no idea what here thoughts would be.
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All their editorial notes are BS. Like, why are you pretending you didn't specifically ask her how her privileged helped her with fame and her confidence?!
[fakespoilers]To bait people for those sweet sweet clicks.[/fakespoilers]
"I've been very fortunate."
That's it! That's all you gotta say! If anyone here somehow winds up in a similar situation, there's your get out of questioning free card.
That's it! That's all you gotta say! If anyone here somehow winds up in a similar situation, there's your get out of questioning free card.
In this climate, you'd think a good publicist would have worked her through topics like this, even if to only answer as diplomatically as possible. But...
Yep.
I read the interview and think a lot of people in this thread jumped to a pretty big conclusion here. The question was about her confidence and if growing up privileged helped her there. She says it didn't. I don't read her as equating her childhood to Boyega's.
Also, Boyega said in his Twitter reply that the reporter had her facts about his past wrong and that there's something to be learned from Daisy's experience as well. So...
I do think that a lot of wealthy people, and particularly white wealthy people, like to reinvent their story to sound like they overcame more challenges than they ever did. I'm not sure Daisy is doing that here.
Also, Boyega said in his Twitter reply that the reporter had her facts about his past wrong and that there's something to be learned from Daisy's experience as well. So...
I do think that a lot of wealthy people, and particularly white wealthy people, like to reinvent their story to sound like they overcame more challenges than they ever did. I'm not sure Daisy is doing that here.
As opposed to your contribution sarcastically quipping "So if youre white youre automatically privileged?". People are giving you easy shut down responses because its like arguing whether the earth is flat or whether vaccines cause autism. The answer to your question doesn't really require more explanation and the fact youre seemingly just realizing this is in and of itself pretty indicative of privilege.
lol what a cheap shot question.
Also yeah, a precious few people are even willing to recognize their privilege so I'm not terribly shocked.
Also yeah, a precious few people are even willing to recognize their privilege so I'm not terribly shocked.