Really hoping this is not true as that would be really fucking bad.
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Really hoping this is not true as that would be really fucking bad.
I live in a metropolis and the air here is the same as smoking 4 cigarettes per day.
Never smoked myself but it wouldn't matter.
But... isn't that already what's going on? Transmission through the air?
Doesn't aerosol mean it can survive moving long distances through the air? Maybe I'm just getting my definitions wrong.
Look at that graph (it's out of date by a few days, now above the SARS peak).
I found a more recent one:
i feel like people were saying the same thing...a week or two ago. canada's first confirmed case was ill and coughing on his flight home wuhan, coming into contact with several people on the plane, the airport, and in his family. it has been almost 3 weeks since then and nothing hit hard.
That curve isn't looking pretty...
Maybe an obvious reminder, but all I can recommend is to use alcohol gel / hand sanitizer when outside, keep rooms ventilated, and clean commonly used items, handles etc.
According to the wiki page on the outbreak (updated fairly regularly), the % of new cases relative to the current number of infections has been steadily going down for some time.
Ofc, it might just be the health care getting overloaded, but still, if you're desperate for good news, that's something.
I mean, we went from 173 infected outside China to 354 in a week. It more than doubled, it's not dying down.
Those are the cruise ships padding the numbers tbh.
The cases on land aren't climbing very fast, so far (most countries outside Asia still in single digits after a week)
Sure, but people here keep talking like we're going to have 200+ confirmed cases in the states "any day now!!", which is the point of ItIsOkBro's post.
So it's airborne transmitted now.
So far it's just been droplet transmission.
If it's airborne then way more people are infected/going to get infected.
I'm surprised this isn't headline news.
Maybe because it's unconfirmed/clickbait/etc
I wouldn't worry until more sources come up with this news.
Literally. That fucking sucks for the passengers. There has to be a better way.
Aerosol is tiny droplet that get suspended in air. I believe they can only stay at air for a limited time and travel a short distance. So more infectious than simply droplet but not something that can travel very far. I think if there is a carrier cough in a room and you go in an hour later, chances are you will be fine unless you lick the floor.
Also don't forget the further the droplet travel, the more it gets diluted but a factor of 2.
Also don't forget the further the droplet travel, the more it gets diluted but a factor of 2.
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At a certain point you can't just keep stuff shut down forever. You are going to have to teach the public to be vigilant but go on with their daily lives. Workplaces and factories need to re-open or the economic consequences will be catastrophic. There is already a huge hit
What happens in a business when one person is identified as having the virus?
Pretty worried about this. As someone immune suppressed, been watching it closely and being even more careful than always using sanitizer, not touching face, etc...good hygenie.
...and I got the flu and almost died over the last 3 days all while taking those precautions (still not over, but hopefully worst has past). So it basically tells me that if this gets out here in So CA, there's a decent chance I'll get it and it'll kill me no matter what.
Also I work at a family business and my whole family got the flu and is trying to survive it. I'm pretty worried something like this would wipe out half or more of our family if it spreads. My parents are elderly and I'm immune suppressed. It's scary.
...and I got the flu and almost died over the last 3 days all while taking those precautions (still not over, but hopefully worst has past). So it basically tells me that if this gets out here in So CA, there's a decent chance I'll get it and it'll kill me no matter what.
Also I work at a family business and my whole family got the flu and is trying to survive it. I'm pretty worried something like this would wipe out half or more of our family if it spreads. My parents are elderly and I'm immune suppressed. It's scary.
COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
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Look at the log scale
Crew Member Dies for Unrelated Reasons on Virus-Delayed Cruise Ship: Sources
A crew member on a cruise ship that was delayed in New Jersey after more than two dozen of its passengers were screened for the coronavirus was found dead on the ship due to what appears to be an unrelated cause, law enforcement sources say. More than two dozen Chinese nationals traveling...
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I wouldn't read much into that. They may not be able to test more cases. It's spreading and if it makes it globally a lot of people are going to die. We need a vaccine asap if we hope to stop this from becoming seasonal like the flu.
BNO Newsroom on Twitter
“Several more people have fallen ill on the cruise ship near Tokyo and will be taken to hospital; the cause is not yet known but dozens will be tested for coronavirus - NHK”
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Funnily enough research just found that literally weeks after quitting your lungs regenerate rapidly almost to youth levels
Best thing you can do it be prepared and be informed.
Always get the flu shot. Ask your doctor is you are a candidate for a pneumonia vaccine.
Try to build up a stockpile of medications. You are actually eligible for refills every 3 weeks, keeping on top of that schedule will allow you to have a small surplus.
Government advised prep for pandemic.
Assess and revise your hygiene protocols, they are probably not strict enough since you got the flu from work (I'm assuming). Sometimes despite our best efforts it happens, but be really honest with yourself to see if there are ways you can improve.
I don't know why you are immunosuppressive, but if it's from medication discuss with your doctor a plan for alternative treatment in the event of a serious pandemic. They already tell you to call them ASAP if you get the flu or otherwise sick.
Start stockpiling non-perishable food now, that way you will be able to stay inside as much as possible when the infection waves roll through your area. I'm not saying go full prepper, but being able to minimize your contact with the public, both people and surfaces, during a wave will be your best bet.
As a person with a compromised immune system, you need to be taking measures above and beyond what a normal person would do.
Yeah there's gotta be a better way to do this or else this is going to go on for months with everyone getting infected.BNO Newsroom on Twitter
“Several more people have fallen ill on the cruise ship near Tokyo and will be taken to hospital; the cause is not yet known but dozens will be tested for coronavirus - NHK”
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Japan took the gamble that it wasn't airborne and it would be cheaper to quarantine at sea than on land.
Now it looks like they will have to hospitalize/treat/quarantine a couple thousand foreigners in Japan on land.
I highly doubt passengers in separate cabins are being infected through the air, it's that this is day 4 (IIRC) and there's a long incubation period.
If some of these new videos coming out are real they have also resorted to sealing people up in their homes.
gyms must be proper horror
All these hands touching and sharing all this equipment
The numbers in China outside Hubei have been going down since February 4
from what I can gather anyone can get infected with proximity
younger people tend to recover better
it tends to be more fatal for 60+, men, smokers
New study an eye-opener on how coronavirus is spreading and how little we know | CNN
A study published Friday in the medical journal JAMA found that 41% of the first 138 patients diagnosed at one hospital in Wuhan, China, were presumed to be infected in that hospital.
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41% of the first 138 patients diagnosed at one hospital were presumed to be infected in the hospital.
COVID Live - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
Look at the log scale
Yeah, it's slowing down slightly based on the log scale, but I'm just hoping these numbers are truly accurate.
Wuhan coronavirus gets a new official name
Another 89 people died in mainland China on Saturday, bringing the total death toll around the world to at least 813. View the latest coronavirus news here.
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