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Crackdown 3 Review Thread
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Damn. I did not want my gut to be correct but I had this game preordered the day they announced it over 3 years ago. I cancelled my preorder on Amazon about a month and a half ago and it was literally the hardest preorder I ever had to cancel. I loved the first 2 games.
I cannot help but think of the latest Doom. It was still Doom but it was also a new take on Doom. People loved the nostalgia but also loved the fact it brought something new to the series. Based on everything I just read in the reviews this game seems to be just nothing but nostalgia. Perhaps the reviewers are wrong, and I will play it regardless as I have GamePass, but damn. Seems to be an overwhelming consensus.
I fucking love collecting Orbs though.
I cannot help but think of the latest Doom. It was still Doom but it was also a new take on Doom. People loved the nostalgia but also loved the fact it brought something new to the series. Based on everything I just read in the reviews this game seems to be just nothing but nostalgia. Perhaps the reviewers are wrong, and I will play it regardless as I have GamePass, but damn. Seems to be an overwhelming consensus.
I fucking love collecting Orbs though.
More importantly how good is the PC version and is the online worth playing.
I refuse to believe this game is somehow worse than 2 which was a wet fart.
I refuse to believe this game is somehow worse than 2 which was a wet fart.
Damn, it's somehow actually a fair bit lower than my prediction of 75. Microsoft first party has been somewhat of a train wreck this gen and it's less surprising they offer a service like Game Pass. GP is literally the only reason I'll even be playing and trying the game, because I certainly wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
This is also why I'm often reluctant to give too much weight to some of the impressions and opinions about the game or games from....certain enthusiasts on here. It appears certain people just have different standards and expectations than others.
This is also why I'm often reluctant to give too much weight to some of the impressions and opinions about the game or games from....certain enthusiasts on here. It appears certain people just have different standards and expectations than others.
Exactly. Phil was in charge of software output when MS decided everything needed to be Halo, Gears and Kinect crap. Phil was part of the exec team that decided Indies were no longer important headed into the launch of the XB1. Phil has done a pretty good job with services the last couple of years, but he continues to miss the mark with software.
Crackdown 3 is the best crackdown game and it isn't remotely close.
It's fun trying to contextualize these really strange reviews.
Wow, yea those those scores aren't good. The footage I saw the last couple of days looked fun, like solid 7/10
Banned, that's what you can say about it.
So looks like mediocre is the general score? Hey at least with a little post launch support this should end up pretty nice. Give it a couple months tops. Can't wait to get my hands on it this weekend for some mp fun with a friend.
This is one of those times where the meta-result "feels" odd juxtaposed against other games in that range, just knowing some of those have much more basic issues. Which isn't to say I'd call out the reviews more generally. Even if it sometimes ends up a little reductive (especially for games that play distinctly), it's fair to ask where a game is, relative to the market.
Just the same, I'm looking forward to my time with it. If people end up coming in with lowered expectations, that could even serve it better in the long run.
The reviewers are really putting a negative spin on GP as a proposition. I don't think XBOX can be happy with that as the prevailing narrative.
People really overestimated the scores at the start of this thread lol, and they were already going low. Funny to think that some looked at those estimates and still went "people are underestimating this game".
It is a bit surprising but not completely unexpected. Auto aim just isn't a fun or engaging gameplay mechanic any more, and it seems the combat gameplay was what was meant to set this game apart - it didn't have anything else going for it that's for sure.
It is a bit surprising but not completely unexpected. Auto aim just isn't a fun or engaging gameplay mechanic any more, and it seems the combat gameplay was what was meant to set this game apart - it didn't have anything else going for it that's for sure.
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All publishers release a bunch of titles per year, some review well, some don't that's the nature of the business.
I don't see anyone blame Shuhei for this turd.
I think the Mattrick comments are funny.
Phil Spencer was head of studios from 2009 to 2014. He was head of Xbox from 2014 to 2017. And now he is head of gaming.
This is all on him. I don't think he should be put on a chopping block for it and I appreciate the courage to finish and deliver this game. But this is all on him and his team.
The day they decided to put Xbox first party games on Gamepass day one, must have been the day they decided to not cancel Crackdown 3. This game would have been a terrible failure if it hadn't come to Gamepass. Now millions will play it, many will like it, many won't. But the IP can still have a future.
This is very telling tho:
Microsoft Studios, or now Xbox Game Studios, needs to get their shit together. I'm sure 2019 will end on a high for them. Gears of War and Ori are fantastic properties and they have very talented game studios working on those games. So I hope this is an 'end of an era'
It was a shame the Xbox One X launched with Super Lucky's Tale. It was a shame Sea of Thieves didn't launch with more content and it was a shame that State of Decay 2 launched in such a buggy state.
With this one over with, they can leave the past behind and put on a good track record. Because if they continue like this, it will become the norm. And a Microsoft game should mean something. It should mean quality. It should mean exploring new technological and game design territories. We've just seen mediocre or unfinished games these last few years. Yes, Forza Horizon 4 was fantastic. Halo Wars 2 was a more than competent strategy game and Forza Motorsport 7 is a good racing sim. But that's not enough for 2,5 years.
Phil Spencer was head of studios from 2009 to 2014. He was head of Xbox from 2014 to 2017. And now he is head of gaming.
This is all on him. I don't think he should be put on a chopping block for it and I appreciate the courage to finish and deliver this game. But this is all on him and his team.
The day they decided to put Xbox first party games on Gamepass day one, must have been the day they decided to not cancel Crackdown 3. This game would have been a terrible failure if it hadn't come to Gamepass. Now millions will play it, many will like it, many won't. But the IP can still have a future.
This is very telling tho:
Microsoft Studios, or now Xbox Game Studios, needs to get their shit together. I'm sure 2019 will end on a high for them. Gears of War and Ori are fantastic properties and they have very talented game studios working on those games. So I hope this is an 'end of an era'
It was a shame the Xbox One X launched with Super Lucky's Tale. It was a shame Sea of Thieves didn't launch with more content and it was a shame that State of Decay 2 launched in such a buggy state.
With this one over with, they can leave the past behind and put on a good track record. Because if they continue like this, it will become the norm. And a Microsoft game should mean something. It should mean quality. It should mean exploring new technological and game design territories. We've just seen mediocre or unfinished games these last few years. Yes, Forza Horizon 4 was fantastic. Halo Wars 2 was a more than competent strategy game and Forza Motorsport 7 is a good racing sim. But that's not enough for 2,5 years.
If that $2 Game Pass subscription for two months is available still I think you might want to get on that and call it a day.
I agree that MS need to alter the perception of strong and weak teams, ie we can bank on Playground l, 343i & Coalition, we should be able to bank on the fact it's an MGS (XGS) production regardless of who's behind it, and that to me is what Phil is doing by bringing in Booty, to set a company wide standard rather then relying on individual teams.
That's an interesting thing. I love new Doom but...I still love old Doom. I would be just as happy with either one. Not everything needs to evolve.
...but still, CD3 is definitely another Crackdown with most of its faults (though I feel the actual city design is *MUCH* better and more fun to explore)
Halo 5, Gears 4, and Forza all reviewed fine, the issue is the old guard can't keep it up forever. MS knows this and that's why they bought up all these studios, to break this norm.
I was expecting upper 60s with a chance of a low 70. This is closer to upper 50s. Fortunately, this should be the last of the games from that portion of this gen.
Imma read some of these reviews to see what the common complaints are.
Imma read some of these reviews to see what the common complaints are.
Oof, I truly didn't expect to have such a poor reception, that's really disappointing to see.
(Was expecting like a 70-73).
(Was expecting like a 70-73).
It's more a matter that Crackdown 3 was the ultra hyped, triple A sequel to one of the most acclaimed 360 exclusives... vs. your example: a B game (at most) for VR that people barely knew before launch.All publishers release a bunch of titles per year, some review well, some don't that's the nature of the business.
I don't see anyone blame Shuhei for this turd.
Not saying this is Phil's fault (in fact, I would say it's the cloud focus imposed by the early days of Xbox One and Don Mattrick what killed this game).
All accounts, try here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/x...signin1.0&lc=1033&activetab=pivot:overviewtab
$2, buy 1 month get another free.
Honestly, the way people completely review scores as gospel disappoints me. How many over-rated R* games do we have to get to understand that some games tend to do better in reviews solely based on production values? Y'all never liked critically panned games before?
I bet I would have more fun with Crackdown 3 than RDR2.
I bet I would have more fun with Crackdown 3 than RDR2.
Would you be saying this if the scores were all 80s and 90s?
they have the assets now for sure but that is not enough.
They need to delivery. The ones I have hope is Playground Fable, Halo Infinite and Gears 5 to start a new time for MS first party studios.
I would say about Obsidian but this one will take time.
I do feel a little bad for Sumo coming out of this.
I feel this game was unfortunately out of their league, especially so taking into account what Sony and Nintendo have been knocking out with seeming ease the past few years.
Due to the other failures of Xbox first party Crackdown had more resting on it than it should have.
But who could have actually made a real next gen Crackdown 3? A game that pushes boundaries while also feeling familiar and respectful to the old games.
There's no first party studio capable of such at MS and the only real options for independent devs that do work for hire stuff would be Sumo, Iron Galaxy, Ninja Theory, Volition and Bluepoint.
The OG games creators couldn't make the new game work.
I dunno....it may have all just been a bad idea from the off and the only positive to come out of it was whatever they take from their use of the cloud.
I feel this game was unfortunately out of their league, especially so taking into account what Sony and Nintendo have been knocking out with seeming ease the past few years.
Due to the other failures of Xbox first party Crackdown had more resting on it than it should have.
But who could have actually made a real next gen Crackdown 3? A game that pushes boundaries while also feeling familiar and respectful to the old games.
There's no first party studio capable of such at MS and the only real options for independent devs that do work for hire stuff would be Sumo, Iron Galaxy, Ninja Theory, Volition and Bluepoint.
The OG games creators couldn't make the new game work.
I dunno....it may have all just been a bad idea from the off and the only positive to come out of it was whatever they take from their use of the cloud.
The difference is that almost all Sony exclusives are reviewing good.All publishers release a bunch of titles per year, some review well, some don't that's the nature of the business.
I don't see anyone blame Shuhei for this turd.
I know I'm definitely going to review Crackdown 3 more than RDR2
I think the Mattrick comments are funny.
Phil Spencer was head of studios from 2009 to 2014. He was head of Xbox from 2014 to 2017. And now he is head of gaming.
This is all on him. I don't think he should be put on a chopping block for it and I appreciate the courage to finish and deliver this game. But this is all on him and his team.
The day they decided to put Xbox first party games on Gamepass day one, must have been the day they decided to not cancel Crackdown 3. This game would have been a terrible failure if it hadn't come to Gamepass. Now millions will play it, many will like it, many won't. But the IP can still have a future.
This is very telling tho:
Microsoft Studios, or now Xbox Game Studios, needs to get their shit together. I'm sure 2019 will end on a high for them. Gears of War and Ori are fantastic properties and they have very talented game studios working on those games. So I hope this is an 'end of an era'
It was a shame the Xbox One X launched with Super Lucky's Tale. It was a shame Sea of Thieves didn't launch with more content and it was a shame that State of Decay 2 launched in such a buggy state.
With this one over with, they can leave the past behind and put on a good track record. Because if they continue like this, it will become the norm. And a Microsoft game should mean something. It should mean quality. It should mean exploring new technological and game design territories. We've just seen mediocre or unfinished games these last few years. Yes, Forza Horizon 4 was fantastic. Halo Wars 2 was a more than competent strategy game and Forza Motorsport 7 is a good racing sim. But that's not enough for 2,5 years.
You make some good points and also some huge speculations here. Regardless of Crackdown 3 scoring lower than Crackdown 2 I'm telling you 3 is by far a better game than that shit show, that was the real disappointment of the franchise. Crackdown 3 if anything is a return to the classic form but it seems it has not changed enough from the 360 era title for current reviewers.
CONSENSUS?!
Are you a brainless sheep that lets other people think for you, Larry? No! You're a motherducking agent, Larry!
Get your Graviton Tether and your singularity gun, COLLECT SOME ORBS, and save the city!
Any reviewer connecting Game Pass to the reason this game is mediocre is trolling at this point. It's not even logical. Most of the campaigns development was done before 1st party games going into the service was a thing. Developers don't intentionally make mediocre stuff because they know the game is going into Game Pass. That narrative is pure idiocy.
Crackdown 3 was never going to be reviewed well, I called the 60s in this very thread (though I expected high 60s - not that it's such a huge difference, plus the rating isn't final yet). But I'll just say this: the gaming world would be a much more sad and boring place without games like Crackdown, Earth Defense Force, Dynasty Warriors, Agents Of Mayhem, Onechanbara, WET or ReCore. Not everything needs to be a quadruple-A cinematic masterpiece, sometimes all I wanna do is jump around collecting orbs in a giant city, shoot at mindless hordes of enemies, play an intentionally over the top sequence or laugh at some Z-movie styles in a game, even if it looks like a several years old game or if it's janky as fuck. The first Crackdown 1 holds up in that regard to this day: an outdated yet fun and different open world game. I yet have to try Crackdown 3, and I'll probably dive into it properly next week only (will give it a shot before then, though), but personally I wouldn't want a new Crackdown that isn't like the old Crackdown. But that's me. Not everyone has to agree with that.
So with State of Decay 2, Sea of Thieves, and Crackdown 3 reviewing poorly, I wonder if Game Pass was created (in part) as an answer to the question of, "We know these games are not going to review poorly and therefore not sell well. So how can we get some return on investment?"
Reviews are important but should not be the only method used to pass off judgement.
They shouldn't, but in a review thread they are going to be. 99% of the people in this thread have not played the game. What other frame of reference do we have?
Still looking forward to checking it out and playing with a friend. I think it will tickle an itch I've had for a little while. Too bad they didn't progress the genre though. Game could have been super interesting