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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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Akira (classic anime movie + comics):
The 2020 Tokyo Olympics Were Predicted 30 Years Ago by Akira
Cyberpunk manga Akira debuted in 1982—over thirty years ago. The manga, and subsequent anime, are set against the backdrop of the forthcoming 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
kotaku.com
Has there been any studies on testing of animals in the areas of infection yet to see if they can carry/transmit?
Another great thread, this time by:
The part of the thread about how the lack of paid leave for many makes people less inclined to stay home from work is quite depressing and illustrates why the system needs to change in the US.
Another great thread, this time by:
Very helpful thread. Surprising to hear about how affecting h1n1 was. At the end of the day hygiene is paramount and washing hands is front and center. It sounds so easy but it's just not something people do nearly enough of and even when they do so many just rinse under water and barely use any soap lol.
I'm glad MA passed a mandatory paid sick leave law a few years ago. It's not perfect but it helps.
Iran has closed schools and universities in most of the central provinces for at least a week but still nobody can get religious institution to close.
Akira (classic anime movie + comics):
The 2020 Tokyo Olympics Were Predicted 30 Years Ago by Akira
Cyberpunk manga Akira debuted in 1982—over thirty years ago. The manga, and subsequent anime, are set against the backdrop of the forthcoming 2020 Tokyo Olympics.
Damn I knew this.
Another great thread, this time by:
For some reason, I don't remember H1N1 at all (other than hearing about it a bit) despite being like...22 years old at the time lol. Did it not show up much in Canada?
Good thread. If this does break out worldwide, we just need to mitigate (wash your damn haaaaaands and use sanitizer). Hopefully mitigating it will allow time to get a vaccine going.
That's something that could be the deciding factor in my currently-planned trip to Japan in April. I have the flexibility to WFH in self-quarantine if I need to, but neither of the people I'm traveling with have that same option. Might just be waiting for the inevitable Level 3 CDC alert now to call it all off.
The entire point is that there are a lot of unknowns about this, saying we know definitely what the incubation period is not true. Or can you provide us with it broken down by the percentage of patients exhibiting symptoms each day?
I have a very distant memory of playing Lost Planet and hearing the news talking about it. It's weird 'cus I remember hearing about it a shit ton around that time but I don't recall any details.
Thanks. Couple of weeks ago I had a pretty bad case of flu. I hope that it was ncov-19 because it was much worse than normal flu, most people around me also got it and fortunately everybody got better.
Maybe you don't know, but I'll go with what people at WHO say. You know, the people who are experts in the field and spent decades in virology plus are studying Covid-19 full time since January?
If you want to go with what local clickbait news in Bumfuck, Texas claim over WHO, that's your choice. Just don't present it as an objective fact.
I feel like I didn't hear about it other than "yeah, H1N1", but maybe it's because I was in uni and was focused on that? 🤷🏻♀️
Kind of feels like this virus may run a similar course, now that I'm reading up on H1N1? Not sure. Let's get the vaccines goooooooing. 🙏
The difference to the H1N1 outbreak was there weren't social media at the time, so the panic did not spread so fast or so easily.
Yeah. That's definitely true.
(I'm in a constant state of slight panic over this because I can't stop reading about it haha. I do this to myself)
It's unsurprising and simultaneously frustrating that the outbreak could have been potentially much less worse had the local officials in Wutan been actually doing their jobs and trying to keep the public safe instead of being sycophantic yes-men to maintaining their position in the CCP by trying to maintain the illusion of nothing going wrong in their jurisdiction. (And I say 'potentially', considering the sheer size of both China and its population, a more urgent and more component response may not have actually helped all that much.) But people kinda predicted this shit would happen when Xi Jinping became undisputed central leader due to a party purges thanks to "anti-corruption campaigns" - ruling through fear to keep your subordinates in line is nice in the short-term, but when there are problems that actually need addressing, party sycopants are more interested in currying favor with the leader out of fear that if they report that something isn't absolutely perfect, they'll be purged like those before them, so by the time those problems are evident to the party leadership, they've already spiraled out of control.
In this case, you can see why nobody in charge of Wutan was particularly willing to start a public health panic over a potential virus that possibly originated in a sleazy exotic meat market. Considering the attempts to lock down spreading of 'rumors' by doctors, one can easily tell they were more interested in avoiding any social disruption than maintaining public health.
In this case, you can see why nobody in charge of Wutan was particularly willing to start a public health panic over a potential virus that possibly originated in a sleazy exotic meat market. Considering the attempts to lock down spreading of 'rumors' by doctors, one can easily tell they were more interested in avoiding any social disruption than maintaining public health.
So, today a couple people were found out to have the virus in my province.
During the day I got messages from people in Milano afraid of people coming from outside to work and study, and then the first case in Milano was revealed, Torino too.
Currently at work and people are canceling their trips, mostly because "I know a person from [my city] and she/he said you're quarantined". It's hard to explain that I'm literally in the city, literally at work and for now we're not rotting in the streets.
Also, I went to buy some groceries and the cashiers were saying to each other that the number of people was even higher than before Christmas. Could be a joke but the shelves were being refilled constantly by many workers and some had their carts full of tinned meat and bottled water, ngl it looked kinda stupid but here we are.
Now the government is about to release some kind of decision, most schools already chose to close down shop for the next week.
During the day I got messages from people in Milano afraid of people coming from outside to work and study, and then the first case in Milano was revealed, Torino too.
Currently at work and people are canceling their trips, mostly because "I know a person from [my city] and she/he said you're quarantined". It's hard to explain that I'm literally in the city, literally at work and for now we're not rotting in the streets.
Also, I went to buy some groceries and the cashiers were saying to each other that the number of people was even higher than before Christmas. Could be a joke but the shelves were being refilled constantly by many workers and some had their carts full of tinned meat and bottled water, ngl it looked kinda stupid but here we are.
Now the government is about to release some kind of decision, most schools already chose to close down shop for the next week.
It infected about 10% of the population in Canada.
2009 swine flu pandemic in Canada - Wikipedia
IIRC it was mostly called swine flu in the media, so that's why you might not remember it. Also, the fact that it started in North America made the media coverage way more responsible than it is right now.
Though there was still a ton of fear mongering for profit, especially around vaccine availability.
So, the italian government is going all in.
Journalist Enrico Mentana (one of the most reliable sources in Italy) said that the government is going to put the """infected""" areas in quarantenne for two weeks. The announcement is expected in a matter of minutes/hours.
On the good news side: the Spallanzani hospital in Rome succesfully recovered two patients out of three from Coronavirus. The third one, a chinese woman, is getting better and she's expected to be fully recovered soon. The italian medicine is a world class excellence in this aspect.
Journalist Enrico Mentana (one of the most reliable sources in Italy) said that the government is going to put the """infected""" areas in quarantenne for two weeks. The announcement is expected in a matter of minutes/hours.
On the good news side: the Spallanzani hospital in Rome succesfully recovered two patients out of three from Coronavirus. The third one, a chinese woman, is getting better and she's expected to be fully recovered soon. The italian medicine is a world class excellence in this aspect.
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Yeah, it seems like the time for "voluntary quarantine" is over. Fun times ahead if Milano gets hit with higher numbers, that'll be hard to contain seeing how people are freaking out
PS: government is looking into how to keep paying people asked to stay at home, probably treating it as cassa integrazione (the money you get when your workplace closes for monetary problems). Huge step in keeping people mentally stable and away from danger.
I remember H1N1 pretty well, one of my friends had it and went through hell.
No social media at the time didn't make the difference people think it did because at the time at least here watching TV was still common, so the news were all about that, all day long.
No social media at the time didn't make the difference people think it did because at the time at least here watching TV was still common, so the news were all about that, all day long.
The situations is serious and of course serious counter measures are needed.
The bad (but also good) thing is that you really understand that something is serious only when it is near you. I say it is good because this way not everyone over reacts. For example, before yesterday, there wasn't panic about Coronavirus in Italy. I say bad because, when it comes, it is so sudden that you don't know what will happen. At least, in my case it is the first time I see such a situation here.
It was known as the "Swine Flu" in europe. However, H1N1 viruses were often causes for great pandemics like the spanish flu.
I remember the swine flu (h1n1) being quite terryfing here in Italy, but I was like 16 and can't say for sure. This is much more worrying though the death rate is in line with the 2009 pandemic if I'm not mistaken. Maybe being in contact with the news 24/7 is really throwing a lot of people into panic.
I was 14 years old at the time too, so of course I can't compare it easily to now.
In the meantime, I got a (not official) confirmation that also universities in Turin will be closed at least until 25th February, with the possibility to extend to the full week.
My wife's a nurse so she's drilled into me good washing technique. But since all this kicked off I've noticed just how many gross assholes don't wash/give their hands just a quick rinse in public toilets.
Haha same here. Wife's a nurse and I am always washing my hands. Not obsessively of course but I do it many times a day.
Ultra fuckin YIKES.
And damn, everytime Garchia3.0 posts something, I just know it's gonna be extra bad news haha.
It infected about 10% of the population in Canada.
2009 swine flu pandemic in Canada - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
IIRC it was mostly called swine flu in the media, so that's why you might not remember it. Also, the fact that it started in North America made the media coverage way more responsible than it is right now.
Though there was still a ton of fear mongering for profit, especially around vaccine availability.
I mean, I heard it in passing, both swine flu and H1N1, but didn't know it was so widespread. I probably just wasn't connected much to the news in those days 🤔
If it runs the same course as H1N1 then it'll be widespread across america in 2030 and most people will catch it at some point in their lives, since H1N1 is doing huge damage across america this flu season (it's Flu Type A this season) in 2019/2020 a decade after it started. I didn't hear much about H1N1 in 2009 when it first happened, but I caught it this month and it was hell but I survived.
LOL! I just try to post what I consider to be the most relevant (verified) news. It's just particularly bad recently because of the sudden change in tides.
29 cases, 6 deaths in Iran. Hopefully the mortality rate isn't higher than we've been led to believe.
www.reuters.com
Ten new cases of coronavirus in Iran, two dead: officials
Authorities in Iran on Saturday announced the detection of at least 10 new cases of coronavirus and two more deaths, deepening a sense of public unease over the handling of the spread of the disease.
www.reuters.com
Not an expert, but if I had to guess, Iran probably has a lot of milder / earlier-stage cases that haven't been detected or publicly reported yet, so that 29 cases number is probably low.29 cases, 6 deaths in Iran. Hopefully the mortality rate isn't higher than we've been led to believe.
Ten new cases of coronavirus in Iran, two dead: officials
Authorities in Iran on Saturday announced the detection of at least 10 new cases of coronavirus and two more deaths, deepening a sense of public unease over the handling of the spread of the disease.
It was a flight from Tell Aviv to Seoul, and he's currently in Beijing.
This is the article this tweet is based on
Likelihood of Israeli infected with coronavirus has 'risen significantly'
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that he would hold a meeting about the coronavirus in the Health Ministry's "war room" on Sunday morning.
m.jpost.com
That account is mostly a news aggregator, which is fine, but it has the habit of not linking their sources which is less than ideal.
Where are most of the SK cases concentrated? Because I have a layover in Incheon on my trip next month.
My boyfriend and I are visiting his aunt this weekend and she just tested positive for H1N1 this afternoon. 😐 I don't think most people realize how widespread it is now. I think it's included in each year's flu vaccine. Glad you're feeling better; my sister had it two weeks ago and felt absolutely horrible for a while.
I'm dying:
www.wcvb.com
Shut the fuck up Marty. They didn't cancel because they fear that Boston is a hotbed or some shit. They are worried about the myriad of international visitors as well as travelers at the many airports their employees will need to go through to get to Boston.
Boston mayor formally asks Sony to reconsider pulling out of PAX East
Mayor Marty Walsh sent a letter to Sony's president and CEO after the entertainment giant pulled out of the gaming showcase over coronavirus concerns.
www.wcvb.com
Shut the fuck up Marty. They didn't cancel because they fear that Boston is a hotbed or some shit. They are worried about the myriad of international visitors as well as travelers at the many airports their employees will need to go through to get to Boston.
No reported cases in the Netherlands yet, but some people from the Westerdam boat were allowed to enter Amsterdam without a health screening afaik. Reporting seems mixed, but Germany has been steady at around 15 infected and belgium had 1, so I'm hoping the incursion into Europe isn't any further. I live in Maastricht so I'm right at both the Belgian and German borders so I've been a little paranoid as of late.
The thing with Iran is it's very likely they have more then 29 cases. For there to be six deaths already, the virus would have had to have been around for weeks, maybe a month. Following the cases, you don't die from this quickly. It takes at least a week, usually two-three.
So, prime minister Giuseppe Conte in Italy announced a two-weeks quarantine for the areas where the virus is spreading. They're even delaying any events taking place in Lombardia region in the next days (like three big soccer matches).
Mild measures will be taken all over Italy, like limiting school trips and events with a lot of people.
Honestly, I think this is the right way to go. It won't stop the virus, but it will surely slow it down and this is the most important thing now.
Mild measures will be taken all over Italy, like limiting school trips and events with a lot of people.
Honestly, I think this is the right way to go. It won't stop the virus, but it will surely slow it down and this is the most important thing now.
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