Could the "red pill, blue pill", predestination and rest of the Matrix stuff translate well to a 9th gen AAA game?

[Marano]

I honestly think tech could be good enough now that this game could be possible and a hit depending on who gets to work on it.

What would it look like? Who could work on it?

Before someone says Remedy, I honestly think if they started working on it in 2021 a project of this cale from them wouldnt come out before the 10th gen, especially considering they already have a project with epic and other stuff.

Is this something you would personally want?

If rights for the Matrix are a problem, could a new IP with these elements work?

Edit: For those not getting the question, it is a Matrix game yeah, or as close to that as an AAA Matrix game can be in the 9th gen.

Edit 2: Further clarification, when I say red pill, blue pill, predestination and rest of the Matrix stuff I dont mean like previous Matrix games, more of what Hockeymac18 said in post 30 ITT and I do realize tech and budget are hurdles that make this nearly impossible so I had that reflected in that poll, I am sure a new Matrix game that is nothing like what we are talking about here will happen or it at least has a good chance of happening some time soon.

 

[bombermouse]

The what?

 

[Neuromancer]

I think you need to explain a bit better. Do you mean a video game set in the Matrix, or a real Matrix type of thing like an advanced version of VR?

 

[7thFloor]

I don't understand your question

 

[Hailinel]

Are you asking if it's possible to create a game based on The Matrix on next-gen hardware?

Like...what?

 

[hey it's that dog]

you've got some blanks to fill in here, OP

 

[mddover]

I don't really get what you mean, either. Do you mean a game where the player picks either a "red pill" or "blue pill" option and depending on what they pick they get a different story/game? Cause I suppose that would work - that's basically what picking Jill or Chris in RE1 does.

 

[molnizzle]

The fuck?

 

[SaberVS7]

What in the goddamned?

 

[Marano]

The what?

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I think you need to explain a bit better. Do you mean a video game set in the Matrix, or a real Matrix type of thing like an advanced version of VR?

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I don't understand your question

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Are you asking if it's possible to create a game based on The Matrix on next-gen hardware?

Like...what?

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you've got some blanks to fill in here, OP

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I don't really get what you mean, either. Do you mean a game where the player picks either a "red pill" or "blue pill" option and depending on what they pick they get a different story/game? Cause I suppose that would work - that's basically what picking Jill or Chris in RE1 does.

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What in the goddamned?

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Yes an AAA 9th gen Matrix game, sorry if the OP wasnt clear, I edited it.

 

[Magnus]

Poor OP. Everyone is so confused. (I am too, lol)

But I think what OP means is a game based on the Matrix franchise, yes. Probably a "you are part of the Matrix" as a new character, akin to the new Hogwarts game where you basically live a full experience within that universe, as opposed to simply playing as one of the franchise leads through events that mirror one of the film stories.

I'd be super down for it.

I have no idea what 9th or 10th gen means -- haven't seen those numbers before, lol. Is 9th the gen we just entered with the PS5/Series X? What gen is the Switch part of? lol

 

[KarmaCow]

So what, Second Life but more detailed and occasionally you see someone in a trenchcoat doing wirefu in the background?

That isn't a matter of the tech not being there, it's way too expensive in every respect.

 

[Neuromancer]

Well Matrix 4 is coming out at some point right? So I suppose there could be some kind of game tie-in.

 

[Hailinel]

Yes an AAA 9th gen Matrix game, sorry if the OP wasnt clear, I edited it.

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I honestly don't understand why there couldn't be. There have been Matrix games before on older hardware.

 

[VAD]

I mean VR exists now so yeah, they could make a game where you enter the matrix.

 

[Bardeh]

I don't think it's a matter of tech, it's a matter of it being an old IP, would cost a shitton, no guarantee it would sell.

 

[Skeff]

I enjoyed enter the matrix. It was fun, so I guess?

 

[MazeHaze]

A red pill game sounds like a bunch of MRA meninist alt-right stuff

 

[Playboi Carti]

 

[TheChungusAmongUs]

A red pill game sounds like a bunch of MRA meninist alt-right stuff

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Which is ironic because they co-opted a concept from the Matrix which was an allegory for being trans.

 

[MazeHaze]

Which is ironic because they co-opted a concept from the Matrix which was an allegory for being trans.

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Sure but the phrase "red pill" is synonymous with toxicity nowadays.

 

[Nooblet]

OP why didn't you simply ask "Can they make a matrix game in 9th gen?" instead of whatever you wrote?

Cause the answer to that is yes, the made a matrix game on PS2 even, it's not a special in translateable source material. But would they make one? No one knows.

 

[Marano]

OP why didn't you simply ask "Can they make a matrix game in 9th gen?" instead of whatever you wrote?

Cause the answer to that is yes, would they make one? No one knows.

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Sorry, I do think it would be very expensive to make yeah and require a ton of man power.

 

[gravitationsfeld]

What exactly would the gameplay be?

 

[Soundchaser]

I'm not sure what the actual question here is, but I think Rocksteady should make a Matrix game.

 

[GlitchyDegree]

Yes. We've had Matrix games before, one of which let you chose which pill to take. But choosing the blue pill just ended the game.

 

[Failburger]

Ugh, 'red pilling' is some toxic shit.

 

[ReginaldXIV]

Yes it's called VRChat and you can play it now for free. There was also The Matrix Online. Still have no idea what this thread is about.

 

[Lulu]

Are you on a few pills?

 

[Hockeymac18]

Yes an AAA 9th gen Matrix game, sorry if the OP wasnt clear, I edited it.

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Like you mean a completely artificial Earth that we "play" in? Like what the Matrix is in The Matrix movies? Sounds amazingly difficult and still out of reach for our technology.

Or do you mean a game based on the The Matrix movies where you play as a character following the typical story arch of those kinds of games. Yes, of course. And there have been versions on older generations.

 

[My Blue Heaven]

i'm not really confused by the premise of the OP, i'm confused why there are seven goddamn poll options. brevity son

 

[Lord Azrael]

Huh? I can't even tell what you're pitching

 

[nihilence]

Do we get to choose the pill?

We can live off the grid in Zion, or eat steak like Cypher?

 

[Marano]

Like you mean a completely artificial Earth that we "play" in? Like what the Matrix is in The Matrix movies? Sounds amazingly difficult and still out of reach for our technology.

Or do you mean a game based on the The Matrix movies where you play as a character following the typical story arch of those kinds of games. Yes, of course. And there have been versions on older generations.

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The first yeah and that is why tech and budget are part of the poll because it would require tech advancements and an insane budget to pull off.

 

[My Blue Heaven]

Do we get to choose the pill?

We can live off the grid in Zion, or eat steak like Cypher?

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fuck yeah i'm gonna side with the agents and teamkill my clan so i can eat that bomb ass steak

 

[KhandoleezzaRice]

I think it's less of a question about the tech and more about whether the franchise could get such a budget. If Matrix 4 delivers and kicks off another trilogy I can see it happening with the right partners. I imagine it would probably end up as some kind of live service thing though.

 

[Hailinel]

Sure but the phrase "red pill" is synonymous with toxicity nowadays.

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People here get that. But you can't discuss the particulars of the plot of The Matrix without its dinstiction between the red and blue pills.

That being said, I could see a remake of The Matrix dropping the pills for something else, given what how their meaning have been coopted by chuds.

 

[DarthBuzzard]

You're basically asking for a full-blown metaverse. That won't be happening until at least PS7, and it will have to be built around VR/AR rather than traditional interfaces.

It's not that we don't have the tech to create such a world - we mostly do, but creating it at a scale and fidelity that you want is such a massive undertaking that it will take many years and likely many companies all adding to a decentralized world.

Sure, Microsoft Flight Simulator is the entire globe, but you can't just get out of the plane and enter a shop, or play basketball, or visit a night club - that is all content that has to be developed for.

 

[Parthenios]

I don't think you can use the red pill/blue pill stuff specifically because it's been co-opted by radicals.

 

[Hockeymac18]

The first yeah and that is why tech and budget are part of the poll because it would require tech advancements and an insane budget to pull off.

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Thanks for clarifying. I guess one option that I didn't see was a future generation. I think we're still a bit far off even for technology to simulate the entire Earth and all of the things happening in it.

 

[Marano]

Further clarification, when I say red pill, blue pill, predestination and rest of the Matrix stuff I dont mean like previous Matrix games, more of what Hockeymac18 said in post 30 ITT and I do realize tech and budget are hurdles that make this nearly impossible so I had that reflected in that poll, I am sure a new Matrix game that is nothing like what we are talking about here will happen or it at least has a good chance of happening some time soon.​

 

[Marano]

Thanks for clarifying. I guess one option that I didn't see was a future generation. I think we're still a bit far off even for technology to simulate the entire Earth and all of the things happening in it.

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I should have an option for gen 11 and further, but that is 15 years from now, things will be so different.

I am sure there will be some tech for it in the 10th gen at least, not just hardware, I think software improvements will make it possible.

 

[Marano]

People here get that. But you can't discuss the particulars of the plot of The Matrix without its dinstiction between the red and blue pills.

That being said, I could see a remake of The Matrix dropping the pills for something else, given what how their meaning have been coopted by chuds.

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I wanna hear a discussion around the matrix that doesnt mention the pills or predestination, what would that look like lol?

 

[MrNewVegas]

So OP if I chose to take the blue pill does that mean my console will shut off on its own?

If I take the red pill will I transform into a true gamer who's super Misogynistic?

 

[Z-Beat]

I wanna hear a discussion around the matrix that doesnt mention the pills or predestination, what would that look like lol?

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The nature of the robot uprising, the existence of the supernatural within The Matrix, etc.

There are a million things to discuss about The Matrix that have nothing to do with the pills, and I feel like the technical achievability of the game you're proposing is one of them, mainly because many other games and series have done that premise without that discussion. You're basically asking if it's possible to have a fully rendered earth to screw around in that you can choose to leave at any time for another simultaneously active Zion.

 

[Jonnax]

Take the blue pill and you play Office Simulator 2021?

 

[construct]

you're asking for ready player one i think. i very much doubt microsoft/sony/nintendo are going to rob us of all or clothes and stick us into jelly baths while plugged into their new consoles through our necks.

maybe amazon or google though

 

[MazeHaze]

I still don't really understand exactly what the OP is talking about. He said similar to what's in post 30, but like, how similar? What exactly do you want? A fully rendered alternate reality? All this pill talk and how you worded your OP is really confusing.

Edit: like you bring up remedy so I think, ok a remedy game, they make linear, narrative third person shooters, but you seem to think they would be a fit, but then you say you want a fully realized, real actual matrix, which is so far beyond the scope of remedy games that it doesn't make sense, so then it seems like you mean a game based on the matrix movie?

 

[Biggersmaller]

Sorry. Don't want another game with a predestination premise.

 

[pronk]

I don't understand what OP is asking for. There are open world games that are like the real world, like GTA. That was possible on the PS2. Do you mean something that is completely indistinguishable from reality? Because that will never happen. Aside from that there are just different levels of approximation to that, and every gen it gets better. So it depends how you define your goal.