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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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I don't get it, how does the virus stay alive that money needs to be isolated for 14 days....
This times a thousand. What was posted on the last page has literally zero context and serves zero purpose.
Are you guys referencing my twitter video I posted? If so, I have two points I'd like to make:
1. That's not the only video of people on the ground like that, but I'm not going to gather all the videos I've seen over the past week. You can look for them yourselves.
2. Where's an official source I can get information about what's really happening in China?
People don't suddenly drop dead from the flu. This is probably someone had a heart attack or seizure and gets slapped with some coronavirus hashtags.
User Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory Whataboutism
Yup. Good comeback. And Mr Polymath should think about the atrocities the US commits every single day. If he can't thinking any... Enough said
Official is Xidada's word, backed by Trump. Official is not really useful.
Try using some legit news sites, random twitters are usually not as helpful
Official is Xidada's word, backed by Trump. Official is not really useful.
Try using some legit news sites, random twitters are usually not as helpful
While I agree getting news from legit news sources is the best I don't assume they'll cover everything. Two users asked for I link I simply provided them with one. It's up to them to use logical reasoning to draw their own conclusions.
Nice whataboutism and also I don't live in the US :)
Hopefully the situation won't escalate much further. Both for the sake of people getting sick, but also for the sake of global economy. Having hundreds of millions of people under some sort of travel/movement restrictions or quarantine will be a huge shock if it continues any length of time.
Alright, no more twitter videos from me. I hadn't actually read that message.
As to the validity of the videos on twitter I guess we'll all have to independently judge whether to believe them or not. In my case, I do just due to the sheer amount of them, e.g. "apparently" China has been wielding people into their apartments to the point they run out of food and I've seen a twitter video of a woman falling to her death trying to escape. I have been waiting for this to break on reputable news sites but not a peep. Should I then categorize it as fake news?
As to the validity of the videos on twitter I guess we'll all have to independently judge whether to believe them or not. In my case, I do just due to the sheer amount of them, e.g. "apparently" China has been wielding people into their apartments to the point they run out of food and I've seen a twitter video of a woman falling to her death trying to escape. I have been waiting for this to break on reputable news sites but not a peep. Should I then categorize it as fake news?
Almost any crisis these days attracts misrepresented, mislabeled, mistaken, and fake videos all over social media by the hundreds. There's so much disinformation out there that it'll be impossible (again) to verify what's actually real until later. Ya'll can be better.
Calling out embarrassing misinformed posts like yours is not fear mongering. Get a grip
Seems like that. I mean I can tell you that my friends in China are not "locked into" homes and can still go out to buy food. There are also enough apps to deliver food and waimai meituan (something like Ubereats or similar) are still operating, so you can order food. Now I dont really think that an old coworker of mine (German in Wuhan) is lying to me....
What is actually happening is most communities are "locked down" as such as when you want to get out of the community and back in, you are screened for higher temperature, washed with disinfectants and can then return. You can not drive out with your car unless there are special circumstances.
Now I am currently not in China, so I can not confirm if any of that is true. I only know things from friends living there and what they are telling me.
Dunno. Longest I heard was four day lifespan on solid surfaces.
I read on the Guardian that it's unknown at this point, and various viruses range in survival from hours to months.
What's the logic with putting that money into quarantine for 14 days? I thought the virus couldn't survive that long on surfaces.
It's cool if he graduated from his "there are probably 200 times more cases than reported and oh i pulled this number out of my ass" to posting sources, so that's cool.
Fortunately he's in my ignore since like a week ago so I wouldn't really know.
Does not make sense, as wont people just start thinking the virus moves way differently than it actually does? Unless they want to look strong on measures to protect the public, but overriding the facts just causes worry and overreaction.
Might be some sort of economic benefit to locking down currency? Thats the only way I see why China would be fine doing this unless everything we know about the virus is wrong and thats just dumb to think China would do that.
The economic repercussions of this on China cannot be understated. I wouldn't put these measures as real concern and more just over caution in an attempt to instill confidence.
Supposedly survives up to 5 days on surfaces now.
Most of the bigger cities use phone QR/NFC as payment, but the smaller cities/villages and tourist/travellers still use cash.
The Chinese government is most likely facing its biggest challenge it has faced from public opinion in decades and I imagine it is very important for the government to protect its image as a seemingly credible force to protect the safety of the public both within China and outside it. These drastic actions are probably more for appearances of taking decisive actions to contain the virus rather than the scientific merits of the actions. That is what I think at least.
I don't know, some of us were lectured earlier in the thread for doubting this thing's quality.
If anyone is wondering what clavens sad and pathetic shitposting is about. He apparently takes issue with the fact that pretty much everybody has said that China has underreported their counts.
Underreported numbers
CDC
Honesty I could go on and on. I'd prefer to take my information from expert sources rather than random forum posters
Bad source, it's misrepresenting what the CDC spokesperson is saying. She's saying that the numbers are an underestimation - a well known fact that no one denies - not that China is lying.
EDIT: The CCN source that is. You'll have to time stamp the video, I'm not going to scan 10 min + for the quote.
Yeah, that checks out big time. This will be the government's biggest challenge in terms of political optics possibly ever
I was thinking the same thing recently. An elderly person who has no friends or family won't have anyone to help them with food/ medicine and they might not have a mobile phone.
Probably makes sense. Unless they can figure out how that women managed to contract it. Otherwise the ship is going to end up in the same situation and nobody will allow it to dock
Hopefully the new virus will goes down in new cases in 6 to 8 months just like the sars virus
Which viruses survive months on surface? Certainly not cold/flu viruses
I honestly think it'll be cruises worldwide. People in the so-far-untouched West are still freaking out and imagining the virus everywhere. Why would they book any cruise?
Yeah, I was going to be more nuanced. I think it'll be down a fair bit worldwide, but especially in Asia.
Entire Asia tourist industry will be massively down, let alone cruises.
Agreed all round.
An economist specialising in Asia was on the BBC World Service the other day (HIGHLY recommend that as a fairly unbiased, consistent news source).
She was saying China makes up like 20% of the world economy and many of its industries are down like 30%... None of these were tourism, which I'm sure will be... Rekt.
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There are multiple people in this thread that live in China, including myself that are stating that people are not falling down in the streets or jumping out of buildings in fear. It's life as normal for 99.9999% of people not in Wuhan. At the end of the day people just have to go about their lives with whatever cautions they can accept.
A local woman fears she and others on a cruise ship were cleared of the coronavirus prematurely - CHCH
News - Coronavirus, cruise ship, st catharines, Tammy Hamilton, Westerdam cruise liner
www.chch.com
ruh-roh
- no text, just a video of a woman on the cruise
- tl;dw Cambodian authorities fast-tracked everyone off the ship
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I agree with the sentiment, but it's not 'life as normal', at least in Shanghai and Beijing. Most everything is closed except essentials. Many white collar offices are closed or operate on working from home. And many residential communities are operating on a 'ticket' systems for residents. Not a huge deal, but let's not sweep some of the restraints under the rug. This will be a big deal going forward for so many industries.
Sure, I get that. But for me, everything that I need is open, food delivery, bars, grocers, convenience stores, etc. It doesn't bother me that I need a ticket to leave my complex yet, it's just a formality it's not like I can't come and go as I want. Most of this is just "theatre", and until it really starts to effect my daily life I, and I think most people just shrug it off and life is slightly changed but not difficult yet. Some random plastic factory being closed doesn't change my day to day life.
my hometown have less than < 10000 ppl.
Everyone use wepay and alipay.
You can use cash, but even small street food seller use wepay .
It's mostly turist, since they rescricted wepay and alipay to people who own a chinese bank card.
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