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Crackdown 3 Review Thread
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Can you please put this in a list? I'm having a hard time understanding.
For better or worse, this game feels almost exactly like Crackdown. I think that was the first 360 gen game I ever played. I'm glad to have it on Gamepass and will certainly enjoy collecting all the orbs again. I like Terry Crews too. Nothing special, but not bad.
Quite literally just about any other franchise/sequel that actually makes significant strides and improvements in the mechanics, presentation, etc.
This is some universe brain shit to post in a review thread lmao
It's risk/reward. Look at all the GoW reviews. I think the game is fine, but all of it's glaring faults (to me at least) barely got mentioned. And as someone joked I think in this thread, how come RDR gets a pass for 10 year old gameplay? (I dont give it a pass - i just couldnt keep going in gta5 because the controls are un-fun, and rdr2 didnt change the formula). But you're looking at games that are pretty much guaranteed to sell in the 10s of millions.
As you say, you didn't play Crackdown, but that's why people say its a game stuck in 2007. This feels almost exactly like it. Crackdown was also completely barebones and barren, but it existed in a time where openworld was in its infancy. It's mainly an orb collectahon game where you have fun seeing your character grind his way to improvement and byt the end of the game are superhuman. But really there's little else there. It'll be fun while it lasts.
When you thought this thread is about to slowly loose steam...in come the crazies. Lol
Thanks for the free entertainment, guys.
Thanks for the free entertainment, guys.
No, this console war drivel:
Let me get this straight, they had glaring issues , guaranteed to sell in 10s of millions and oh negativity is more attractive... No negative reviews for those easy targets.
CD3 doesn't have glaring issues, guaranteed to not sell in 10s of millions but somehow reviewers decided to throw away their integrity for it?
Are you implying that reviewers only nitpick xbox exclusive games specifically for more clicks?
Well player count is simple and no receipts needed. "Sales" would be ultimately skewed by Game Pass, particularly in the short term, but there are certainly people who would have bought it but are now Game Pass subscribers so it's not just "trial/demo" users either.
I'm pretty sure i remember them announcing records and stuff for SoT and SOD.. (and Forza but that was a given).. Let's keep the train going.. lol
never tried Crackdown and haven't tried C3 yet. but with all this jazz, it would be hilarious
My head hurts imagining all them clicks/money that could've potentially been generated via majority negative reviews with high profiles games like GOW, RDR2, BOTW.
He's not implying it, he's stating it, in post after post.
Same crap we've heard over and over again: There's a worldwide media conspiracy to give Xbox games low review scores.
Yes, it's batshit insane.
Man, some of you are really reaching to downplay the reviews. Reviewers don't have it out for your favorite game. GTA, controls or not, has so much more going for it and controls would be subjective anyhow. If you like the dang game, you like the game. No need to come in with the looney conspiracy because it didn't score well.
Convenient for whom? It's certainly more convenient for me as an end user.
They want people to play games, so it doesn't matter if they bought the game directly or through Game Pass.
I'm not necessarily advocating radial change.
I'd just like to see some of the basics get an overhaul.
The animation in this game is pathetically stiff, the gunplay is drab and offers poor feedback, hit detection on enemies is weak, etc.
The core components feel like the original game and that's problematic.
Crackdown is all about trans-humans who are enhanced to the point of meta-humanism so why not take that core concept and expound on it in meaningful ways?
For example, why not flesh out the melee combat more given that these Agents are enhanced? Why not give them a myriad of options during combat?
Why is traversal so basic? Why not some manner of parkor but drawing on their enhancements? These agents should be able to (eventually) climb flush walls by digging into the concrete and slide down buildings like the Hulk. They should be able to kick cars into groups of enemies and grab a couple of thugs and slam them together with a wet, meaty thud.
The original Crackdown was an awesome power fantasy for its time but a lot has changed in twelve years and a sequel should reflect this.
There are ways to preserve that core you love while extrapolating on it to make something even better. That's what a sequel is supposed to be, generally speaking.
Hell, I don't want to join some of the tinfoil-hat guys in this thread...but let's put it this way: data exclusivity/monopoly would be a very convenient thing for MS...once they get rid of the middleman, the sky is the limit for their PR.
User Banned (3 Days): Peddling conspiratorial rhetoric surrounding game reviews
Well, in this circumstance (playerbase numbers, the decent amount of advertising that happened in the last few months, the history of this game, etc), I would. Hell, I would come to this site, look at the prevailing viewpoints and maybe base the decision just on that.
This just seems wildly paranoid over a situation that does not present any cause for disbelief.
Think about what you are saying.
50+ different websites/reviewers all agreed to score the game low so that each one of their websites would get more clicks.
Edit: I could see it if the game was getting unversal praise and then one website gave it a super low score. But in this case its wild that you would even consider it.
RDR2 has some of the best hit detection and weapon feedback of any game I've ever played.
If your argument is that the gameplay is a decade old how come Crackdown 3 can't even come close in regards to those types of things?
Imagine being this much of conspiracy nut.
I'm sure the US government also doesn't have a way to monitor all our conversations (NSA), politicians don't make decisions based on influence from corporate back (nevermind have any laws at all to deter this, see the Ocasia Cortez viral video), and review sites aren't financially driven, and sponsored by the same publishers/developers they are reviewing, amiright? /S
His post isn't all that crazy, Journalists make sensationalistic headlines all the time.
Having said that...I have no basis to claim reviewers are taking the piss out of Crackdown 3, and I'm not claiming as much. I think it deserves better reviews, but in the end, it's probably best just to detach oneself from letting the review process affect you emotionally. It is what it is.
And this point here, is rational. Even if some journalists make sensationalist headlines, that's certainly not all encompassing, and they wouldn't affect Metacritic substantially.
Those are all the same reviewers who also agreed to give the shitty-playing RDR2 a 97 Metascore.
It's all a conspiracy I tell you. :)
But why?
What does it do well, outside of replicate the look and feel of an twelve year old game?
What components of this game are done better here than anywhere else?
No need for conspiracy, just follow the money =)
Nobody paid me and I consider RDR2 to be one of the best games - if not the best game - ever made.
I remember on the old forum getting in heated discussion with people over the cloud bullshit MS was spouting about Crackdown.
But it was so fucking long ago, I don't even feel like looking up those conversations for crow purposes.
At least the cloud is fucking dead.
But it was so fucking long ago, I don't even feel like looking up those conversations for crow purposes.
At least the cloud is fucking dead.
I doubt it considering they had to salvage the game and were not the original devs.
They did the best they could
I agree that a lot of the points you bring up could be great additions.
The gunplay and feedback could feel better, for sure. The story could be worlds better, and you are right that it's ripe for a cool, more mature sci-fi story, although I would argue that Crackdown as a game is very gamey chaos, and is cartoony. Better melee would be great, but the game already has many gameplay elements, I wouldn't expect melee, nor is it needed to be in-depth, even if it would be cool. Also, as great as kicking cars into people would be, Crackdown's Mechanic is about lifting and throwing larger and larger objects. I don't feel there's anything particularly wrong with their current mechanic for this. I would also say that Crackdown's lock-on mechanics still hold-up, and enable a certain gameplay feel that Crackdown needs, in order to feel like crackdown, even if they could feel less rigid.
I think your Traversal points are where I take issue a bit though. Being able to straight up climb walls would break Crackdown. The game is about leveling up your agent, and slowing being able to leap higher, and higher, in well defined amounts. If you could just climb walls, there would be no fun or challenge in the platforming/ climbing traversal. I'm sure it can be modernized in some way, just not in that way.
I tried to understand your argument and put it in a list:
No idea if this is what you were talking about. But it's a list.
(It's the amount of responses per review thread)
:D