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If it doesn't release on the 10th, I'll buy you a copy of it whenever it does release.
I'm that sure December 10th is really it this time.
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Cyberpunk 2077 Night City WIRE: Episode 5 |OT| Time moves in one direction, memory in another [Media Impressions, Console Footage & Discussion]
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I'm that sure December 10th is really it this time.
I didn't suggest it wasn't a gaming forum.
I really don't understand what is confusing about my comment...
...not sure what you're getting at. Just because it's "gaming" doesn't mean people can't discuss the morally bankrupt philosophies and attitudes behind studios and publishers.
Not sure I'd appreciate being called "dawg" either in conversations like this, but I feel similar for "guy' and "dude" in general yet use "pogged" so not sure it's quite that simple. I've mainly seen it used toward men which could be where the discomfort also comes from on LampTramp's part too. If it was a criticism of using the word at large then I'd agree but in direct reference to a woman in a sensitive discussion? Seems off. Genuinely curious to know if that flies in the face of anything your end.
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That was not the issue I was highlighting.
The issue is people calling for others to be silent so they can discuss their video games in peace.
I don't think that's what that user is implying, though
So long as a user isn't causing problems for others and is genuinely excited for a game I don't understand what would be wrong about putting people or whole threads on ignore if they so choose. Not everyone has to agree and while I personally consider trans rights = human rights i'm not expecting everyone to be on that same level. As noted in the staff communication...
- It is okay to be excited for Cyberpunk 2077 and to want to play it. Do not attack other members merely for being excited for the game or planning to buy the game.
Oh, yeah I agree there. I think in that case the ignore button can be used so others can continue their discussion whilst the person can just...not see it.
You don't understand what is confusing about : This is not a "gaming forum first and foremost" and you stating that you never suggested this isn't a gaming forum?
. What is the difference between "a gaming forum first and foremost" and a "gaming forum" English is not my first language so I might be missing something.
Am I saying you can't discuss that? I am reacting to someone who says this is not a 'gaming forum first and foremost"
I don't get why it's so hard to just read over the posts you don't want to engage with. Or use the ignore button if you absolutely must. People are free to bring up the issues with the game and the company. I mean everyone here knows about them by now and everyone here has already made up their mind whether it deters them from buying and playing the game or not. Whatever that decision is, it's okay. At this point nothing will change your mind other than yourself. This thread has enough space to both discuss the game and the issues.
While the user might have ignored the OP of the thread, the thread itself is linked in the thread reply-banner for everyone to see, and is very difficult to miss, which may indicate bad faith on this user regardless. Users are free to repeal bans through the contact links, so we don't need to discuss this further here.
I'll be honest,after the years of hype I thought they might drop the ball to some extent but it seems like it really will be something very special.It's going to be a while before I play it though....I'm waiting for the full PS5 version.
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Reminder: Whataboutism with other companies, as well as meta-commentary on forum policies, will be treated as derailment and will be moderated going forward. Please stay on topic.
EDIT: just saw staff post above, will leave the post but not respond further.
As I said, we can argue all day about how successful it has been, but the community principles that this place were built on come BEFORE its function as a gaming forum, and this is clear if you read the forum rules, staff posts, etc...
This may be a gaming forum, but it was built by a community on specific ideals. First and foremost means the underlying principles this place was based on are more important than the function of the place.
As I said, we can argue all day about how successful it has been, but the community principles that this place were built on come BEFORE its function as a gaming forum, and this is clear if you read the forum rules, staff posts, etc...
But why? To me, that statement makes no sense at all. For us it isn't so easy as just saying "you aren't there yet, but one day you will be" and moving on. They are, by virtue of the name, our rights. I don't think it unfair to expect everyone to be on that level.
The thread providing the information has been around for over a month at this point, and it has been all over the place. It's totally fair to expect anyone on this site to be aware of the issues at a certain baseline level.
Reset Era was founded not just as a gaming forum but also as a community that provides a safe space for marginalized groups. I'm still excited to play the game but I think we should also realize, and try to take into consideration, that a lot of people here are ticked off at seeing this game in the spotlights since there have been multiple transphobic incidents.
Nobody is being forced to talk about this. But video games also portray parts of society in different ways. This is a huge game, and I think the issue here is that some people don't want to see these discussions happening outside of the thread detailing how CDPR is transphobic. Except that Cyberpunk 2077 is full of bad examples and problematic content that does hurt a part of the potential player base.
If discussion on the game is allowed, then maybe we cis members should be better at reading the room and respecting when it's time to discuss what the trans community wants to discuss. There will be plenty of time to talk about your enthusiasm for the game. And even if you don't want to discuss what they're saying or don't know what to say, why not just validate their feelings? Say you're sorry they're hurting, and you understand why. Trust me, it goes a long way, and no one will be banned for saying that.
Let me give an easy way on why this isn't defendable. Change trans rights to black rights and see why its completely dumb to defend anyone who would think that way.
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It's coming December 10th🤘💯
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I'm not made out of money, ya know😏
Maybe the first 5 people that ask me [counting the current 3] will get one - seriously.
That = 2 more "If there's another delay, Black Chamber buys me a copy" members👍
It's not getting delayed though - but I'll put my money where my mouth is if it does🤘💯
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What are folks REALISTIC meta/opencritic score range for this game?
I'm expecting 92-95.
Praised for Graphics, storytelling + characters, player choice and gameplay options. Knocked for technical issues and bugs.
I'm expecting 92-95.
Praised for Graphics, storytelling + characters, player choice and gameplay options. Knocked for technical issues and bugs.
You can't really police what people may internally believe. If someone chose to ignore the stickied thread on the issues with CDPR and ignore people discussing things besides the game itself in the thread I don't really see that as a breach of anything. They are not being rude about their beliefs by choosing to ignore discussion on topics they may disagree with. If they were being insulting towards other members then i'm sure they will catch a ban, but purposefully ignoring discussion is sort of the intention of the function.
Same. I think 93 but bogged down by tech issues and bugs, could see high 80s on consoles.
I've always fancied a collector's edition!
Let's hope it won't come to that haha.
Just tell them you will.
Don't worry, you won't have to...and you'll get braggin rights!
If LampTramp didn't want to be referred to as "dawg" because she felt it was a gendered term (which it really isn't, but thats not the point), I would 100% understand that. But to call it vulgar and compare it to an actual, real life slur? At best it's anti-black, at worst it's actively violent considering this site's history with policing AAVE and black slang.
Mid to high 80s because console versions will be riddled with technical issues thanks to technical limitations. MAYBE low 90s if everyone reviews on XSX's and PS5's so bruteforce paves over a lot of tech issues.
Nailed it, think for many reviewers the only con will be the performance and amount of bugs. Everything else will, in no small part thanks to the astronomic hype that invariably affects reviewers, be seen as a masterpiece.
Except in this topic it seems they are. Mazoo posted how excited she was in a topic about media impressions. A poster asked her to comment on the transphobia issues with CDPR, she didn't reply, was called a coward for not replying. I guess that is not 'literaly' forcing...but it is pretty close.
This right here I'm surprised at the reaction here. It's very common
A majority of the review copies they send out could be for PC. That would mitigate the damage caused by console version issues.
You said it yourself. She wasn't forced. There are no rules saying people should be forced to participate. Please read the rest of my post which is way more important than the first sentence.
The industry standard for AAA games. I wouldn't have it any other way. :D
That's sarcasm for the people in the back.
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I think at this point it has to be December 10th. Media impressions, a copy leaking (apparently), and the official gameplay trailer. The marketing is set now and it's too late to really take all that back.
With that said, CDPR please don't surprise me.
I assume they let outlets freely request copy they want (Xbox / PS / PC) and afaik huge majority reviews on consoles.
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So you banned someone for what they may have done ?
(No offense OPs of the world) No one looks at the first page, past the first page.
I think it'll be good but not *quite* that high lol.. 91-92 consoles, 95+ PC
It's literally at the bottom of every page.So you banned someone for what they may have done ?
(No offense OPs of the world) No one looks at the first page, past the first page.
It seems a bit cynical to suggest that professional reviewers give games high scores because of hype and not because they really enjoyed the game.
94, it won't get knocked for technical issues by the majority unless they are really bad. It might get the odd review mentioning crunch at CDPR and issues regarding trans representation that knock it down a bit.
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