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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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You could easily google them and read from official sources rather than ask strangers on a forum? I mean if you are worried take it seriously man.
"The man who tested positive for the virus is an 80-year-old from Hong Kong, the semiautonomous Chinese city said in a statement. The infected patient had not been to healthcare facilities or seafood markets, nor had he had exposure to wild animals during his incubation period -- meaning he likely contracted the virus from another human. The man visited mainland China for "a few hours" on January 10, the statement said.
The man flew into Tokyo -- the world's most populous city -- on January 17 with his two daughters, and two days later said he began developing a cough, Hong Kong authorities said. He boarded the cruise in Yokohama on January 20, and when it stopped back in Hong Kong on January 25, part of its pre-planned itinerary, he got off and never returned. He sought medical attention on January 30 and was diagnosed with the virus shortly after. He is currently in a stable condition."
All bad news unfortunately
Edit: another cruise ship...
The man flew into Tokyo -- the world's most populous city -- on January 17 with his two daughters, and two days later said he began developing a cough, Hong Kong authorities said. He boarded the cruise in Yokohama on January 20, and when it stopped back in Hong Kong on January 25, part of its pre-planned itinerary, he got off and never returned. He sought medical attention on January 30 and was diagnosed with the virus shortly after. He is currently in a stable condition."
All bad news unfortunately
Edit: another cruise ship...
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I don't know if it's worse than other viruses but many important drugs are produced in China, so hospitals and pharmacies all over the world could soon run out of life-saving medicines.
This is pretty near me so you know...that's...good. What's weird about this though is a local hospital has a state of the art quarantine center and they aren't taking them there? I don't really understand.
Because it's not a quarantine as in they have it, it's a quarantine as in they're being kept there until it's confirmed that they don't. If one of them has it, then they'll be at the hospital.
Ah, that makes sense considering a person can have it but not show symptoms for like 2 weeks or something right?
It's easy to point at people doing this stuff and call them assholes, yes, but the way Chinese authorities have been handling this stuff also contributes to the psychology of why someone might do this. Instead of making it safe and secure for anyone who declares honestly, there have been many reports of how people declared that they've been to Wuhan and their information was leaked by authorities, they were ostracized by their communities entirely while on home quarantine, and so on. If there's a straightforward and non-judgemental form of handling this - like how it is in many countries now, most people would be comfortable to declare honestly to protect themselves and others. But when resources are stretched so much in China that even if you declare, you might be seen as a threat or burden, and you might not even get the treatment you need, that stress and anxiety can drive many people to want to avoid all the potential hassle.
If the example of drink driving, imagine a group of people going for drinks at night. After drinking they walk back to their cars, and there's an officer at the parking lot asking if anyone is drunk. If anyone admits they are drunk they get treated like a criminal and other people start throwing stones at him. Would it be unusual in this case for some people who feel they might be a little tipsy but don't want to be treated like that to declare they are not drunk and just get into their car and drive off? Yes it's irresponsible but as a society people should make declaring inconvenient things as easy as possible without added pressure.
Yeah, 12 days, I believe. It's just precautionary, most people heading back into their countries are facing this at the moment.
Honestly, yes
Although you probably don't have it and you yourself will probably be fine either yway, you just don't want to spread it if you have it
From what I've read, I should also have shorter breath and a fever. I have none of those.
Still wearing a mask tho, but my situation would've gotten worse if it was the Coronavirus
It's my understanding that when it comes to this class of diseases, shorter breath is a serious sign that you should see a doctor. Milder cases might not have that.
Well, that doesn't make me feel better.
My coughing is very light and mostly in the morning only.
What should I do, I'm supposed to be leaving China to go back home in 2 days.
Try to self isolate and report to a hospital to get checked up?
I'm gonna do that, kinda worried they might stop me from going back home.
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"Immediately" might have been too strong of a word, sorry.
Luckily coughing is a minor symptom and it still could be anything, or nothing at all.
Yikes indeed. Hope we can contain it here in the bay area. Lots of anecdotal stories about folks returning from China for trips for New year's .
Technically they also say that the symptoms can vary, there are some people who have the virus that show no symptoms at all at any point, so it's hard to say for sure.
Does the number of unconfirmed patients goes down? I haven't noticed. It would be nice to get a rate of how fast they are at confirming if people have the virus.
Or do they just keep increasing the number?
You would be able to tell with that rate how the spread is being slow, I think
Or do they just keep increasing the number?
You would be able to tell with that rate how the spread is being slow, I think
I can't help but notice you keep mentioning "home". What region is your home (if you don't mind me asking)?
they have those devices to measure the temperature on your face when you arrive. Get some over the counter stuff and rinse your mouth and throat with salt water
I live literally 5-10 minutes away from the hospital in the UK that's been chosen as the quarantine centre over here. I honestly wouldn't worry about it.
Yeah it might be lower than 2%.
yup most likely it will be like a typical seasonal flu since not all infected go down with severe symptoms like high fever and go unreported
Sounds like all this panic will do more harm than the actual virus itself. We might have an economic slowdown later this year from the halting of Chinese economic activity.
yes, we are already facing delays in the shipment of goods from China
Woo, doing a sudden HK border run tomorrow because we just got word that HK will be quarantining anyone crossing the border from the Mainland for 14 days starting Saturday.
Question is, why is the mortality so much higher in Wuhan then?
Both deaths and cases should be way higher in Hubei. If someone comes in and dies before being tested it is not counted as a Coronavirus death. So it's impossible to get accurate information since China has such a fucked up reporting system
But we also have data for cases Outside if China now as well.
Caution is fine, I even encourage it. Until data shows is otherwise. And everyday we are getting better data.
Hopefully you can be tested ASAP and turn out negative, then no need to worry. If you are positive, it's better you stay instead of infecting other people on the plane and taking the virus back to Canada. Wishing you the best, fingers crossed!
Likely a combination of suppressed awareness until it was way too late, overloaded healthcare and not enough medical supplies.
Zhejiang and Guangdong will have 2k cases and 200 in serious/critical condition in the next report yet mysteriously no deaths. The likelihood of this even being remotely accurate is small. I wouldn't trust low death counts out of Wuhan as proof that it's not that bad
Viral pneumonia can quickly turn life-threatening, even in the West. The hospitals are overwhelmed now, and they don't have enough supplies.
Add to that that air quality in China is terrible, plus a lot of Chinese men smoke, which damages the lungs.
WHO is basically saying both are almost "fake news" and is downplaying both stories, basically saying there is no known drug that is effective at this time.
The mortality rate definitely will keep lowering as more and more people don't get properly diagnosed with nCoV as they die at their homes or before getting to ICU. The situation in China is being drastically under reported.
I was reading that last night, about men in Wuhan being smokers and how that could be an important aspect of why this virus seems to be more aggressive towards men. So yes, having a weak respiratory system could lead to more serious complications and a much more aggressive pneumonia.
We won't know a good mortality rate until we have about 200 cases outside of China. A combination of bad reporting, overtaxed resources, and other factors will make it unreliable. I think the most common agreement though is this is more lethal than the flu in its current state.
I'm aware, I was being dramatic. It's not like they're gonna break loose 28 Days Later style and destroy my city.
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