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Brandson

Brandson

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Oct 26, 2017
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artsi said:
Are you saying blockchain project on a national level is insignificant, or that they are somehow untrustworthy because they keep investors informed on a regular basis in between big partnership news?

The other side seems to be as excited about it.



Sunny Lu is an experienced businessman and his job on the project is to go around the world gathering partnerships and tie connections, so that's what he tweets about.
The project managers and people working on technical aspects are doing just that.
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Most "partnerships" that occur in this space are traditionally grossly overstated. Announcing a discussion about a potential partnership is meaningless at best, and an attempt at market manipulation at worst. We have seen this many times with many crypto assets. In my experience, people involved with a project talking up nothing into something tends to end badly for small investors. If the third party itself starts making announcements, then that is more credible. Feel free to disagree. I remain skeptical. I don't hold any VEN.
 
CoolOff

CoolOff

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Oct 26, 2017
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Brandson said:
Most "partnerships" that occur in this space are traditionally grossly overstated. Announcing a discussion about a potential partnership is meaningless at best, and an attempt at market manipulation at worst. We have seen this many times with many crypto assets. In my experience, people involved with a project talking up nothing into something tends to end badly for small investors. If the third party itself starts making announcements, then that is more credible. Feel free to disagree. I remain skeptical. I don't hold any VEN.
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I mean, this is a valid argument to make, but I feel like VEN isn't the best example for getting your point across. Just two weeks ago DNV held an hour long live-stream going over their ambitions in collaborating with Vechain:

https://www.facebook.com/dnvgl/videos/10156181778853395/

And there's been several other third parties involved with them who themselves announced it through official channels.
 
Zip

Zip

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Oct 28, 2017
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Lots of better examples of meaningless partnerships than VEN. VEN is one of the few that is making significant inroads and has partners that are excited to work with them.
 
commish

commish

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Brandson said:
Most "partnerships" that occur in this space are traditionally grossly overstated. Announcing a discussion about a potential partnership is meaningless at best, and an attempt at market manipulation at worst. We have seen this many times with many crypto assets. In my experience, people involved with a project talking up nothing into something tends to end badly for small investors. If the third party itself starts making announcements, then that is more credible. Feel free to disagree. I remain skeptical. I don't hold any VEN.
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My favorite crypto "partnership" is the Flash/FTI partnership. First, it's not a partnership because they only signed an LOI, and, as anyone who has actually done deals before, an LOI is near meaningless. Second, FTI is a freaking small vegetarian food company. Hilarious.
 
artsi

artsi

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Brandson said:
Most "partnerships" that occur in this space are traditionally grossly overstated. Announcing a discussion about a potential partnership is meaningless at best, and an attempt at market manipulation at worst. We have seen this many times with many crypto assets. In my experience, people involved with a project talking up nothing into something tends to end badly for small investors. If the third party itself starts making announcements, then that is more credible. Feel free to disagree. I remain skeptical. I don't hold any VEN.
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I don't disagree, point is totally valid but that doesn't really concern VEN in my opinion.

Regarding bolded, for example their most influential strategic partnerships so far have been PwC, DVN GL and Breyer Capital and the partnership announcements have always been mutual.

https://www.pwccn.com/en/press-room/press-releases/pr-150517.html
https://medium.com/@jimbreyer/announcing-our-vechain-advisory-role-5e37b7722978
https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-p...rency-from-the-factory-to-the-consumer-110284

PwC official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qfCTtLLGr8
DVN GL official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS-fdXnubeI
 
CoolOff

CoolOff

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Oct 26, 2017
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LyleLanley said:
The discord is the greatest thing in the crypto world. I can't imagine my life without it.
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Truth. Ever since taking out my principal investment I'm only in crypto for the memes.

I buy everything right after Kyuuji takes a position in it.

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Brandson

Brandson

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artsi said:
I don't disagree, point is totally valid but that doesn't really concern VEN in my opinion.

Regarding bolded, for example their most influential strategic partnerships so far have been PwC, DVN GL and Breyer Capital and the partnership announcements have always been mutual.

https://www.pwccn.com/en/press-room/press-releases/pr-150517.html
https://medium.com/@jimbreyer/announcing-our-vechain-advisory-role-5e37b7722978
https://www.dnvgl.com/news/dnv-gl-p...rency-from-the-factory-to-the-consumer-110284

PwC official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qfCTtLLGr8
DVN GL official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS-fdXnubeI
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I would still maintain some skepticism over what those partnerships really mean for the average investor.
 
Brandson

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A few big picture thoughts on Bitcoin:

1) it continues to not dump, despite being presented wonderful opportunities to do so;

2) BTCUSD has completed a bullish cross of 1W StochRSI, which, despite the small sample size, has traditionally been a reliable positive growth indicator when occurring around this time of year;

3) BTCUSD has now broken up from the 1D RSI downtrend I have been talking about for a while, which has been an unbroken trend since December 5, 2017;

4) BTCUSD is close to a bullish cross of its 1D MACD too.

My personal view on the chart formation given all of the above, is that BTC will break the downtrend soon, and start trending up again. It may be gradual, or sharp, or may even dip a bit more from here along the way, but overall it looks positive to me going forward.
 

mashoutposse

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Oct 29, 2017
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I've done significant tech biz dev in my day. Partnerships where significant money does not directly move between parties on a regular basis generally range from 'low priority' to 'BS'.
 
Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
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Brandson said:
A few big picture thoughts on Bitcoin:

1) it continues to not dump, despite being presented wonderful opportunities to do so;

2) BTCUSD has completed a bullish cross of 1W StochRSI, which, despite the small sample size, has traditionally been a reliable positive growth indicator when occurring around this time of year;

3) BTCUSD has now broken up from the 1D RSI downtrend I have been talking about for a while, which has been an unbroken trend since December 5, 2017;

4) BTCUSD is close to a bullish cross of its 1D MACD too.

My personal view on the chart formation given all of the above, is that BTC will break the downtrend soon, and start trending up again. It may be gradual, or sharp, or may even dip a bit more from here along the way, but overall it looks positive to me going forward.
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Well, I'm convinced. Time to buy back in. Maybe after the next dip.
 
burnfout

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Brandson said:
A few big picture thoughts on Bitcoin:

1) it continues to not dump, despite being presented wonderful opportunities to do so;

2) BTCUSD has completed a bullish cross of 1W StochRSI, which, despite the small sample size, has traditionally been a reliable positive growth indicator when occurring around this time of year;

3) BTCUSD has now broken up from the 1D RSI downtrend I have been talking about for a while, which has been an unbroken trend since December 5, 2017;

4) BTCUSD is close to a bullish cross of its 1D MACD too.

My personal view on the chart formation given all of the above, is that BTC will break the downtrend soon, and start trending up again. It may be gradual, or sharp, or may even dip a bit more from here along the way, but overall it looks positive to me going forward.
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Hope you are right, I've been in a world of hurt since buying in in January :(
 
isual

isual

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Oct 27, 2017
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this stuff is dangerous but fun. with 1k invested you can make a good turn around, but super dangerous.

i don't trust binance because its in china and for some reason it could or maybe be gone anytime.

i still don't trust coinbase/gdax, but its the only way i can play around with this crypto stuff since its here in the USA. its super volatile, but if you can make a lot of shekels, its really fun. don't invest anything you are not willing to lose. 1k is a lot for me, but i've already got a 100 dollar profit. not bad for someone starting out just last week.
 
jahepi

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isual said:
this stuff is dangerous but fun. with 1k invested you can make a good turn around, but super dangerous.

i don't trust binance because its in china and for some reason it could or maybe be gone anytime.

i still don't trust coinbase/gdax, but its the only way i can play around with this crypto stuff since its here in the USA. its super volatile, but if you can make a lot of shekels, its really fun. don't invest anything you are not willing to lose. 1k is a lot for me, but i've already got a 100 dollar profit. not bad for someone starting out just last week.
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If you are holding, move your coins to your own wallet asap.
 
Ryu

Ryu

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Oct 25, 2017
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One more week until the rebrand of LISK. Even if you don't hold any, i hope you all will try to watch it. Not many events in cryptospace get that big.
 
Brandson

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This feels a lot like those days stuck around $220 ETH at the tail end of the June/July correction. It took about 20 days of action around $220, including another smaller dip halfway through, before it was ready to head back to $300.
 
Skittles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Brandson said:
This feels a lot like those days stuck around $220 ETH at the tail end of the June/July correction. It took about 20 days of action around $220, including another smaller dip halfway through, before it was ready to head back to $300.
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I'd be fine with sideways movement for a few weeks. Far better than the volatility we've been facing
 
crontabulation

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ryu said:
One more week until the rebrand of LISK. Even if you don't hold any, i hope you all will try to watch it. Not many events in cryptospace get that big.
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Really interested to see what the rebrand looks like. Seems like there is a lot of interest, the price is starting to rise in the last week, kind of reminds me of how ECC creeped up and up before their new website launched. Even though for ECC that was the peak, If the rebrand goes well I expect the price of LISK to shoot up.
 
Donos

Donos

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Nov 15, 2017
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Well a: there is always something coming up, be it regulations/hacks/FUD or whatever and b: situation around Tether / Bitfinex is still unresolved. If the investigations end with "they are clean and all is backed up with hard cash" then the market will surge like dec/jan but if not and there is proof that Bitfinex/ Tether pushed the market on several occasion, then i expect another downhill ride.

Don't get me wrong, would rather take a surge but i will be ready to shop some cheap coins the next time it crashes again. These tasty prices last time were hard to see without the possibility of getting some myself. Wont touch my main stack though, no matter how low it goes, so i need fresh fiat to buy.
 
artsi

artsi

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Oct 26, 2017
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VeChain hardware sneak peek.

https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-tech-sneak-preview-8834d5dde843

After introducing our CTO, Gu Jianliang, we announced that we would do a series of hardware related releases. We felt it's appropriate to show off some of the demonstration technology we had on site at our Shanghai office which includes the temperature-sensitive RFID's on our NB-IoT system, custom designed NFC tag printer, our patented NFC-RFID hybrid chips and the NFC printer we have designed to scale to mass production.

This is just a tease of the hardware functionality VeChain is patenting and implementing for unnamed partners. We are thrilled to roll more out to you during this time period.
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There was also a new tweet from CCK with some heavy hinting at Cisco.

https://twitter.com/CocaColaKid_OG/status/963392213244882944
 
Donos

Donos

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VeChain "tech sneak": https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-tech-sneak-preview-8834d5dde843
This is just a tease of the hardware functionality VeChain is patenting and implementing for unnamed partners. We are thrilled to roll more out to you during this time period.
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Direkt vid link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=hyT3suzrnXU (girl sitting behind the counter with a winter jacket? VeChain has no money to heat their offices? Omg better sell NOW !)

Edit: Beaten by artsi. That happens when you edit your post for 5 minutes.
 
Zip

Zip

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Oct 28, 2017
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Who is this cocacolakid exactly? I mean, I much like the interpretation of those ramblings that essentially indicates VEN will have huge things coming for it, but I don't even know who this supposed prophet is and their history.
 
CoolOff

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Oct 26, 2017
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O-Zips said:
Who is this cocacolakid exactly? I mean, I much like the interpretation of those ramblings that essentially indicates VEN will have huge things coming for it, but I don't even know who this supposed prophet is and their history.
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Because his track record is impeccable, he's 5/5 for calling partnerships ~24h before they are announced.

I can't find the complete list of tweet <-> announcement right now, but this contains some info:

http://cryptorun.co/2018/01/chronicling-coca-cola-kid/
 
isual

isual

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Oct 27, 2017
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definitely a shill. made to look like internal info but its actually a ploy for people to buy and get in.
 
CoolOff

CoolOff

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isual said:
definitely a shill. made to look like internal info but its actually a ploy for people to buy and get in.
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"Made to look like internal info" yet has 5 times called partnerships before they are announced by VeChain themselves? Sure, it's vague as hell, but the timing has always been 12-48 hours ahead of the official announcement. It's not like people dig out CCK tweets from two months back and apply it to whatever was just announced.
 
Getting Away With It

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CoolOff said:
"Made to look like internal info" yet has 5 times called partnerships before they are announced before VeChain themselves? Sure, it's vague as hell, but the timing has always been 12-48 hours ahead of the official announcement. It's not like people dig out CCK tweets from two months back and apply it to whatever was just announced.
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I mean I think the CCK is definitely an insider/someone with some knowledge, but I think there have been a few of this tweets that just didn't have any follow up right? So some might be misleading.
 
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