Cyberpunk 2077 looks amazing, but I’m conflicted about supporting CD Projekt Red with the doubt they’ve cast around their social stances.

[Andrew-Ryan]

I don't think calling someone a "cocksucker" is any indication of being homophobic.

1) As people have pointed out, it's used so versatile and so colloquially that it's never ment in the literal sense. Like "fuck you".

2) On the subject of "fuck you", if we are looking at terms in the most literal of ways, then a lot of sexual euphemism (both homo and hetero) are used as slurs. "dick", "pussy", "prick", "cunt", "wanker", "rug mucher", "fuck", etc.. Is the use of any one of these words unequivocally indicative of ones feelings towards men, women, hetero and homosexuals?

Honestly "curse words" fall into one of two categories. Words that entail fecal matter or words that entail sexual aspects.

 

[Deleted member 888]

I think that it's for this reason, that said, I bet most of the people using the insult similarly put zero fucking thought into this angle. I think cocksucker, like so much other profanity, is just totally disconnected in a lot of people's minds from its literal meaning.

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That's kind of how language goes, for the majority of words. Susie has made the best videos on the most vulgar swear words, but does everyone use cunt the same? Nope



Like, it primarily refers to the vagina, but many in society now use it for the multitude of examples given above. A prime one being, simply crudely calling someone an idiot. At times renditions of calling someone a cocksucker hasn't been far off that too. Aim it at someone who has let you down, wronged you or been an idiot.

Hence why context and intent always matter. Maybe it's just the internet, but I rarely come across anyone in real life who cannot take the time to decipher intent or context and readjust opinions accordingly. The internet often seems to be like a Sith, dealing in absolutes.

 

[El_Chino]

Honest question.

Do you think about these things when you buy your electronics? Your clothing? Your food?

 

[julia crawford]

Yeah, probably not going for this either. What with all the hyper violence and the CD Project fumbles... easy to skip.

People should just buy Neuromancer instead. They would probably get more out of it too.

 

[Skyball Paint]

Pretty sure one of the things that makes Geralt unique is that he was not stripped of emotion by the Witcher trials

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Nah all the Witchers have emotions, Lambert especially. It's a stereotype that Witchers play to when it benefits them.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Honest question.

Do you think about these things when you buy your electronics? Your clothing? Your food?

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Me personally, yes.

 

[ZangBa]

I think the intent matters more than a literal definition for a word like cocksucker. It's most often used in a generic way.

 

[Phellps]

Your posts are calling for CDPR to self-censor and not use language you dislike in a hyperviolent, mature game world. I understand your issue with the game but I don't agree with taking one particular aspect out of a larger game because you find it particularly icky. And no, saying that does not mean I like school shooting simulators or whatever other crazy false equivalence you want to come up with.

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The school shooter simulation example seemed like a more obvious one since people were pretending that the issue here was swearing and not discrimination.
My point was that why is "people enjoy it" enough of an argument to justify the existence of something offensive? I'm sure you can see the issue here.
Also, I have not once said they should change anything, mind you. I said, from the very beginning, that these slurs and their past of problematic tweets draw a nice picture of who they are as a company and, for that, I'm not supporting this game at all. When people got defensive, I merely stated why it was not okay to have these words in the context they are being presented. People, however, seemed to place a great deal of importance in having discriminatory slurs in their games.
In any case, this is an internet forum with the sole purpose of discussing different subjects, so here I am saying why I think they are a shit show of a company that low-key like to please your usual GG crowd with too big a defence force to be held accountable for what they do.

 

[Kinthey]

I think the intent matters more than a literal definition for a word like cocksucker. It's most often used in a generic way.

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In this case it's even used as an adjective that doesn't address a person.

 

[Theory]

I mean, people use that's so gay as an insult without actually meaning you are gay, but it's still homophobic.

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I respectfully disagree and you are completely entitled to your own opinion of course, but i imagine the vast majority of people wouldn't agree with you - bottom line though, this sort-of labeling or classifying language that is happening more and more nowadays, is terrifying. I wish everyone would just be kind to one another but... this? yeesh.

 

[El_Chino]

Me personally, yes.

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Hard to find and buy products from a corporate company that doesn't have its hands dirty.

 

[Deleted member 18944]

I respectfully disagree and you are completely entitled to your own opinion of course, but i imagine the vast majority of people wouldn't agree with you - bottom line though, this sort-of labeling or classifying language that is happening more and more nowadays, is terrifying. I wish everyone would just be kind to one another but... this? yeesh.

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Connect the dots with me here.

When people call something gay, they are using it as synonym of sorts for stupid. Then they just continuously associate things they don't like and think are stupid with the word gay, and then it comes to a point where you have to ask the question - What do you actually think of gay people?

I think analyzing speech is a great way to be more mindful. Today I learned cock sucker is a slur to some people. Do I personally believe it is? No. But do I now know that some people do find it problematic? Yep.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Hard to find and buy products from a corporate company that doesn't have its hands dirty.

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Yeah and? No one buys an electric car because they're certain that that action is the dividing line between environmental health and global destruction. No one contributes to ethical porn because they think one purchase is the end of exploitation. Exercise and healthy eating won't let you cheat death. No one becomes a vegetarian because they think they're the last bastion of animal abuse and slaughter. And I don't do this expecting to change everything or believing I can always give my money to the most progressive companies. Yes it's true that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. I know I can't change everything but that's not actually the point. The point is simply to change little things when and where I can. Whether it's "useless" or "insignificant" is secondary to the fact that if I want things to change at all, I have to actually be active despite how little my actions might matter.

 

[Deleted member 888]

Connect the dots with me here.

When people call something gay, they are using it as synonym of sorts for stupid. Then they just continuously associate things they don't like and think are stupid with the word gay, and then it comes to a point where you have to ask the question - What do you actually think of gay people?

I think analyzing speech is a great way to be more mindful. Today I learned cock sucker is a slur to some people. Do I personally believe it is? No. But do I now know that some people do find it problematic? Yep.

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But the word gay isn't inherently slang nor is it a swear word. It's the correct terminology to refer to someone's sexual identity. So taking it and trying to repurpose it as slang/swearing/insulting ends in more universal bad taste and a far lesser chance of anyone asking for your intent to see if its in good faith. While for a brief moment in history some people tried to say, saying "gay" just meant something sucked or was stupid, it was drowned out far more by being used as a way to mock someone's identity.

Cunt or cock, or even dick, are not the "correct terminology". Penis and vagina are. Hence why there is far more scope for cock, cunt or dick on their own or as supplementary words being used to swear, joke, piss take and so on. While people have and still do use words like these, cunt especially, to be derogatory, there has been such widespread use of these words in other contextual ways, they have caught on, and they aren't seen like people simply trying to repurpose the word gay to say their boss is an asshole. "My boss is such a gay" is going to cause most to think you're mocking him for being gay. "My boss is such a cunt" and enough people if they know you and can decipher your intent, are going to think your boss is an asshole.

To ignore context and intent around most swear words or swearing terminology, is to ignorantly ignore and/or downplay the evolution of language. Hence why topics like this usually take on their own form when you get people making blanket statements around such words like cock or cunt. No one will, or at least I won't suggest you have to like the words, but it's just not good to ignore reality irrespective of your own lived experiences. Which may well hurt, I don't doubt it, but especially when it comes to make-believe media, it cannot all be sculpted to be 100% suitable for you if your view of the world is going to be so rigid/simplistic.

 

[Kyuuji]

I'll buy it preowned and give it to a friend when I'm done.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Yeah and? No one buys an electric car because they're certain that that action is the dividing line between environmental health and global destruction. No one contributes to ethical porn because they think one purchase is the end of exploitation. Exercise and healthy eating won't let you cheat death. No one becomes a vegetarian because they think they're the last bastion of animal abuse and slaughter. And I don't do this expecting to change everything or believing I can always give my money to the most progressive companies. Yes it's true that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. I know I can't change everything but that's not actually the point. The point is simply to change little things when and where I can. Whether it's "useless" or "insignificant" is secondary to the fact that if I want things to change at all, I have to actually be active despite how little my actions might matter.

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Wait...ethical porn? This is a real thing?

 

[Concelhaut]

I'll buy it preowned and give it to a friend when I'm done.

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This still makes me cringe

 

[Deleted member 888]

Wait...ethical porn? This is a real thing?

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If online, probably paying money directly to cam girls (or guys)/actual amateurs rather than the massive corporations that own all of porn. Or I guess using legal brothels where workers have protections/security/rights.

The porn industry, as a behemoth entity, has its baggage, corruption and issues ahoy. So the above are my best guesses at what "ethical porn" would allude to.

They still swear a lot in amateur porn though 😢

 

[RedMercury]

And that poster as far as I gathered, was talking about the use of swearing in something like Deadwood and asking why is it all that much different than in Cyberpunk?

Their social media kerfuffle is a separate wrong.

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You're right, I read that wrong and took it in a different direction, apologies

 

[Theory]

Connect the dots with me here.

When people call something gay, they are using it as synonym of sorts for stupid. Then they just continuously associate things they don't like and think are stupid with the word gay, and then it comes to a point where you have to ask the question - What do you actually think of gay people?

I think analyzing speech is a great way to be more mindful. Today I learned cock sucker is a slur to some people. Do I personally believe it is? No. But do I now know that some people do find it problematic? Yep.

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Well, lets not pretend that the larger conversation around analyzing speech in society right now isn't much more complicated than simply "being a great way to becoming more mindful." Can analyzing speech be beneficial in a lot of ways, not the least of which being for the purpose of being kinder and more supportive of others? Sure!

Did i learn cock sucker is a slur to some people today? Yep. Do i personally believe it is ? No. Having learned that some people find it problematic, what now? Well, i wouldn't call someone that, especially if i knew they found it to be a legitimate slur... But do i believe the word should be censored in any way from say, a videogame? No.

 

[Aftermath]

I don't know if there is lgbtq representation in Cyberpunk 2077 for certain there should be.

But there is in Watchdogs 3 in the first ever trailer so that's a good start.

Buy Watch_Dogs 3 if you are looking to play as characters of many different races and different sexual orientations in a Cyberpunk game, not only that but they all have their own Back stories & Origins playthrough, WD3 sounds ambitious as fuck.

 

[Roygbiv95]

I can't get behind some of the dumb shit they tweeted, but I'm a sucker for amazing games so I'll definitely buy Cyberpunk.

Also the reality is that the creative industry is designed to require collaboration. However, good talent is hard to find and as we are well aware of now sometimes jerks end up with that talent. That's life. Most of our favorite art had at least a few assholes associated with it. Your team is only as good as your weakest link, though, so if the product of that the team's collaboration looks dope it follows that most of the artists making it were cool since the ideas which the team as a whole love the most tend to usually get implemented. Ultimately you can buy the game, movie, album, etc you love to support the artists who aren't assholes that worked on it, not the few who are.

 

[Kurt117]

Dont buy their game you guys.
it is very clear that absolutely ALL of those who work at cd projekt are misogynistic, homophobic and just overall evil human beings.
its so obvious and observable from behind our monitors how shitty cdprojekt is.
do not support their oppression unless every single cd projekt employee publishes an apology essay. all playable characters should be mandatorily gender fluid, mentally deficient and a person of color.
I as a humanist can not support Cyberpunk 2077 as it is and neither should you.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Dont buy their game you guys.
it is very clear that absolutely ALL of those who work at cd projekt are misogynistic, homophobic and just overall evil human beings.
its so obvious and observable from behind our monitors how shitty cdprojekt is.
do not support their oppression unless every single cd projekt employee publishes an apology essay. all playable characters should be mandatorily gender fluid, mentally deficient and a person of color.
I as a humanist can not support Cyberpunk 2077 as it is and neither should you.

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No one claimed that there are no progressive people at CDPR so framing it that way means you're being disingenuous and not actually listening to what people are saying and what they are trying to accomplish by talking about and boycotting the game. You're making up something to get mad at that doesn't actually exist.

People decided not to purchase Fallout 76 because it was broken and messy at launch. People bounced off of their hype for EA's Battlefront because of its exploitative business practices. Would you characterize their actions this way when not everyone behind those games was interested in selling a faulty product/nickel and diming their consumers? Obviously there are people at both companies earnestly trying to make good games but just because they exist doesn't automatically mean they are entitled to your money.

Wait...ethical porn? This is a real thing?

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Yes. Audioboxer was on point with some of it but here's a bigger breakdown. There's none at the article site itself but obviously there are links in the article to sites with nudity and pornography:

All you have to do is watch a few minutes of mainstream porn, to realize that plenty of it is really demeaning and degrading toward women. And it's not just in front of the camera that these things play out; behind the camera, countless allegations have surfaced about unethical behavior, including claims of sexual assault on porn sets. Because it's a male-dominated field, it can be hard to find pornography that's both ethical and appeals to women's desires. But that's where feminist pornographer Erika Lust comes along.

When Lust launched her crowdsourced project, XConfessions, in 2013 she had a vision to offer an alternative to the porn that was already out there by offering sex-positive erotic films that, unlike so much mainstream porn, actually focused on female pleasure. And, of course, she wanted to do it ethically.

"The concept of ethical as it relates to adult content production is complex," Lust tells Bustle. "It's important to say there is not yet a consensus about what exactly it is, but in simple terms, ethical porn cares about the performer's welfare. It is adult cinema where consent has been given for every part of the film from all parties involved. This means consent regarding the sexual acts being performed, but also the rate of pay they are receiving. Personal limits and boundaries are respected and the performer can stop shooting at any moment if they feel uncomfortable. Everything is done under a safe sex environment, good working and safety conditions, and labor rights for performers and crew. It goes down to the basics like providing meals on set and having anything they need provided. This environment emphasizes safety and mutual respect."

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[Love Machine]

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This doesn't really work, because putting a plaster on implies that whatever's underneath will heal by itself.

I'm extremely excited for CP2077, but I won't deny that their CDPR's social interactions have given me pause over the last couple of years.
Hope they can get their act together, or just stay out of the public eye if it's really that hard for them.

 

[Ashlette]

Dont buy their game you guys.
it is very clear that absolutely ALL of those who work at cd projekt are misogynistic, homophobic and just overall evil human beings.
its so obvious and observable from behind our monitors how shitty cdprojekt is.
do not support their oppression unless every single cd projekt employee publishes an apology essay. all playable characters should be mandatorily gender fluid, mentally deficient and a person of color.
I as a humanist can not support Cyberpunk 2077 as it is and neither should you.

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Is this seriously your take on the legitimate concerns presented in this thread? How embarrassing.

 

[Bluelote]

the awful PR person was fired and replaced by someone who don't seem to share or expose those views,
the use of "cocksucker", it's kind of dumb, but I think that's their solution for finding a "lighter" but still common "insult"

also there are a lot of shitty people involved in many products/projects, we just don't know about most of them I guess, I don't think the message or anything else in cyberpunk 2077 goes in this direction, so I don't think there is enough to boycott it or anything of the sort,

 

[Deleted member 28131]

I cant believe people would skip out on a game because of a twitter status from years ago or the word "cocksucker". Crazy. How do you handle other people irl?

 

[Deleted member 41638]

I'm not going to punish hundreds of developers, writers, actors, musicians, designers, etc. for a couple shitty PR guys and bad bosses. This game is so much bigger than a Twitter account

 

[Kyuuji]

I cant believe people would skip out on a game because of a twitter status from years ago or the word "cocksucker". Crazy. How do you handle other people irl?

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Why is it hard to believe that people would skip a game because the company has put out transphobic tweets and messaging?

Do you post this "how do you handle other people" nonsense when people skip games because of frame-rate dips, anti-consumer actions, lootboxes or more?

How do you handle people IRL if you can't handle people making informed purchasing decisions without acting like the sky is falling or it being some out of reach concept.

 

[Deleted member 48897]

I cant believe people would skip out on a game because of a twitter status from years ago or the word "cocksucker". Crazy. How do you handle other people irl?

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There are a ton of fucking games coming out every day, for one thing

 

[Deleted member 28131]

Why is it hard to believe that people would skip a game because the company has put out transphobic tweets and messaging?

Do you post this "how do you handle other people" nonsense when people skip games because of frame-rate dips, anti-consumer actions, lootboxes or more?

How do you handle people IRL if you can't handle people making informed purchasing decisions without acting like the sky is falling or it being some out of reach concept.

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When you buy groceries do you stop and question every single employee's background and make sure they've never ever said some dumb shit? Oh no, better go buy my milk elsewhere cause 1 of the 50 people who work here are homophobic assholes online.

Absurd.

 

[Kyuuji]

I'm not going to punish hundreds of developers, writers, actors, musicians, designers, etc. for a couple shitty PR guys and bad bosses. This game is so much bigger than a Twitter account

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This is such a shitty reduction. If you want to support the game for the artists and developers there kudos to you but don't water down the actions and responses of a company down to "a twitter account".

You're seeking to absolve the wider - literally made up - corporate entity from their harmful actions. The Twitter account didn't decide how the company at large would handle criticism, nor did it decide how the company would react to discovering that it itself had put out transphobic messaging.

Again, if you want to support the game as a nod to everyone not-shitty that worked on it that's cool and you do you. Just don't water this down as being an issue about "one twitter account". Corporations take responsibility for the poor actions of employees, and they're held accountable to that all time - as they should be.

What they're actually metered against the majority of the time is their reaction and procativeness in not only making amends, but also ensuring incidents like that don't occur again. So when they do, and when that reaction, impetus procativeness really isn't there then I think it's more than alright to levy blame at the company, be critical of it and - if these issues have affected you or are important to you - just giving it a pass.

 

[Kyuuji]

When you buy groceries do you stop and question every single employee's background and make sure they've never ever said some dumb shit? Oh no, better go buy my milk elsewhere cause 1 of the 50 people who work here are homophobic assholes online.

Absurd.

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If I'm in the grocery store and an employee throws out a transphobic remark, to which then management barely lift a finger to rectify the circumstance, then yeh I might just leave and buy the milk from one of the any stores out there.

What's the issue again? What's so absurd again about making a purchasing decision around the actions of a company and their dealing with troubling actions from employees.

There isn't. It's the most vanilla thing in the world. Not purchasing a video game because of a myriad of things is a pretty normal thing yet here you are getting bent out of shape about it.

So again, how do you handle people IRL when you can't handle reading posts on a forum about people choosing to just not buy a certain entertainment product.

 

[Orwell]

When you buy groceries do you stop and question every single employee's background and make sure they've never ever said some dumb shit? Oh no, better go buy my milk elsewhere cause 1 of the 50 people who work here are homophobic assholes online.

Absurd.

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How many times must people keep trotting out this hilariously reductive line of thought?

 

[EdibleKnife]

When you buy groceries do you stop and question every single employee's background and make sure they've never ever said some dumb shit? Oh no, better go buy my milk elsewhere cause 1 of the 50 people who work here are homophobic assholes online.

Absurd.

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As posted above, this isn't about making judgements about everyone at a company. CDPR has a public face. It has an attitude it puts out there and uses to interact with their customers and fans. And that attitude seems to give and impression of a flippancy toward LGBTQ+ people. They can change that attitude and if they choose not to, people who don't like that public face are free to not buy their game. Again, you yourself and many on this board have probably not bought a game you were interested because of microtransactions, or bugs/glitches, or general crappy design and don't read that same script to yourself. You wouldn't call it absurd if people skip Anthem because of the interference of executives when even in that situation there are people at EA and Bioware weren't working with an intent of screwing over consumers but simply making a good game. If this is what people care about their free to make their own choices about it and not be treated like they're over reacting.

 

[Anustart]

As posted above, this isn't about making judgements about everyone at a company. CDPR has a public face. It has an attitude it puts out there and that attitude seems to bely a fillpancy toward LGBTQ+ people. They can change that attitude and if they choose not to, people who don't like that public face are free to not buy their game. Again, you yourself and many on this board have probably not bought a game you were interested because of microtransactions, or bugs/glitches, or general crappy design and don't read that same script to yourself. If this is what people care about their free to make their own choices about it and not be treated like they're over reacting.

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All of those deal with the product itself and not a random community manager for a huge company that doesn't run every tweet by the CEO before posting.

Be mad at the person who made the tweet. Boycott that person.

 

[KamenRiderEra]

To those on the fence, just wait for reviews..... Obviously that in a game with these themes, and so much branching stories, the true bias of CD Projekt Red will surface.... If it is bigotry, it will be called out. Like many have said, the slurs and depictions of some npcs showed in trailers are alarming, but lets wait for the full game....

 

[Kyuuji]

All of those deal with the product itself and not a random community manager for a huge company that doesn't run every tweet by the CEO before posting.

Be mad at the person who made the tweet. Boycott that person.

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This is such a poor reduction. If you want to support the game for the artists and developers there kudos to you but don't water down the actions and responses of a company down to "a twitter account".

You're seeking to absolve the wider - literally made up - corporate entity from their harmful actions. The Twitter account didn't decide how the company at large would handle criticism, nor did it decide how the company would react to discovering that it itself had put out transphobic messaging.

Again, if you want to support the game as a nod to everyone not-shitty that worked on it that's cool and you do you. Just don't water this down as being an issue about "one twitter account". Corporations take responsibility for the poor actions of employees, and they're held accountable to that all time - as they should be.

What they're actually metered against the majority of the time is their reaction and procativeness in not only making amends, but also ensuring incidents like that don't occur again. So when they do, and when that reaction, impetus and procativeness really isn't there then I think it's more than alright to levy blame at the company, be critical of it and - if these issues have affected you or are important to you - just giving it a pass.

 

[EdibleKnife]

All of those deal with the product itself and not a random community manager for a huge company that doesn't run every tweet by the CEO before posting.

Be mad at the person who made the tweet. Boycott that person.

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And? That distinction doesn't matter when I just said that this is about how the company interacts with the fans. I know it's the fault of a few people but like I said the people in charge in general of putting people at those positions of community interactions are culpable as well. CDPR has a way it wants to be viewed and a position it wants to have in the mind of gamers. They can choose what kind of face they want to put out there and if they choose just to put random people in those positions and not stress to their marketing employees about their interest in being inclusive and not alienating LGBTQ+ fans then suddenly it's not just about one person but the corporate environment their born from. No one ever claimed that it wasn't just a few tweets from a few people. The issue is the pattern that shows what the priorities are for the company.

 

[Anustart]

It's expected but should it really be that way? Do you make a list of everyone that one of your relatives has wronged and go personally apologize?

The group mentality is that corporations should apologize for the actions of an employee because that's what consumers expect.

But me? If someone I know does something stupid I'm not apologizing for them. No one is perfect and companies are made of people. Dumb decisions are going to be made every day.

I don't expect companies to apologize or own up to individual mistakes because that's unfair to the countless others who didn't fuck up.

The person who fucked up should be looking to make amends. Pretty fucking cowardly to say "blame my employer, they didn't apologize for my actions!"

 

[MXT]

All of those deal with the product itself and not a random community manager for a huge company that doesn't run every tweet by the CEO before posting.

Be mad at the person who made the tweet. Boycott that person.

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No. CDPR/GOG have a long history of shitty transphobic garbage. I hold them responsible for those that they hire.

 

[Punjabi_Hitman]

I cant believe people would skip out on a game because of a twitter status from years ago or the word "cocksucker". Crazy. How do you handle other people irl?

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Why are you so butt hurt over people choosing not to buy a game? Are you a stock holder or something?

 

[EdibleKnife]

It's expected but should it really be that way? Do you make a list of everyone that one of your relatives has wronged and go personally apologize?

The group mentality is that corporations should apologize for the actions of an employee because that's what consumers expect.

But me? If someone I know does something stupid I'm not apologizing for them. No one is perfect and companies are made of people. Dumb decisions are going to be made every day.

I don't expect companies to apologize or own up to individual mistakes because that's unfair to the countless others who didn't fuck up.

The person who fucked up should be looking to make amends. Pretty fucking cowardly to say "blame my employer, they didn't apologize for my actions!"

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I don't pay my relatives for content that they produce. I give my money to these companies. I support them with what I earn for things I like and deny them for things I don't like. They court consumers not the other way around and just because people work at video game companies doesn't mean they're automatically entitled to my money. These aren't just random personal interactions.

 

[Kyuuji]

It's expected but should it really be that way? Do you make a list of everyone that one of your relatives has wronged and go personally apologize?

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What ass-backwards reach is this?

I don't expect companies to apologize or own up to individual mistakes because that's unfair to the countless others who didn't fuck up.

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That's cute but an overly simplistic and, frankly, childlike view of business.

The person who fucked up should be looking to make amends. Pretty fucking cowardly to say "blame my employer, they didn't apologize for my actions!"

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Yeh, this ain't it chief.

 

[Anustart]

No. CDPR/GOG have a long history of shitty transphobic garbage. I hold them responsible for those that they hire.

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Long history = 3 posts on a message board by 2 people? Yes I called Twitter a message board.

If I get shit service at Denny's because some waitor getting paid shit wages treated me like an assholes I don't blame Denny's, I blame that person.

 

[NTGYK]

Speak with your dollars and don't buy it and support other games if your political values are worth more than your entertainment.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Long history = 3 posts on a message board by 2 people? Yes I called Twitter a message board.

If I get shit service at Denny's because some waitor getting paid shit wages treated me like an assholes I don't blame Denny's, I blame that person.

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And if Denny's continues to hire shitty waiters who provide shitty service then it's a conscious pattern that the company isn't working to improve. It's the same way with CDPR.

 

[MXT]

Long history = 3 posts on a message board by 2 people? Yes I called Twitter a message board.

If I get shit service at Denny's because some waitor getting paid shit wages treated me like an assholes I don't blame Denny's, I blame that person.

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If Denny were to knowingly employs, say, a white supremacist, I would blame Denny's.

CDPR/GOG knowingly employed a GamerGator. They did not fire said Gator after their first (of many, not just two) bad tweet. Or their second. Or their third. Most of the bad tweets the person made were from the GOG account, so they didn't get as much mainstream attention. Maybe you missed them, but they happened.

 

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Why is tired look at cyberpunk next to transphobia and terrible working conditions? lol