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ShinUltramanJ

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,950
Never actually saw a fight break out in an arcade and I grew up in that era. I do know that some kids would meet at an arcade to fight though.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,991
Never got attacked at an arcade but I do remember playing X-Men with some jealous older kid. He ran out of quarters but I was still going on my last life. He said he knew a secret and, like the naive child I was, I let him take control. He calmly sent Nightcrawler barreling into a bottomless pit and walked away, his work clearly done.
 

TheDudePT

Banned
Oct 3, 2019
189
Portugal
Some great stories, but no one is commenting on the deeper things he said, about the crossroads in life where we define who we are, and decide to do what we love.

Daigo is a legend.
 

TheGhost

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,137
Long Island
Wow, the fighting genre sounds like it has a toxic as hell history judging by this thread.
I mean....it's a genre were you could humiliate people in front of their friends who were probably drunk and high at the time. Someone was bound to talk shit and then fists start flying or you find a group of guys waiting for you to leave when the pizza shop closes. It was the 90's
 

Trup1aya

Literally a train safety expert
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,390
I'm 30, so I guess I missed this Era growing up on east coast US. I don't think I've ever encountered a heated arcade gaming session.

Like no one has ever been good enough to get so frustrated when they lose... Except maybe some DDR gods, but they were all harmless

Its literally "all fun and games" anytime I've ever gone to the arcade.
 

RumHam

Alt Account
Banned
Feb 12, 2019
514
Lol ya'll think this was just in the arcades? One of our well known local players headbutted someone during a Marvel 3 tournament. lolol.
 

PtM

Banned
Dec 7, 2017
3,582
Listen to the 10 min talk and don´t just read the headline. Daigo drops some legit life lessons.

I moved to Germany in 1997. The arcade scene was dead then and I was way too poor for videogames before I immigrated from Russia so I never had to chance to be part of the scene. I played a few Sega machines in a casino (gambling is legal here and I only entered to play the games) and on a ship once.
So I took my punches in other ways. It´s not fun to get a blow to the face, oh no.
I don't think Germany ever had an arcade scene, at least not for minors. Arcades are legally treated like gambling machines.
 

DFG

Self requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,591
I recall beating someone at Guilty Gear X in the arcades back in 2004, I offered to show him how to play with a few free credits at my expense, he responded by kneeing me in the back and pushing my head into the glass screen.
Lmaooo you got Sol kicked from the back 😂
 

Mistouze

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,439
I didn't say that. That is totally not the point.

The point is: don't single out the FGC when most people everywhere are shitty.
Your point is toothless and doesn't try to solve anything though. But at least people won't take a hard look at toxicity in FGC culture, that's a win I guess.

I'll give you that at the root of things it's dudes getting competitive that are the source of shittiness but trying to deflect criticism of the FGC like you're doing is pretty lame. I don't come here thinking you're evil or some shit but you're certainly not part of any solution here.
 

Magneto

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,449
Your point is toothless and doesn't try to solve anything though. But at least people won't take a hard look at toxicity in FGC culture, that's a win I guess.

I'll give you that at the root of things it's dudes getting competitive that are the source of shittiness but trying to deflect criticism of the FGC like you're doing is pretty lame. I don't come here thinking you're evil or some shit but you're certainly not part of any solution here.

What are you talking about ? I've never ever seen people that were toxic in arcades at a tournament, I'm sure it's the same for most of the stories here. And no one said it was alright.

Why moving goalposts ?
 

NeroPaige

Member
Jan 8, 2018
1,709
I can recall some minor incidents but nothing I would call extreme for myself. I was also sort of sub-consciously street smart and sort of had a spider-sense about trouble.

With the amount of times I was at arcades I am lucky nothing major happened to me as a kid/teen. I do recall shit happening or hearing about shit happening from others.
 

PtM

Banned
Dec 7, 2017
3,582
after a friend showed me some smash bros tournament vids and the behavior of the players befitting of a misbehaving child throwing a violent tantrum i thought damn these are some shitty people. i thought it was contained to that particular game but damn with these stories it seems its just fighting games in general. i wonder what it is about fighting games that attract these people.
IIRC, there are studies that found a temporary raise in aggressiveness after playing (violent?) video games. Then there's probably also ideation, and the inverse, violent people seeking out violent games.
 

Goddo Hando

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,723
Chicago
i played a lot of fighting games during the heyday, but i think maybe because i was late highschool age, nobody really messed with me.

i'd have probably gotten my ass beat bigtime if i was like 5 years younger
 

Mistouze

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,439
What are you talking about ? I've never ever seen people that were toxic in arcades at a tournament, I'm sure it's the same for most of the stories here. And no one said it was alright.

Why moving goalposts ?
I'm not sure "moving goalposts" means what you think it means but ok. I'm not going to engage in this line of discussion here since it's not the topic at hand.
 

laxu

Member
Nov 26, 2017
2,782
It's usually too filled with the smell of tobacco for any other smell to be recognized.

This is how I remember them, at least the ones that were somewhat proper arcades in my country. The situation is about the same in Japanese arcades still where you know you have found the PvP arcade floor when you can smell the tobacco and not much else.

I've never had anything bad happen to me at an arcade though. Don't even remember anyone getting violent over a game.
 

Kamek

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,977
In NYC there's an arcade called Chinatown Fair which was kind of the bastion for fighting games back on the day before ownership changed.

I've send hands thrown there so many times at the corner, (people usually fought outside from what I saw) and 95% of the time it was over Marvel (2). I would say 45% of the time, it was over sidebets, and sometimes over shit talking. For the most part though everyone knows each other so it's peaceful enough.
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,149
Arcades (and pizza shops, 7-11s, Laundromats, Papi Stores, etc.) could get down right reckless in the 90s. I remember they used to bet 50 bucks a game on "Run n Gun" at the pizza store. There was always some racist shit toward what ever asian kid who happened to be nice in Street Fighter, like he had an inherently extra skill.
 

Chaos2Frozen

Member
Nov 3, 2017
28,055
Your point is toothless and doesn't try to solve anything though. But at least people won't take a hard look at toxicity in FGC culture, that's a win I guess.

I'll give you that at the root of things it's dudes getting competitive that are the source of shittiness but trying to deflect criticism of the FGC like you're doing is pretty lame. I don't come here thinking you're evil or some shit but you're certainly not part of any solution here.

You seem to have a misunderstanding what this is about.

Arcades were a common hangout spots for gangs and other ruffians back in the days (and probably now) which leads to all this story of violence that people are sharing.

This isn't gaming toxicity, these people aren't 'gamers' lol. This is true thuggery we're making.
 

VariantX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,891
Columbia, SC
You seem to have a misunderstanding what this is about.

Arcades were a common hangout spots for gangs and other ruffians back in the days (and probably now) which leads to all this story of violence that people are sharing.

This isn't gaming toxicity, these people aren't 'gamers' lol. This is true thuggery we're making.

Yep. Gangs in particular are part of the reason some of the ones around here got shut down. They kept scaring everyone else off not only from the arcades but the mall itself.
 

Kelanflyter

Banned
Nov 9, 2017
1,730
France
When I was about 10, I was playing a soccer game in an arcade when I felt someone pinch my ass. I turned around and it was a teenaged girl. She winked at me and walked off. I was too young at the time to link the act to anything sexual, but it was definitely weird.
Same experience at Eurodisney Paris playing Darkstakers with friends. It was 2 spanish girls.
 

ScOULaris

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,633
These stories of arcade thuggery are bringing back warm, nostalgic memories for me. God damn do I miss early-to-mid 90's arcades. We'll never see anything like them again.
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,149
The arcade scene in early 90's in Philly was pretty bad. Was playing KOF 98 and this guy was literally breathing down my neck trying to intimidate me to give the guy I was up against an advantage. Probably one of his friends or something. Dude threatened to gank me after I won a round.

It was definitely interesting time period for the arcade scene.

SpacePort on Chestnut St. used to get hectic back then. And that in West Philly when there used to be Arcades on 40st. Still, overall it was the most fun you could have (legally) for 5 bucks.
 

NeroPaige

Member
Jan 8, 2018
1,709
When people's stories are aggregated in one place it makes it sound bad, some places were always bad news though, always. And even if a place wasn't bad in general, if you play long enough you'll eventually have some story to share. Other places were quiet and rare to see any trouble. Arcades were everywhere in corner stores, video rental stores, laundromats and some are dedicated arcades (some inside malls) and so on.

It's a shame arcades are a phenomenon of a past era in the west. I know there are some current mediocre casual-places calling themselves "Arcades", but you pay up front to enter and there isn't exactly pro-players putting quarters on top of the cabinets and the big (Time Crisis / Fist of the North Star / Dancing) machines they have are usually busted-up, no sound working or something wrong with them (like worse than usual lol).
 

Fahdi

Member
Jun 5, 2018
1,390
Imagine this movie scenario for back in the day (I woulda been a millionaire for this cheese alone):

You in the 90's-00's, a new kid on the block, with a local arcade that has an SF/Tekken/MK cabinet and you deal with bullying by some local thugs who make it hard for you to become the champ, and one unlikely anomaly you call your rival who beats you everytime. So you work hard at night conspiring with the arcade owner who teaches you all the things that others don't know, who is now effectively your mentor. You then fight off a gang by outsmarting them in the games becoming a neighborhood god so they (your friends and adults) are ready to beat some thug ass with you because "power in numbers". Finally at a world tournament you meet up with your rival, first beat the fantastic 4 from the regions and beat him as well, becoming forever the legend.

LOL, more details could have been added if I wanted to.

I laughed at a lot of people's stories just now. Thank you.
 

Brivs

Creative Director, BancyCo
Verified
Nov 4, 2017
339
Toronto
These stories are amazing. There was a surprisingly great arcade in a mall in a small city in rural Ontario I went to from 1993–1996. Got to play every MK, SF, KI permutation.

I remember the first time I walked in and saw MK, and it was like a door to another world had opened.

I also remember almost getting beat up by some dudes at least 5 years older than in an arcade in Ottawa. I didn't know the arcade had an unspoken mercy rule and thrashed them. I bolted!

Similarly, I murdered some college kid as a high schooler in MK2 and was pretty sure I was going to get murdered myself. His friends were laughing at him and he was pissed!
 

Mesoian

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
26,552
I got punched in an arcade in college. That was about the time I decided to be done with the NYC bemani community.
 

MegaMix

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
786
An advantage of fighting games moving from arcades to game lounges is that the atmosphere and community really discourage this.
 

Doc Holliday

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,816
"Yo shorty, if you throw another fireball i'm gonna beat the shit out of you. btw you got a dollar?" Ahh the memories of playing playing SF II in the Bronx in the early 90s lol
 

Dirtyshubb

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,555
UK
When I was 10/11 years old, me and my nephew (same age) went to the arcade at the bowling alley just across the road from my house.

A 15 year old started on me for no reason, insulting me etc. I ended up telling him to piss off so he suddenly decided to grab me and started punching me out of nowhere in the face about 5 or 6 times. Once he stopped I ran off crying, blood everywhere and one of my front teeth fell out of my mouth into my hand.

Staff took me to an office and my nephew ran to get my dad. Had to go to the hospital and have stitches put into my gums, couldn't save my front tooth and the tooth next to it had been dislodged and was now lower and caused extreme pain if moved. Was given a gum shield to keep my mouth open to prevent it getting touched while it healed.

The boy ended up getting a caution from the police and that was that.

Really fucked me up for years, became scared of groups walking towards me, if anyone took the piss at school it was like a switch that would set me off and I would wanna fight them.

Only solace was that I got £1,500 in criminal compensation which allowed me to get my PS1 plus other stuff and that helped continue my love of video games.

Eventually got over it but it took quite a few years for me to come to terms with it.
 

OuterLimits

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
987
I was always one of the losers playing skee ball at the arcades. Anything that spit out crappy tickets that could be redeemed for shitty prizes, I was playing. Oh sweet, I only need a couple thousand more tickets for a small crap tv. I did get pretty good at skee ball though.
 

residentgrigo

Banned
Oct 30, 2019
3,726
Germany
Worthy of a topic but I am a junior:

"The Abema Times website reported on Monday that there are only about 4,000 arcades in Japan as of 2018, down from the peak of 26,000 arcades in 1986.
In the article, the managers of Tokyo arcades Game Spot Versus and Game Newton mentioned that console games and smartphone games have evolved to match the graphic capabilities of arcade machines and that people can also play multiplayer over the Internet without the need to meet up in an arcade. While there are still people playing classic games such as Street Fighter II, the average age of arcade game players has steadily increased over time, to the point that arcade-run tournaments will commonly have people aged 40 or above.
The famous Kowloon-themed arcade Anata no Warehouse Kawasaki (pictured right) near Yokohama is closing on Sunday."

The 40+ comment is noteworthy if you consider that gaming is very very youth-focused in Japan. The scene is clearly aging out of existence and the Pachinko scene has its own problems. (Fuck gambling.)
 

Shadoken

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,206
Your point is toothless and doesn't try to solve anything though. But at least people won't take a hard look at toxicity in FGC culture, that's a win I guess.

I'll give you that at the root of things it's dudes getting competitive that are the source of shittiness but trying to deflect criticism of the FGC like you're doing is pretty lame. I don't come here thinking you're evil or some shit but you're certainly not part of any solution here.

Have you been to a modern FGC event ? Sure things were bad back then. But people and the community are working on improving things now. Its not perfect , but people do take action.

Saying "FGC has toxic culture " isn't really wrong , but saying "This ONLY happens in the FG genre" is factually wrong and isn't deflecting criticism. This happens in all competitive gaming genres and sports.
 
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Shadoken

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,206
An advantage of fighting games moving from arcades to game lounges is that the atmosphere and community really discourage this.

Its mostly due to the cost of entry/gameplay time.

Any random drunk dude on the street could walk in and put a quarter to get a game , then get salty if he loses. In a game lounge you are spending money and getting time regardless if you win or lose.
 

MrNewVegas

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,724
This is just what happens with competitive things. Dosent matter if it's video games. Playing poker I've had my life threatened more times than you can count. Seen fights, shit thrown at dealers. People can't handle losing to other people.
 

Heri

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,427
Wow, some of the anecdotes in this thread are really scary, if I had seen things like that I would never go back to those places.

For me, the experience in the arcade was a positive one, but I usually played cooperative games, not competitive ones, so maybe that was the reason.