Water and soap are still king, but there's been articles posted here that hand sanitizer is effective against this. Better than nothing until you can get to a sink.
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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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First confirmed case in Milan:
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“NEW: Italy reports 7 more cases of coronavirus, including the first case in Milan https://t.co/eUoE2b20hL”
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A series of unfortunate circumstances happened. A man returned from China, totally asympthomatic, passed it to a friend of him during a dinner. This friend is socially active, both in his free time and work, so he passed it to a large number of other peoples. And when he was found out, he was just the tip of the icerberg.
Now I just received the news that in Turin the rector of the university where I work is considering to close the university until Wednesday, alongside with other two universities in Piemonte.
There are international humanitarian bodies working in North Korea, including in the healthcare sector.
Obviously, North Korea can decide to kick them out at any point, but right now, what prevent more international aid is the sanctions, which is why the red cross is asking for an exemption.
Oh yeah, they are. From the multiple protests and it's casualties to the low participation rate in last week's election (despite what the mullahs say). The overall condition of the country is better described as FUBAR.
And get this, one of the higher-ups in Tehran municipality is suspected to be infected and at least one the people who are in contact with this guy has had a meeting with J. Zarif the foreign minister of IR recently. So things are going to be interesting in the next couple of weeks.
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Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, especially after going to the bathroom; before eating; and after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing.
If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty.
59 in Italy so far.
First case in Milan
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First case in Milan
Coronavirus: crescono i contagi al Nord - Salute & Benessere
33 ricoverati, 18 in terapia intensiva. crescono i contagi al Nord, due casi a Milano, uno a Torino. Due i decessi. Sono stabili le condizioni del 'paziente 1', il 38enne positivo al Coronavirus ricoverato al Civico di Codogno (Lodi). (ANSA)
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Patient zero never had the COVID-19.
"Quanto al presunto "paziente zero", il manager di ritorno dalla Cina, si è scoperto che non ha mail avuto il coronavirus. Dai test effettuati sull'amico del 38enne di Codogno (il paziente 1) che era stato a cena con lui dopo esser tornato dalla Cina, "è emerso che non ha sviluppato gli anticorpi", ha spiegato in serata il viceministro della Salute Pierpaolo Sileri. "L'uomo era già risultato negativo al primo test per il coronavirus. Dunque, non è partita da lui la diffusione del virus nel lodigiano."
Coronavirus: salgono a due le vittime italiane, 76 contagiati, casi a Milano e Torino
Oggi è deceduta una donna di 75 anni di Casalpusterlengo. E il presunto paziente zero di Codogno si scopre che non ha mai avuto il virus
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Patient zero never had the COVID-19.
"Quanto al presunto "paziente zero", il manager di ritorno dalla Cina, si è scoperto che non ha mail avuto il coronavirus. Dai test effettuati sull'amico del 38enne di Codogno (il paziente 1) che era stato a cena con lui dopo esser tornato dalla Cina, "è emerso che non ha sviluppato gli anticorpi", ha spiegato in serata il viceministro della Salute Pierpaolo Sileri. "L'uomo era già risultato negativo al primo test per il coronavirus. Dunque, non è partita da lui la diffusione del virus nel lodigiano."
Coronavirus: salgono a due le vittime italiane, 76 contagiati, casi a Milano e Torino
Oggi è deceduta una donna di 75 anni di Casalpusterlengo. E il presunto paziente zero di Codogno si scopre che non ha mai avuto il virus
Yes I have listened it to the newscast just now. At this point, who is "patient zero"? The "patient one", for the Lombardia's cases, is the 38-year-old man, but at this point no one knows how he got it and it becomes even more difficult to identify all the subjects in risk.
Literally means nothing at this stage.
EDIT: Updated. Apologies if I triggered anyone; was not my intent.
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I haven't seen this reported elsewhere yet (maybe I missed it?), but it looks like the CDC raised the Japan travel alert level to level 2:
Same with South Korea:
Japan - Traveler view | Travelers' Health | CDC
Official U.S. government health recommendations for traveling. Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
wwwnc.cdc.gov
Same with South Korea:
South Korea - Traveler view | Travelers' Health | CDC
Official U.S. government health recommendations for traveling. Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
wwwnc.cdc.gov
How is shit like this not bannable under the discussion rules
Wow man. That escalated pretty damn quickly. It was set to Level 1 just a couple of days ago. Thanks for sharing.
Japan:
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For what it's worth, Japan was already at level 2 for that Rubella outbreak in January. I'm just surprised that they don't have anything for Italy or Iran at all yet, but that's been moving fast in the last 24 hours.Wow man. That escalated pretty damn quickly. It was set to Level 1 just a couple of days ago. Thanks for sharing.
What did I say? Seriously asking. I'm not fear mongering—it's simple math. Unknown incubation+R0+time.
Sure, though there's a caveat: we can effectively get vaccinated against Rubella. Again, thank you for sharing that update. None of us saw that coming.
Btw, I just went to check and you're right: there's no warning for Iran or Italy yet. I suppose they're going to address that later?
Yeah but rubella has a widely-available vaccine. That alert would only apply to people who cannot get the vaccine for health reasons or stupid anti-vaxxers.
This alert applies to all.
It doesn't have unknown incubation or R0, that's for one.
But it's how you worded it, yelling "it cannot be stopped, we all gonna die" helps nothing and no one. Multiple people ITT expressed anxiety, I understand the news are predominantly not good, but if you have nothing else than panicked screaming to share, maybe practice a bit of restraint?
There was a piece about this on NPR about a week ago, saying that even as North Korea is announcing that they have no coronavirus and never will because of The Great Leader etc., South Korean doctors who maintain a back channel with North Korean doctors have been getting requests for supplies, without explanation, that suggest that the coronavirus is already in NK or that they expect an outbreak to be imminent.
Here are so many posts like that. The only lasting thing will be this topic, with probably 99.9% users unaffected by the whole story. Maybe some can look back in the future and keep their upcoming posts in check. But... I had the same hope after the WW3-topic and look how this topic here turned out.
It's speculated, and it pushed China for massive disposal and disinfection of paper money (not plastic).
Stop fucking tone policing, you've been doing this for a long time now, that's enough.
I was able to view it? May as well still have the link up while trying to find another source.
Well I mean you could Google it or visit the WHO site yourself, but sure, here you go (and it has links to relevant resources for all the info, too):
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-incubation-period/
Wow man. That escalated pretty damn quickly. It was set to Level 1 just a couple of days ago. Thanks for sharing.
Japan:
I honestly expect Japan to go to Level 3 within two weeks.
The absolutely horrid way they have handled the disembarkation of the Diamond Princess means there's a good possibility. This is why I'm waiting to cancel my shit. If it's level 3 I should not be out anything.
Mathematical modelling of epidemics is anything but simple, and considering you are arriving at a conclusion which is very different than pretty much every expert in the field, maybe you should talk with slightly less confidence.
I don't think it's tone policing to point out that saying things like - "By summer, COVID we be everywhere; there is no stopping it" is not the most responsible thing to do right now.
The WHO says
The CDC says
And yet China says
That does not seem like the incubation period is known to me.
Burying your head in the sand will help with jack shit either. I remember people in this thread early on cheering that they would get cheaper flights to Japan due to the "hysteria", how did that go?
All the dumbasses comparing this to the regular flu too, when it was clear that we weren't dealing with the same thing.
They don't contradict each other, no, because the Chinese cases are like one in a thousand or even less likely. It's extreme of the extreme.
I never said anything about death, nor was I panicking. Thus far, COVID hasn't shown itself to be the kind of killer virus you've insinuated I made it out to be—I did nothing of the sort, and I apologize if it read that way. I've edited my original message.
That's because you don't know what "outlier" means, perhaps.
What part of my post do you think constitutes "burying my head in the sand"?
I am pretty sure I didn't mention Japan or the regular flu.
So what percentage of cases are these outliers?
It almost like this is a new virus with lots of unknowns. 1 out of 6 is not much of an outlier.
2 studies of coronavirus patients suggest the disease's incubation period could be longer than the standard quarantine period of 14 days
The novel coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China, has killed at least 2,250 people and infected more than 76,000 people in about eight weeks.
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