Yeah you can just sit it out like the flu, official numbers put it at over 1100 people who have recovered.Does the virus eventually go away on its own like the flu? I haven't been following this too much because it stresses me out. Does their need to be a a vaccine?
Cool thxYeah you can just sit it out like the flu, official numbers put it at over 1100 people who have recovered.
Officially:Yeah you can just sit it out like the flu, official numbers put it at over 1100 people who have recovered.
Tell that to the hundreds of people who died.Yeah you can just sit it out like the flu, official numbers put it at over 1100 people who have recovered.
It won't reach you and if it did you'll be fine. The very, very worst case is you'd have slightly damaged lungs from the pneumonia.I have a question about this. I am located in The Netherlands and so far it seems it hasn't been found here....yet. If it were to happen, should I go into "panic" mode, so to speak?
I'm asking this because I was told the virus isn't an immediate risk if your immune system is strong enough, if you're healthy and not older than 50. I myself am 37. That if it were to hit me it would be like a regular flu but only would last longer for me, is that true?
I probably don't even need to ask what this would mean for my stepfather who is terminally ill and is also a diabetic. :(
Official numbers so certainly somewhat lower than reality but the dashboard below has always been good to keep track of:
Total now - there are currently 30,811 confirmed cases worldwide, including 635 fatalities.
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
The table below shows cases of coronavirus (officially known as SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, or 2019-nCoV) around the world. Each figure is verified by our team through local health departments or local media. A distribution map and a timeline with a list of recent updates can be found below the table...bnonews.com
Those hundreds were very, very likely people over 65 and/or otherwise unwell.
Sorry, I found his post extremely irresponsible. People who have/think they have this virus need to be seen by medical professionals. They shouldn't just "wait it out." That's a great way to get vulnerable people critically ill or dead.I get this thread is emotional to a lot of people, but this shit is not necessary
Those hundreds were very, very likely people over 65 and/or otherwise unwell.
The mortality rate is lower than normal seasonal flu, currently.
At the very least, that's slightly fewer new cases than yesterday, right?
This isn't true. The mortality rate is 50 times the normal seasonal fluThose hundreds were very, very likely people over 65 and/or otherwise unwell.
The mortality rate is lower than normal seasonal flu, currently.
Official numbers so certainly somewhat lower than reality but the dashboard below has always been good to keep track of:
What? I thought flu was the same or slightly higher, like 3%?What? No. It's totally not the case. Mortality rate of coronavirus is much, much higher - around 2% currently.
There are much more people having flu but mortality rate is less than 0,1%
Right, I imagine I'm thinking of the wrong thing thenThis isn't true. The mortality rate is 50 times the normal seasonal flu
Sorry, I found his post extremely irresponsible. People who have/think they have this virus need to be seen by medical professionals. They shouldn't just "wait it out." That's a great way to get vulnerable people critically ill or dead.
Ok, but how does that contradict anything I said in the post you directly quoted?Pretty much every article and bit of news also says "a lot more people are likely infected with very mild symptoms and therefore go undiagnosed". That means that the CFR is likely much lower than the ~3% overall.
Don't quote me on this but don't these type of viruses not harm children as much because of their underdeveloped immune system? I thought it was the case for SARS.This is a lot scarier with children.
I'm not usually the type to panic, but Coronavirus has got me feeling on edge.
Ah fair, read it too literally my bad!Yes, I know, but my reaction was to the "tELL thAt to tHE hUNdReDs..."
To compare with the flu (US only)
From the CDC US:
Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2018–2019 Flu Season | CDC
CDC calculates estimates of disease burden in the United States using surveillance data and modeling to adjust for sources of under-detection. Burden estimates for the 2018-2019 season found here.www.cdc.gov
For all ages:
Symptomatic Illness - 35,520,883
Medical Visits - 16,520,350
Hospitalizations - 490,561
Deaths - 34,157
The issue is that nCoV-2019 is still unknown. No one knows if it will become more deadly or weaken by mutation. It also has a much longer delay in symptoms; people can get pneumonia 1-2 weeks in after feeling better. Its also a lot more contagious then the flu at this point in time.
For elderly aged 65 and above, it is still very common for them—about 57 %—to live with their children, including grandchildren.
Even though probably not all flu deaths are after hospitalization, this would put the CFR of flu at nearly 7% of hospitalized cases.
Yup. Great idea to "just sit it out" when you're at risk of getting grandma and other family members infected and killed.Its been 9 years so maybe its shifted a lot but don't like most elderly in China reside in a household including adults? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40711-015-0011-0#Sec13
By contrast, this Pew article and graph show a differing picture in the U.S:
Saying "It only affects people with preexisting health issues and the elderly" aside from the fact it targets the most vulnerable and less capable to fight it off economically and health-wise, I fear like is also ignoring the fact most elderly still reside in households with younger more able people, i.e yeah, mild fiu for healthy adults except when it transfers around the house.
Total now - there are currently *30,811 confirmed cases worldwide, including *635 fatalities.
Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline
The table below shows cases of coronavirus (officially known as SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, or 2019-nCoV) around the world. Each figure is verified by our team through local health departments or local media. A distribution map and a timeline with a list of recent updates can be found below the table...bnonews.com
Nobody is saying that, simply that the only people at a realistic risk of death or health catastrophe are the old and infirmIts been 9 years so maybe its shifted a lot but don't like most elderly in China reside in a household including adults? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s40711-015-0011-0#Sec13
By contrast, this Pew article and graph show a differing picture in the U.S:
Saying "It only affects people with preexisting health issues and the elderly" aside from the fact it targets the most vulnerable and less capable to fight it off economically and health-wise, I fear like is also ignoring the fact most elderly still reside in households with younger more able people, i.e yeah, mild fiu for healthy adults except when it transfers around the house.
Rumour mill is swirling in N.Ireland about a potential Mother+Baby case in Derry!
I don't think it's bad for kids at allThis is a lot scarier with children.
I'm not usually the type to panic, but Coronavirus has got me feeling on edge.
I get this thread is emotional to a lot of people, but this shit is not necessary
You should "sit out" the flu either if you are at risk.Yeah. Seems rather dismissive of the thousands who die of the flu every year frankly
Isn't the middle-aged, healthy doctor who initially identified it now one of the confirmed fatalities?Nobody is saying that, simply that the only people at a realistic risk of death or health catastrophe are the old and infirm
Saying that doesn't handwave a single thing you said
Isn't the middle-aged, healthy doctor who initially identified it now one of the confirmed fatalities?
Isn't the middle-aged, healthy doctor who initially identified it now one of the confirmed fatalities?
no? he was at the epicenter of the outbreak, likely worked til exhaustion with all the patients. Not everything is a conspiracyAnyone else find it suspicious that the doctor who whistle blew. Has now died of the virus
State secret? Secret to whom? Everyone in Xinjiang knows about it. Everyone knows it's spreading.
Really don't understand what you mean.
Do you have a source? I haven't seen that reported here, and it's a fairly major news topic right now.Only case we're aware of like that, yes.
As I said on the last page, some of these doctors have died from exhaustion. Not even infected. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy had practically worked himself to death before he started getting really sick.
Do you have a source? I haven't seen that reported here, and it's a fairly major news topic right now.
No I meant a source for the claim that doctors were dying of exhaustion.