Crackdown 3: Wrecking Zone Technical Test (Insiders)

SpartyCrunch · Feb 7, 2019

Y'all need to be sure you learn the controls around jumping and boosting in mid-air.

Not only do you have a double jump, you also have two boosts you can use every time you jump.

There are a ton of options for mobility to let you get around the environment, evade your opponents' lock-ons, and everything else which goes with fully destructible environments.

starfox · Feb 7, 2019

CozMick said:
Without question a truly awful experience.

Destruction is paired back from initial footage, the menus are literally from 2006, lag spikes are game breaking, lock on aiming is disgusting and the auto pistol is more powerful than the rocket launcher.

Couple of plus points, the visuals are nice @4k/60fps and the jumping mechanics are good.

Genuinely love the clean visuals, great artstyle.

Without a question, indeed.

JigglesBunny · Feb 7, 2019

I had to turn Paper White up to 280 just for the colors to be vibrant, super bizarre HDR here.

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

Oke MP is growing on me after i played more matches and started using the "right guns"

DanteSparda504 · Feb 7, 2019

Had a good time. It was a bit janky, but it was fun. It's nice to play a multiplayer game that is not so serious and ultra competitive.

Jarrod38 · Feb 7, 2019

Going to miss this test today. Anyway it's not a Crackdown thread with game is good looking to game is last gen looking.

JINX · Feb 7, 2019

Couple more matches in, it really feels like a classic tack-on multi mode (on the lower end of that scale.) I honestly do not understand why the multi focus is on PvP, it should be two teams each with their own tower. First to take down the other teams tower wins.

modiz · Feb 7, 2019

i am disappointed that they fell into the design mistakes i was afraid of regarding the lock on issues and how the destruction is pretty much meaningless. they needed to nail the aspect of how the destruction blends into gameplay and yet they fell to the 2 things i was most scared of.

peepers · Feb 7, 2019

This shouldn't have been cancelled I'm glad I can play this

Klobrille · Feb 7, 2019

+ Super fun, you clearly feel that Certain Affinity helped
+ great movement
+ shooting feels powerful
+ amazing sound design
+ looks very good/crisp on X
+ addicting
+ destruction can look spectacular, but can look mediocre sometimes, too
+ causing destruction fills your ultimate
+ vertical gameplay wins

- FPS can be bad
- sometimes super chaotic
- lag spikes here and there, still a technical test though
- limited gameplay choices

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

Lol the comments from the narrator are awesome lol when you get kills or get killed etc.

SnatcherHunter · Feb 7, 2019

Whelp.

My experience on Xbox One X

1. Menus are indeed from 360 2006.

2. Frames was actually okay. Felt like almost locked 30fps

3. No real music in the in the game feels odd. It can get very quiet.

4. Lock on? Yeah. I don't see how this game will have extended life.

5. I did see some cool destruction. It was ridiculous. It actually fell on me. But it didnt do any damage so I didn't really care much.

6. The Atmos is actually nice. No one is mentioning that.

Am done.

nib95 · Feb 7, 2019

JINX said:
Couple more matches in, it really feels like a classic tack-on multi mode (on the lower end of that scale.) I honestly do not understand why the multi focus is on PvP, it should be two teams each with their own tower. First to take down the other teams tower wins.

This idea sounds great. Essentially like a destruction based version of something like Splatoon, only instead of colouring the entire enemy area, you're trying to destroy it or their tower. It could make for an interesting dynamic of trying to fend off opponents whilst simultaneously doing as much damage to their tower or base as humanly possible.

SuikerBrood · Feb 7, 2019

After playing a couple of matches I'm actually enjoying myself. I had a 3v3 match, so it was less chaos. Both teams were trying to use the destruction in their advantage, going 2v1 while one was destroying the buildings with a rocket launcher and the other one was hunting the player with a gun. Won 23-7.

jem · Feb 7, 2019

aember said:
I just carried the team with 17 badge captures, 0 deaths. There wasn't much fun in doing this.

This just feels tacked on. Hopefully the campaign is better developed.

Well I don't know what to say, i'm having tons of fun

bsigg · Feb 7, 2019

SnatcherHunter said:
4. Lock on? Yeah. I don't see how this game will have extended life.

With the speed of the movement and how quickly you can boost around, how else would you handle it especially on controllers?

JINX said:
Couple more matches in, it really feels like a classic tack-on multi mode (on the lower end of that scale.) I honestly do not understand why the multi focus is on PvP, it should be two teams each with their own tower. First to take down the other teams tower wins.

This is something I would expect to come later on.

aember · Feb 7, 2019

Alright, after 7 or 8 matches I can tell that it's just not for me.

I'll be around for the campaign experience, but I'm passing on the multiplayer.

JigglesBunny · Feb 7, 2019

Okay, after an hour of play, I softened to the extent that I can say it certainly is fun. Two modes, three maps, terrible UI/audio/HDR implentation, weird control scheme and overall sense of "cheapness" not withstanding, you can certainly enjoy yourself watching things blow up. $60 though? Not a chance. The campaign is definitley the meal, this is a classic 360/PS3 generation tacked on MP experience through and through.

dunkzilla · Feb 7, 2019

SpartyCrunch said:
Y'all need to be sure you learn the controls around jumping and boosting in mid-air.

Not only do you have a double jump, you also have two boosts you can use every time you jump.

There are a ton of options for mobility to let you get around the environment, evade your opponents' lock-ons, and everything else which goes with fully destructible environments.

Mobility is fine, really promising actually but I don't enjoy the game mode.

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

Does everyone have the same ultimate?

xabbott · Feb 7, 2019

JigglesBunny said:
I had to turn Paper White up to 280 just for the colors to be vibrant, super bizarre HDR here.

The HDR in the test seems to be a known issue. There's a discord for feedback with a MS rep in there answering question.

SuikerBrood · Feb 7, 2019

Alright, played 6 matches. Won 3, lost 3. Still have some performance problems. Gonna try and change some settings.

gabdeg · Feb 7, 2019

Played a couple of rounds. That was actually really fun. The movement and abilities work really well. Don't know how long I'd play this MP mode but this bodes well for SP. The cloud physics work beautifully as well. I noticed lag in traversal but not really in the physics animations. Games run at an easy 4k60 with room to spare on a 2080 Ti. Had some stuttering though.

MosquitoSmasher · Feb 7, 2019

I made a few photos to show the difference between SDR and HDR and trust me, it's even worse here, more washed out and the blacks are dark grey. It's not vibrant looking at all during a match in HDR. These photos make SDR look more vibrant than it truly is. It looks very... colorless almost here.

Goddamn, I'm disappointed now. So hoped for great HDR here.

SDR

HDR

HDR (look at the difference in black levels)

SDR

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

Does someone has some maxed out PC shots?

bsigg · Feb 7, 2019

MosquitoSmasher said:
I made a few photos to show the difference between SDR and HDR and trust me, it's even worse here, more washed out and the blacks are dark grey. It's not vibrant looking at all during a match in HDR. These photos make SDR look more vibrant than it truly is. It looks very... colorless almost here.

Goddamn, I'm disappointed now. So hoped for great HDR here.

SDR

HDR

HDR (look at the difference in black levels)

SDR

Are you in the Discord for the tests?

gabdeg · Feb 7, 2019

Theorry said:
Does someone has some maxed out PC shots?

Is there an NDA? I took a vid of a round.

jem · Feb 7, 2019

Right, different question then, are the people calling it meh just playing against shit people?

Because I've had some close matches and it can get seriously intense. I've had a few duels which went on for 30 or so seconds because we were both boosting and jumping all over the place.

Seeing two lock on lines and trying to navigate your way to safety is stressful.

This shit is fun.

SuikerBrood · Feb 7, 2019

Greebman said:
Is there an NDA? I took a vid of a round.

Nope. Post what you want.

Kolbe1894 · Feb 7, 2019

Imo they should make a mode that not just killing around at launch.

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

Greebman said:
Is there an NDA? I took a vid of a round.

Nope. Can share all you want. I shared also abit.

And people are streaming.

Btw this is a pretty good stream btw if people want to watch.

Donniewahlberg · Feb 7, 2019

SnatcherHunter said:
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5. I did see some cool destruction. It was ridiculous. It actually fell on me. But it didnt do any damage so I didn't really care much.

Haha to this one, I had a building collapse on me, with the rubble killing me, and then the announcer made fun of me/rubbed it in. It was a pretty great moment

gabdeg · Feb 7, 2019

SuikerBrood said:
Nope. Post what you want.

Ok, I'll upload the vid but prob won't be able to post it before tomorrow.

During the first match it seemed like people didn't actually destroy a lot of stuff. Wasn't until my second match that stuff started constantly collapsing and debris raining everywhere.

theAllseeingEYE · Feb 7, 2019

Theorry said:
Does someone has some maxed out PC shots?

I'll snag some for you when I get a chance, but that could take a few hours (break).

I'm really liking this so far, it's pure chaos, and fun. It feels like the best a Crackdown MP mode could be. I love ther verticality, the destruction is fantastic, and like nothing else I've ever played. It also looks great at 4k on a 1080ti.

I don't think it will be a hit with Competitive gamers, but it could be huge with the more casual players, or people who just want fun.

SuikerBrood · Feb 7, 2019

theAllseeingEYE said:
I don't think it will be a hit with Competitive gamers, but it could be huge with the more casual players, or people who just want fun.

100%!

Reminds me of those Unreal Tournament games I played on LAN parties. Just stupid fun.

Barneystuta · Feb 7, 2019

Oh dear, that was disappointing.

Barely even played one match on the One X and it was awful. Terrible lag/frame rate or both. Had to quit before the end.

Hopefully the single player is much better.

peepers · Feb 7, 2019

MosquitoSmasher said:
I made a few photos to show the difference between SDR and HDR and trust me, it's even worse here, more washed out and the blacks are dark grey. It's not vibrant looking at all during a match in HDR. These photos make SDR look more vibrant than it truly is. It looks very... colorless almost here.

Goddamn, I'm disappointed now. So hoped for great HDR here.

SDR

HDR

HDR (look at the difference in black levels)

SDR

???? SDR looks insane compared to what it looked like on my set and your HDR. I hope it has an easy fix although with HDR you never know

bsigg · Feb 7, 2019

Kolbe1894 said:
Imo they should make a mode that not just killing around at launch.

It could definitely use modes like destroy the enemy's tower/first team to reach a core/King of the hill/CTF/etc.

FUNKNOWN iXi · Feb 7, 2019

The movement, map awareness and ability cooldown management are definitely where the skill gap will be. Feeling better about the gameplay the more I get used to it, but the framerate/pacing is definitely not that smooth on a base Xbox One.

So I'm wondering, are people with an Xbox One X experiencing any issues with how it runs? That'll SUCK if it's choppy for both campaign and multiplayer on the base Xbox One.

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

FUNKNOWN iXi said:
The movement, map awareness and ability cooldown management are definitely where the skill gap will be. Feeling better about the gameplay the more I get used to it, but the framerate/pacing is definitely not that smooth on a base Xbox One.

So I'm wondering, are people with an Xbox One X experiencing any issues with how it runs? That'll SUCK if it's choppy for both campaign and multiplayer on the base Xbox One.

It runs not great. Not bad also but not locked 30 for sure. But we have alot of footage from MP from last week on Xbox One X and that looked smoother. This is a technical test (probably older build and all)

JigglesBunny · Feb 7, 2019

jem said:
Right, different question then, are the people calling it meh just playing against shit people?

Because I've had some close matches and it can get seriously intense. I've had a few duels which went on for 30 or so seconds because we were both boosting and jumping all over the place.

Seeing two lock on lines and trying to navigate your way to safety is stressful.

This shit is fun.

We could just not like the game...

Theorry · Feb 7, 2019

Love that a dash into a wall slams you through the wall.

MosquitoSmasher · Feb 7, 2019

bsigg said:
Are you in the Discord for the tests?

I barely ever use Discord. Once or twice for when GAF became Era. :)

Dyashen · Feb 7, 2019

Not sure if it's already mentioned, but there's ultrawide support:

megathemiis · Feb 7, 2019

Had some pretty fun matches. At first destruction seems meaningless, but the more you get used to the gameplay mechanics and the verticality the more you get it. It's not a multiplayer revolution, but it's also not as bad as many people present it.

Although something fells off with the performance on my Xbox One X. I hope that the final product runs better.

meenseen84 · Feb 7, 2019

I thought it was kind of fun. The destruction was ok, but didn't give me a "wow" moment. I wish they would have used all of the resources and just focused on the campaign with co-op. Hopefully they learned something about the cloud that can be used in the future because I don't think it did much for this game.

professor_t · Feb 7, 2019

It's kind of astounding that the impressions are this bad. What were they doing with all of that extra time they invested? And, bear in mind, I am an ENORMOUS fan of Crackdown. I even liked the second game!

I hope the outcome for the single player is substantially better.

EvilBoris · Feb 7, 2019

MosquitoSmasher said:
I made a few photos to show the difference between SDR and HDR and trust me, it's even worse here, more washed out and the blacks are dark grey. It's not vibrant looking at all during a match in HDR. These photos make SDR look more vibrant than it truly is. It looks very... colorless almost here.

Goddamn, I'm disappointed now. So hoped for great HDR here.

SDR

HDR

HDR (look at the difference in black levels)

SDR

No doubt about it , it's glaringly obvious , so I'd chalk it up to a bug. You can see it on the screen when matchmaking happens. Part of the screen with the scrolling text on it is perfectly black, however the background and 3D parts of the menu are rendering lighter than they should

I've let my contacts at Microsoft/Sumo know but I'd be really suprised if it hadn't been spotted and hadn't been fixed already .

pswii60 · Feb 7, 2019

CozMick said:
Without question a truly awful experience.

Destruction is paired back from initial footage, the menus are literally from 2006, lag spikes are game breaking, lock on aiming is disgusting and the auto pistol is more powerful than the rocket launcher.

Couple of plus points, the visuals are nice @4k/60fps and the jumping mechanics are good.

Genuinely love the clean visuals, great artstyle.

Basically how I feel: utter meh. But Crackdown was never about PvP as far as I'm concerned, so I'm looking forward to checking out the campaign, which got more positive previews than the MP too.

EvilBoris said:
No doubt about it , it's glaringly obvious , so I'd chalk it up to a bug. You can see it on the screen when matchmaking happens. Part of the screen with the scrolling text on it is perfectly black, however the background and 3D parts of the menu are rendering lighter than they should

I've let my contacts at Microsoft/Sumo know but I'd be really suprised if it hadn't been spotted and hadn't been fixed already .

Sumo? They've nothing to do with Wrecking Zone.

peepers · Feb 7, 2019

Maybe a dumb question but is crossplay enabled? (And will it be enabled in the final game?) I know about competitive advantages but I just want to play with my PC friend.

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