Even if you don't plan to feed your guest, you should make sure they have a plan so they don't keep fasting
When I was in middle school, I slept over at a friend's house and the next morning they invited me to brunch with them and when the bill came the father asked me for to pay for my portion of the meal.
OK, thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills when dude lumped in Italians as 'non-white'. Just because they were treated poorly as immigrants in America - same as Irish - doesn't magically make them non-white.I'm half-Italian, and Italy is overwhelmingly white. Demographic statistics put it at 92% white; Sweden doesn't publish official ethnic demographics, but unofficial ones put it at 94% white. The cultural differences between Italy and Sweden are not related to their nearly-identical whiteness.
Pullin' our some 1900s, turn-of-the-century racism.OK, thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills when dude lumped in Italians as 'non-white'. Just because they were treated poorly as immigrants in America - same as Irish - doesn't magically make them non-white.
As a Swede, I remember it being quite common to not get offered food when I visited a friend around dinner. Unless it was a sleepover, then I would obviously be invited. It would almost be considered rude to feed someone else's kid, and it would probably be a hassle. I was at someone's house almost every day. But that was at the age where I mostly played with kids that were just a bike ride away from home, and we actually played so they'd hang out in my room playing Amiga or whatever.
At some point, probably around 15-16 when I started mostly seeing a select group of friends, we'd start to be invited. By then I tended to hang out with people in the next town and be picked up later in the evening so it was natural.
I'm Swedish, can confirm it has happened a quite a few times as a kid. Especially when at a new friends place where I've never met the parents. I was a kid in the 90s so don't know how it is now.
Netherlands, like I said the examples are extreme but I definitely don't think the culture is there for having guests over for dinner the same way other cultures do.
I feel for you Swedes 😭 I'll make sure if I invite any Swedes and Nords, make sure their bellies being fed.This mirrors my experience as a Finn almost perfectly. I don't remember ever being asked to join for dinner as a child. I would just usually go to my own home for dinner.
Yeah, I'm as WASPy as they come and this is a weird thing to me.Pullin' our some 1900s, turn-of-the-century racism.
I will even go so far as to say a lot, if not most, people in the US would cater to the guest's dietary needs if they're over during mealtime (assuming there is a heads up).
My goal as a parent is to make food that makes my daughter's future friends go home to their parents and ask them why they don't cook like me.
There's a difference between that and intentionally leaving people in another room though. If people are present, they'll be invited to eat with. If they don't want you to eat with, they'll either ask you to leave beforehand or simply invite you out of 'normal' eating periods. When you get asked over, there'll definitely be at least snacks or drinks or whatever. Normally, of course.
The behavior described in the OP is undoutebly frowned upon by most people here.
Iono fam. I wouldn't say it's a white thing. You would get disowned in the South here in the US. Regardless of race.It wasn't a riddle. Those places have an overwhelmingly large white population. I have been at Mexican, Black, Asian, Italian households, and most things in between, and they would have all been appalled at not offering food to a guest, whether they were a surprise or not.
I just discussed this with a lot of my family, and the answer was, if you didn't make enough food for expecting guests, then you all eat less, and scrounge up after if anyone is still hungry. Make it work, is what I keep hearing. Unless you absolutely can't afford it, you do it.
I have had a similar experience at a white household with being rude and expecting me as a child to not eat after staying the night, but I'm glad to hear the Netherlands isn't all like this.
"It's just food"
What culture is this? Food is pretty much culture for a lot! It's usually the first way people experience different cultures.
Is this actually a cultural thing or just a stingy scrooge thing?
I've had cheap ass friends who bitch because we split the cost of a pizza and they complained "my slices had more pepperoni's or my slices were bigger"…. Fucking Christ what a pathetic way to live. Last time I split a pizza with them.
I still remember counting the fucking pepperonis on each slice and giving them some to make it equal. Needless to say the pizza was cold and fucking a mess by the end of it, as half the cheese came off with the pepperoni.
Huh? Who is aggressive? Are you really using the "y u so mad bro lol" bit in a chill discussion?I didn't say no one is allowed to eat at my house, you need to re-read and kill some of that aggression and assumption lol.
I still find that super rude, but maybe it's just a cultural difference. I would say don't invite a guest over if you plan to eat without them, it's offensive where I'm from. Almost like you're wasting the guest's time/evening.If you're hungry at someone else's house and they haven't invited you to dinner, it's a problem easily solved by, you know, communicating the fact that you're hungry.
never had that happen but I've turned down the whole dinner table thing and would hang back in my friends room or whatever.
Yup, in my experience, regardless of race, religion or creed, this is how it is. Make it work.
Don't lump white people like that.
Vast majority of us would be bewildered by this shit.
all my white friends family fed me well. you just have shit luck or some myopic views.
I'm half-Italian, and Italy is overwhelmingly white. Demographic statistics put it at 92% white; Sweden doesn't publish official ethnic demographics, but unofficial ones put it at 94% white. The cultural differences between Italy and Sweden are not related to their nearly-identical whiteness.
Is this actually a cultural thing or just a stingy scrooge thing?
I've had cheap ass friends who bitch because we split the cost of a pizza and they complained "my slices had more pepperoni's or my slices were bigger"…. Fucking Christ what a pathetic way to live. Last time I split a pizza with them.
I still remember counting the fucking pepperonis on each slice and giving them some to make it equal. Needless to say the pizza was cold and fucking a mess by the end of it, as half the cheese came off with the pepperoni.
I am so confused here. Italians aren't white? And why would Dutch and Swedes automatically have similar culture because of the skin colour? Would you think the same of let's say Serbs?It wasn't a riddle. Those places have an overwhelmingly large white population. I have been at Mexican, Black, Asian, Italian households, and most things in between, and they would have all been appalled at not offering food to a guest, whether they were a surprise or not.
I just discussed this with a lot of my family, and the answer was, if you didn't make enough food for expecting guests, then you all eat less, and scrounge up after if anyone is still hungry. Make it work, is what I keep hearing. Unless you absolutely can't afford it, you do it.
I have had a similar experience at a white household with being rude and expecting me as a child to not eat after staying the night, but I'm glad to hear the Netherlands isn't all like this.
Ooph! LOL
Where I come from the only thing just as bad as not offering hospitality is refusing it.
I've been the kid multiple times over at a friends place for dinner thinking, omg this looks so nasty...Yes ma'am! This all looks so wonderful, thank you so much!
Yeah, if you stayed till dinner time, it was time for you to go to your own home.I disagree, while the examples in the OP are extreme I do think at least where I grew up the idea that dinner was not something to be shared with people outside of your family was pretty commonplace.
This is me but I had to refuse tuna fish with pickles since it made me gag. Gagging and spitting out food in the sink is very rude as it turns out.Ooph! LOL
Where I come from the only thing just as bad as not offering hospitality is refusing it.
I've been the kid multiple times over at a friends place for dinner thinking, omg this looks so nasty...Yes ma'am! This all looks so wonderful, thank you so much!