Seems soIt seems all Microsoft First Party games end up in one of three buckets.
1. Is cancelled
2. Comes out and is disappointing.
3. Is Forza Horizon and actually good.
Seems soIt seems all Microsoft First Party games end up in one of three buckets.
1. Is cancelled
2. Comes out and is disappointing.
3. Is Forza Horizon and actually good.
I don't really think anyone thinks gears 4 was disappointing, the only criticism for it is that it was too safe and with gears 5 looking to push the boundary I don't think you can say this about the Coalition at all.
And you forgot about Ori. Also regular Forza 7 still won racing game of the year...
I reckon on the software side Microsoft gave up years ago for this gen. I have no other theory why their output is so lacking this gen.
Well your very anecdotal experience clashes with my very anecdotal experience.You would be surprised then. I and many people I know were very disappointed with Gears 4. I still can't bring myself to finish it, and I'm not the kind of person to just drop a game.
I was utterly, totally, and completely bored the whole game through. It didn't help that the bland, boring, ugly, focus-tested, marketing-department-designed, TV commercial-esque characters utterly dominated in a story that did not flow together and could not hold my attention. I know I played about 3/5 of the campaign and could not tell you what it's about. Yet again, that just isn't how I normally am with games. And I've met plenty of people who feel either the same way or similar.
I was just thinking that. I feel the entire industry is going to change. There will not be previews etc. It will be, in some cases a stealth drop.
Every review and opposing comment discusses the dev time and how many resources this game has taken up. Imagine if it just stealth dropped like apex. I would put money it would still have its issues highlighted but these scores wouldn't be this low.
Well your very anecdotal experience clashes with my very anecdotal experience.
I'm playing the game tbh.I remember people getting really angry when it was suggested that the destruction didn't look super impressive conpared to games in the past and even to previous showings of crackdown 3. I wonder where those people are now.
Generations over if u dont have a xbox one nothing will convince you. Next games are halo gears NTs game and ori that's it basicallyI think people just want a good/great exclusive. I wanted a reason to pick up an Xbox one. Loved my 360.
I've seen people on Twitter make the "fake reviews" claim. Fairly predictable behaviour from the ones I am referring to though.
I remember people getting really angry when it was suggested that the destruction didn't look super impressive ccompared to games in the past and even to previous showings of crackdown 3. I wonder where those people are now.
I was speaking about the reviews of the game.As I expected, despite your original assertion that "no one was disappointed" you've responded to my point that you are objectively incorrect, with a shift in subject to the quality of the game itself, rather than its reception, which was your original topic/thesis.
My point was not to say the game is objectively bad. My point was that I totally and utterly did not enjoy it, and know many people who didn't. The idea that it's just this wonderful game is not universal, and your "very anecdotal experience" only weakens your position, since you have projected your opinion upon the gaming community at large. I did not do so, only stated mine, and that of others I have spoken to. You made a large sweeping statement that was easily countered. But nice try.
You said you didn't think any one was disappointed. That just isn't true, and I used myself as an example.
The destruction is still super impressive lol.I remember people getting really angry when it was suggested that the destruction didn't look super impressive ccompared to games in the past and even to previous showings of crackdown 3. I wonder where those people are now.
So you're saying that you spent time denying a downgrade that even digital foundry had made note of?
So you're saying that you spent time denying a downgrade that even digital foundry had made note of?
Fun, no story, dumb, simple. I'm loving it hahahah having a blast hunting orbs and trying the driving achievements.
Not all games need to have the God of War weight, density and quality. Sometimes only exploding things is enough.
They tried to sell those games with little to no content or large issues for a lot of money on day one. Why wouldn't reviewers review the product being sold? Unless the games are sold at an extreme discount because of how rough they are at launch, there's no reason to lie or pull punches in reviews because maybe eventually the games will be amazing.I know Sea of Theives and State of Decay reviewed poorly but who the fuck review on going online games nowadays at launch? These games evolve every day. Reviews are silly for these titles.
Bit off topic but just with regards to MS titles.
They tried to sell those games with little to no content or large issues for a lot of money on day one. Why wouldn't reviewers review the product being sold? Unless the games are sold at an extreme discount because of how rough they are at launch, there's no reason to lie or pull punches in reviews because maybe eventually the games will be amazing.
MS's problem isn't that they focus on online games, it's that they've consistently released very few games, many of which were mediocre to outright bad.
Microsoft becoming the biggest laughing stock in the gaming industry.
So you're a crackdown fan who just wanted more crackdown, yet your score is 1/10 higher than the consensus? LolCould the game be better? Absolutely. Its definitely underwhelming as a big Crackdown fan. But its a solid 7.
I know Sea of Theives and State of Decay reviewed poorly but who the fuck review on going online games nowadays at launch? These games evolve every day. Reviews are silly for these titles.
Bit off topic but just with regards to MS titles.
I don't mean their opinions are invalid, it's just "exaggeration speak". They can think what they want, but this doesn't control like a 5/10 game. I really feel this is a better game than it's being reviewed, and it's the first time that I'm honestly shocked that it's reviewing as poorly as it is. That's too bad for the devs and the franchise, because the game really isn't that bad.Just because you don't agree with them doesn't make them garbage.
Games likes this, Just Cause 3, Agents of Mayhem lose the fun when it's all the same thing with no decent variation. They are all fun in the first few hours and then boredom sets in.
Microsoft becoming the biggest laughing stock in the gaming industry.
These reviews are garbage. The game is a blast to play, and it really feels like an ultra refined crackdown 1. It's more fun than I expected and incredibly faithful to the original. If you like this series at all you should give this one a try. This game as at least an 8 just from how fun it is to hop around and blow stuff up and get progressively stronger
The mission design is egregiously bad is the thing that sticks out to me.
Just played 1 hour of the game but, if "meaty content" means missions and a structure like every other open world game, I'd take a 60 metacritic game that doesnt follow those trends over jsut another open world game.I wonder why MS, not really having a signature AAA 1st party Open World Action game (at least none that I can think of right now?), hasn't put more force behind this over all those years it was in development. Like it's not like Crackdown doesn't have potential, what exactly was the problem? The lack of meaty content in this is just jarring in my opinion. It's nuts how they let themselves dominate by Sony like that.
It's not the best game ever made, but it's not a 5 either. I'm not going to sit and write a review just for you. I'm just throwing my two cents in. The barrier to entry is so low with gamepss that franchise fans should try it anyway.You can think what you want but the three or four reviews I've read did a better job backing up their opinion than you just did. The mission design is egregiously bad is the thing that sticks out to me.
This and the barebones multiplayer are the two reasons I can't recommend this game. The rest of it is all pretty.. good?
The mission structure is just very repetitive. In the parts I've seen and played right now I see one interesting boss fight (the industry one).
The game is not bad. It's just.. a 2007 game in a 2019 shell.
Because this 2007 point keeps being brought up, just to remind everyone that in 2007 we had the release of Bioshock, Halo 3, Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, Orange Box (Portal), Team Fortress 2, Super Mario Galaxy, Mass Effect, God of War 2 and more.
When people say it's like a game from a decade ago, presumably they mean a game that was not so great even a decade ago.
Just played 1 hour of the game but, if "meaty content" means missions and a structure like every other open world game, I'd take a 60 metacritic game that doesnt follow those trends over jsut another open world game.
Just played 1 hour of the game but, if "meaty content" means missions and a structure like every other open world game, I'd take a 60 metacritic game that doesnt follow those trends over jsut another open world game.
It's not the best game ever made, but it's not a 5 either. I'm not going to sit and write a review just for you. I'm just throwing my two cents in. The barrier to entry is so low with gamepss that franchise fans should try it anyway.
Ms fans act like they are a cult. You can't say anything negative about Xbox brand. They will hunt you down you ask for a ban. You can't deny how great their games are and the whole media is wrong.You can think what you want but the three or four reviews I've read did a better job backing up their opinion than you just did. The mission design is egregiously bad is the thing that sticks out to me.
Except it follows open world trends from 10 years ago instead.
All fanboys are the same, doesn't madder who they support.Ms fans act like they are a cult. You can't say anything negative about Xbox brand. They will hunt you down you ask for a ban. You can't deny how great their games are and the whole media is wrong.
But when it comes with articles saying Xbox is set to dominate nextgen they are right.
They make 1-2 threads about negative aspects from sony. They point Sony as arrogant. Always the same users and it is fine.
But if you show the reality to them how Ms lacks in game department. How bad there games are you get banned.
That's how the cult of Xbox works in Era since last E3 allowed by the mods
Everyone with eyes know what I'm saying is the truth.
Everybody can see the whole threads created every week against Sony. How arrogant they are. Against Lauren, Ryan. Always made by Xbox fans.
Ms fans act like they are a cult. You can't say anything negative about Xbox brand. They will hunt you down you ask for a ban. You can't deny how great their games are and the whole media is wrong.
But when it comes with articles saying Xbox is set to dominate nextgen they are right.
They make 1-2 threads about negative aspects from sony. They point Sony as arrogant. Always the same users and it is fine.
But if you show the reality to them how Ms lacks in game department. How bad there games are you get banned.
That's how the cult of Xbox works in Era since last E3 allowed by the mods
Everyone with eyes know what I'm saying is the truth.
Everybody can see the whole threads created every week against Sony. How arrogant they are. Against Lauren, Ryan. Always made by Xbox fans.
Ms fans act like they are a cult. You can't say anything negative about Xbox brand. They will hunt you down you ask for a ban. You can't deny how great their games are and the whole media is wrong.
But when it comes with articles saying Xbox is set to dominate nextgen they are right.
They make 1-2 threads about negative aspects from sony. They point Sony as arrogant. Always the same users and it is fine.
But if you show the reality to them how Ms lacks in game department. How bad there games are you get banned.
That's how the cult of Xbox works in Era since last E3 allowed by the mods
Everyone with eyes know what I'm saying is the truth.
Everybody can see the whole threads created every week against Sony. How arrogant they are. Against Lauren, Ryan. Always made by Xbox fans.
Ms fans act like they are a cult. You can't say anything negative about Xbox brand. They will hunt you down you ask for a ban. You can't deny how great their games are and the whole media is wrong.
But when it comes with articles saying Xbox is set to dominate nextgen they are right.
They make 1-2 threads about negative aspects from sony. They point Sony as arrogant. Always the same users and it is fine.
But if you show the reality to them how Ms lacks in game department. How bad there games are you get banned.
That's how the cult of Xbox works in Era since last E3 allowed by the mods
Everyone with eyes know what I'm saying is the truth.
Everybody can see the whole threads created every week against Sony. How arrogant they are. Against Lauren, Ryan. Always made by Xbox fans.
Why? Because they've released some badly reviewed games? I think they were a bigger laughing stock back in 2013.
I think Microsoft is a great contribution to the gaming industry at the moment. Their push for crossplay, their accessibility controller, the investments they do in gaming and even the server capacities that powers many multiplayer online games.