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low-G

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sounds like all this panic will do more harm than the actual virus itself. We might have an economic slowdown later this year from the halting of Chinese economic activity.

I think in the end this will help prepare the world for something far worse, which will inevitably happen.
 

elty

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Oct 31, 2017
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Hong Kong will quarantine everyone arrives from China for 14 days.

Taiwan will quarantine everyone arrives from China, Hong Kong and Macau for 14 days.

Canada should follow.
 
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elty

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where do they put people who are quarantined? in hospitals?

As with everything HK do, no detail available since they probably don't know themselves. They still have no idea how to deal with people who lied about the travel history.

I think some researcher was floating the idea of using a electronic wrist band to ensure they stay at home. It won't stop everyone but at least should greatly reduce the number of people running around I think...
 

MasterChumly

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Oct 25, 2017
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yup most likely it will be like a typical seasonal flu since not all infected go down with severe symptoms like high fever and go unreported
One thing we do know for sure is it's not at all like the seasonal flu. The normal flu has a incredibly small death rate and very small complication rate. With Coronavirus we are seeing healthy people develop pneumonia which is why the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed in China
 
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One thing we do know for sure is it's not at all like the seasonal flu. The normal flu has a incredibly small death rate and very small complication rate. With Coronavirus we are seeing healthy people develop pneumonia which is why the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed in China
As someone who gets complications from the common cold (bronchitis, usually, thanks to asthma) this is the part that worries me. Not freaking out yet because it's not spreading in the US, for now, but if it starts to I'm going to be very careful. I really feel for other adults and kids who have asthma.
 

DrJamesOxford

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If you think WHO is out to help you but Trump is out to destroy you - you don't understand politics
Spoiler - the RICH will help the RICH - the POOR will suffer
 

Pomerlaw

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Well that is expected. These drugs are still in the testing phase, so the WHO jobs is to warn people not to get complacent and stay with the evidence they have now. That doesn't mean the treatment is not promising for the future.

Why should I trust WHO?

Who do you trust? Twitter?

If you think WHO is out to help you but Trump is out to destroy you - you don't understand politics

wtf is that shit
 

CelestialAtom

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I know that everyone is tired of these questions, but I'm going to ask anyways: I am going to Japan in the beginning of April and am conflicted on whether or not to push it off a little more mainly due to the fact that I have Asthma. The way I see it, is since I'm 31 and have Asthma, the Coronavirus would be more aggressive for someone like myself, if I am viewing that correctly? I just want to make sure I'm not exaggerating my chances of dying with all of the negative headlines as of recent. I'm sure we will get this virus solved by that time, but in the extreme chance we don't and it does spread even more, I'm just trying to plan ahead.
 

Greenpaint

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There is no real motivation for UN (WHO) to lie. There is no profit in it for them, as UN in general has very little actual influence over people, countries and governments. By default you should trust the experts at UN.
 

darkwing

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I know that everyone is tired of these questions, but I'm going to ask anyways: I am going to Japan in the beginning of April and am conflicted on whether or not to push it off a little more mainly due to the fact that I have Asthma. The way I see it, is since I'm 31 and have Asthma, the Coronavirus would be more aggressive for someone like myself, if I am viewing that correctly? I just want to make sure I'm not exaggerating my chances of dying with all of the negative headlines as of recent. I'm sure we will get this virus solved by that time, but in the extreme chance we don't and it does spread even more, I'm just trying to plan ahead.

there is no widespread outbreak of the virus in Japan at the moment
 

i_am_ben

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Oct 27, 2017
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There is no real motivation for UN (WHO) to lie. There is no profit in it for them, as UN in general has very little actual influence over people, countries and governments. By default you should trust the experts at UN.

Also the UN and WHO is full of content specialists. Even if there was some nefarious conspiracy at the upper levels how could they silence all of the scientists and experts in the organisation?
 
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Due to low demand, United Airlines and American Airlines have decided to suspend flights to Hong Kong.

United said it would cease flying from San Francisco International to Hong Kong through Feb. 20, with the final flight departing San Francisco on Wednesday, and the final flight departing Hong Kong on Friday

American said Tuesday that it would suspend its flights to Hong Kong from Dallas-Fort Worth International and Los Angeles International through Feb. 20, also citing demand.


Also, 4 more cases in Singapore including a 6 - month old infant.

 

Dyno

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Oct 25, 2017
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No, I know that, but I'm saying if it were to spread by that time (hypothetically speaking), would someone like myself be at a greater risk due to having Asthma?

It's safe to assume that you would. Coronavirus sets deep in the lungs and the possible pneumonia would be a concern too I'd imagine. You may not be any more prone to catching it, but you'd likely be at an increased risk from the side effects.
 
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I know that everyone is tired of these questions, but I'm going to ask anyways: I am going to Japan in the beginning of April and am conflicted on whether or not to push it off a little more mainly due to the fact that I have Asthma. The way I see it, is since I'm 31 and have Asthma, the Coronavirus would be more aggressive for someone like myself, if I am viewing that correctly? I just want to make sure I'm not exaggerating my chances of dying with all of the negative headlines as of recent. I'm sure we will get this virus solved by that time, but in the extreme chance we don't and it does spread even more, I'm just trying to plan ahead.

Can you rebook at a later time?

There is one statistical estimate from a Medical Dean from a Hong Kong University that says it peaks in a week or so, another source says it peaks in April. But these are statistical in nature, so if anything changes then they become obsolete fast.

Right now everyone is still in the learning phase, so a lot can change. If things dont get better in a week or so then check sources again.

I have the same problem right now. I have a trip to Hong Kong of all places in March. So I have rebooking insurance on my flight, so its easier to just change the plans later in the month.
 

Skai

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Oct 27, 2017
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The mortality rate definitely will keep lowering as more and more people don't get properly diagnosed with nCoV as they die at their homes or before getting to ICU. The situation in China is being drastically under reported.



I was reading that last night, about men in Wuhan being smokers and how that could be an important aspect of why this virus seems to be more aggressive towards men. So yes, having a weak respiratory system could lead to more serious complications and a much more aggressive pneumonia.

I read about this too. I'm sure being a chronic smoker and horrible air quality exasperates the seriousness.
 

CelestialAtom

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Can you rebook at a later time?

There is one statistical estimate from a Medical Dean from a Hong Kong University that says it peaks in a week or so, another source says it peaks in April. But these are statistical in nature, so if anything changes then they become obsolete fast.

Right now everyone is still in the learning phase, so a lot can change. If things dont get better in a week or so then check sources again.

I have the same problem right now. I have a trip to Hong Kong of all places in March. So I have rebooking insurance on my flight, so its easier to just change the plans later in the month.

I'll call the airline and figure out what it would cost to push it off to a later date, as I don't have any rebooking insurance added to mine.
 

elty

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Oct 31, 2017
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I think both cruise ship incidents will provide some good insight on how infectious is the new virus.
 

Arex

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I'll call the airline and figure out what it would cost to push it off to a later date, as I don't have any rebooking insurance added to mine.

I don't know, the death rate outside of Wuhan is currently much lower, so I wouldn't worry too much just yet, unless there is suddenly massive outbreak there. But maybe I'm just trying to calm myself because I also have a trip to Japan, in May lol
 

Ishmael

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is pretty near me so you know...that's...good. What's weird about this though is a local hospital has a state of the art quarantine center and they aren't taking them there? I don't really understand.


I'm in the neighborhood as well so I was a bit surprised at this announcement but once I gave it some thought it made perfect sense. Ashland is located near SAC so the folks going into quarantine could be flown in on a military plane and if anyone is infected they could be sent to UNMC right away.

Here I had been wondering how the US would handle quarantine cases. It turns out they're going to be put in a box for two weeks.
 

Calamari41

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Oct 25, 2017
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The "problem" with waiting for the WHO to give its blessing on things isn't that they have an agenda or are misinforming people, its that they often lag way behind because they wait for solid concrete finalized evidence. Like, with those experimental drugs, they're not saying that they DON'T work. They're saying that it hasn't been clinically proven that they work. That's a massive difference, and in a pandemic like this, you can't really wait for years of double blind peer reviewed studies before you start applying experimental medicine in the field.

Bottom line, it isn't out of line for people to be excited about stories like those, even if the WHO hasn't given them their final blessing yet.
 

CelestialAtom

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I don't know, the death rate outside of Wuhan is currently much lower, so I wouldn't worry too much just yet, unless there is suddenly massive outbreak there. But maybe I'm just trying to calm myself because I also have a trip to Japan, in May lol

Yeah, I'm wanting to go more than anything since this is my dream trip that I have always wanted to do since I was a kid and it was already approved by work, so I'm trying to be optimistic and think it's safe to go, but that previous article about the guy that just flew into Tokyo and developed a cough two days later has me a little bit spooked of getting it via being on a plane with others. Thankfully, it isn't an issue at all right now, but the worried side of me can't help by think about the "what if?".
 

Horo

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Nov 17, 2017
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Tencent might have accidentally leaked the "real" death/infections numbers instead of the "official" ones.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

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Mountain of salt obviously though.
 
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spam musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know, the death rate outside of Wuhan is currently much lower, so I wouldn't worry too much just yet, unless there is suddenly massive outbreak there. But maybe I'm just trying to calm myself because I also have a trip to Japan, in May lol

I don't think we can say the death rate outside of Wuhan is lower. There's just fewer cases. We have about 190 cases outside China now and 2 deaths so far. The number is too small to make a determination yet.


Tencent might have accidentally leaked the "real" death/infections numbers instead of the "official" ones.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

nFSRWsZ.jpg

Why would tencent have this info and how would someone with access to public facing services have it and why would they leak it? Use some critical thinking.
 

Dark Cloud

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just need to see how the US is looking by this weekend. If there's no known people to have it here I'll feel a little bit more safe to fly around (notice I didn't say that meant nobody in America has it).
 

Pwnz

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I've been stuck on a cruise ship an extra day due to harbor fog. Quickly things go sour - same activities and 3 movies are repeated. Same food, no sun or excursions. It quickly goes from a fun vacation to a prison.
 

Beer Monkey

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Oct 30, 2017
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One of my two employees is flying back today, a week early, because she's worried about getting stuck in quarantine or literally just stuck in China. My other one I can't reach but her phone doesn't work there and she relies on family phones, and she forgot to give me her family phone numbers before she left. She's scheduled to fly back next Tuesday.

I will be having them work from home for 14 days upon return, no coming into the office.
 
Nov 20, 2017
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We won't know a good mortality rate until we have about 200 cases outside of China. A combination of bad reporting, overtaxed resources, and other factors will make it unreliable. I think the most common agreement though is this is more lethal than the flu in its current state.

We're already at that point, with a <1% fatality rate outside of China as of now. Not that many cases which have fully recuperated and are virus free though.

P.S. can we please hand out some warnings for unverified conspiracy theory bullshit being posted in here? People are being panicky as it is already.
 

Arex

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Yeah, I'm wanting to go more than anything since this is my dream trip that I have always wanted to do since I was a kid and it was already approved by work, so I'm trying to be optimistic and think it's safe to go, but that previous article about the guy that just flew into Tokyo and developed a cough two days later has me a little bit spooked of getting it via being on a plane with others. Thankfully, it isn't an issue at all right now, but the worried side of me can't help by think about the "what if?".

I think the cases have been from people who have been to Wuhan or in contact with people from Wuhan, so I think if you're not flying from there is probably less chance of getting it via planes. Though of course the situation can change. In the end it's your decision to make :)
I'll just say Japan is awesome, and I did read on twitter that Kyoto is much less crowded right now due to lack of Chinese tourists.

I don't think we can say the death rate outside of Wuhan is lower. There's just fewer cases. We have about 190 cases outside China now and 2 deaths so far. The number is too small to make a determination yet.

So far the vast majority of the deaths were in Wuhan / Hubei (479 out of 490, via cnn), which was the epicenter of the outbreak. Of course things may change in 1-2 weeks as the incubation period ends :\
 
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