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Creator of Celeste confirms Madeline is canonically trans
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Preach! I hope you enjoy the game when you come to play it. It's a fantastic experience.
Finished reading the article.
This was such a great read. This should be one of the first thing to read for people that are just starting to think about what trans representation in media means and what's at stakes. It's very well written, informative and clear.
And I'm glad they managed to figure out their identity a little thanks to Celeste
This was such a great read. This should be one of the first thing to read for people that are just starting to think about what trans representation in media means and what's at stakes. It's very well written, informative and clear.
And I'm glad they managed to figure out their identity a little thanks to Celeste
My favorite platformer ever. And the story and characters were a big part of it... it feels like a game with a massive heart.
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I disagree. I wouldn't like that because it doesn't need to be spelled out, it's not something that defines her character so much it needs to be spelled out before anything else. The character or person should be focused on, her feelings, her values, her skills and attributes, her courage, you name it. And I prefer show don't tell – if showing your gender identity is something you care to show to begin with it. No trans person I've met started the conversation with "I'M TRANS AND YOU WILL DEAL WITH IT", nor does any homosexual or heterosexual or any other person that may or may not fit into certain (default) categories.
The journey of Madeline fighting and coming to accept herself is emblematic of the trans experience for many.
Yeah makes sense, was just thinking if there was direct dialogue about it, but thanks.
The ending chapter of the DLC does contain some pretty apparent nods to her being trans in a couple of the illustrations too. Article itself goes into why they didn't do anything more direct to get a better understanding of that side of things.
Would it be rude to ask Maddy Thorson if Madeline is chronologically pre op, post op, mid op or intentionally ambiguous during Celeste?
I recently beat the game and personally thought the main character may have trans before I finished it
Honestly I wish I could transition myself, but in the opposite direction
I recently beat the game and personally thought the main character may have trans before I finished it
Honestly I wish I could transition myself, but in the opposite direction
Yeah.
I'm sure you know this, but just to be very clear because some people don't: this might indicate that you yourself are trans.
Yes, that would be a bit odd. Though your phrasing makes me wonder if you mean transition with HRT, as opposed to the more blunt asking about surgery? If so, one of the elements people picked up on in the illustrations was a bottle of pills by her bed. Which could indicate that she is on HRT.
Kind of neat their new name is a nickname for Madeline as well. I wonder what they will do with their game company name - they haven't changed it from what I have seen (I will admit I never quite understand the issue with dead names when they are not malicious - but this is just me being ignorant) ; I would assume they would not want to keep the old company name?
It's a combination of things if we're talking on a general level. There's the embarrassment or discomfort of being called your prior masculine name when presenting femme or having lived with your real name for a period. It invalidates your identity in the moment which can be a blow. There's that it can out you as trans if done publicly or draw attention to the fact, which can be dangerous depending on who's around. There's also that it gives others a window to dig into your past life/self, which can be used against you in harassment.
In the case of Maddy I'm not sure what they plan to do. They did change their Twitter name around the time of putting this article out, but obviously company and brand stuff would be a little more involved.
After reading this article, it left me with warm fuzzy feelings.
Absolutely beautiful game, and I'm personally happy to have this confirmation.
Absolutely beautiful game, and I'm personally happy to have this confirmation.
Didn't they rebrand/relaunch as Extremely OK Games? I think the old name is defunct.
You are correct! From Maddy's wiki article:
I would suspect a third impetus with what we know now, but still interesting to know the other elements too. It does also note that Towerfall and Celeste will continue to be published under the former name.
Nice shout, thanks for the info as had passed me by!
