Man, that is some scary shit. A deadly disease that can't be noticed for up to 14 days, but will still spread.
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Man, that is some scary shit. A deadly disease that can't be noticed for up to 14 days, but will still spread.
We need more information on what constitutes a "recovered" patient. I would assume people who leave the hospital as "clear" and fully healed are no longer virus carriers, but those who just shrug it off and go through some mild symptoms for a couple of days would be the ones who could still be infectious.
This fucking thing has made it impossible to actually work. I'm already a severe hypochondriac (being treated) to the point where it's ruined years of my life. This is the kind of thing that I can't really deal with. 2020 is a disaster thus far, it feels like.
Good lord. I'm hoping we can find out more soon in regards to whether or not most of those who "recover" can still transmit the virus.
Isn't this normal for the cold virus? I was always told that you're still contagious at least 24 hours after not having symptoms, so it's not surprising that this one is similar.
The WHO and CDC just clarified some stuff: Coronavirus myths: CDC and World Health Organization address misinformation about the disease
Well, for what it's worth, your line of work does not necessitate in you having to be outside mingling with a plethora of people on daily basis. Now, that said, if you, like myriad folks, use public transportation....
LOL
Nah, it's moreso along the lines of "garlic helps a cold!"
It won't. Coronaviruses aren't very hardy. Staph and other bacterium are living organisms that can produce various compounds that can protect themselves.
I work from home, really, but my wife goes into the office. She had to fly from Germany to Poland for a trip too.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I should seriously stop following the news on this for a while, at least.
They can't even get normal flu tests right in my experience. Have had my daughters, more than once, get tested for flu across an entire week and come up negative. Only to go to another doctor (once the same day) and that office say they're positive.
I fully understand the tests aren't always fail-safe, and that 24 hours can mean the difference between testing positive or not, however......
I've gotten angry at my kids pediatricians multiple times. Seems like half the time they're just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. How does one place test negative twice in 3 days and then you go 20 minutes away, for the same thing on the SAME day (I purposefully did it to see what would happen), and the child tests positive??
NP, cheers.
Yea, that's definitely a stresser. Hoping that the german government is sufficiently competent to address both infection and transmission related avenues. Good luck, John.
Depending upon your psyche it would make sense. That said, it is best to be informed on a somewhat regular basis to help you potentially prepare ahead of the curve.
Yeah, you guys not in China are honestly just making it seem worse lol I am in china where I get chinese products, food packages and everything and you guys are freaking out about mail almost a month out.... and traveling between your countries which you have a better chance of winning the lottery right now than getting this virus.
Apologies if this has been posted before. It aggregates some updates over the past day.
- Dr. Gregory Poland, director of Mayo Clinic's Vaccine Research Group, said that the fast-spreading coronavirus is nearing pandemic status.
- China's National Health Commission said on Monday the confirmed cases in China increased to 17,205. The death rose to 361 in China.
- The Philippines on Sunday reported the first death outside of China.
- "I think we're going to start seeing secondary spread in the United States in the next two or three weeks," said Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner.
Yeah, unfortunately, that's not how anxiety works.
I know it's irrational. It doesn't help me any.
Then you stop paying attention to it and you can't worry it. If you get sick still isn't a time to panic. Just say to yourself that your more tired of worrying and you may control it better. I wouldn't be worrying it at all if I was in the US and I'd happily go out.
The "yellow peril" xenophobic/racist sentiment surrounding this virus is insane. I was at a museum the other day and they had a Chinese New Year event. There were tables with hand sanitizer set up everywhere and all the staff members were wearing masks. In fucking LA, where there's only 1 confirmed case.
About the same number of times that they do it in my mouth. If your are worried about inhaling the droplets you have the same probabilities of getting them in your eyes. Using a mask without googles is not so effective, but the mask is useful to stop infected people spreading it. The most important prophylactic measures that you can adopt is to wash your hands regularly and don't touch your face (which is quite difficult to be fair).
Antibiotics kill bacteria. Coronavirus is a virus. Both cause a pneumonia, which is an inflammation of the lungs. There are many more causes; even some antibiotics (nitrofurantoin) can cause a pneumonia.
Antibiotics would only help if you developed bacterial pneumonia as a complication. They will not help at all with viral pneumonia which Coronavirus can directly cause.
Completely anecdotal information from the US, but I've been in two airports today and have seen almost no one wearing masks, and I was in a city where there's a confirmed case. The general public here is does not appear to be freaking out enough to be stocking up on/wearing face masks.
wow, i never knew that (well, i knew that you cant use atb against viruses). i thought you can battle every form of pneumonia with atb's. so if you have pneumonia caused by a virus, you are pretty much fucked and have to hope your body can fight it off?
Yes, but you can support the body. Also, there are a few antivirals, which some hospitals claim to work on the new coronavirus.
It's true.
It's a serious disease. But the internet panic/doomsday prediction isn't justified.
You're referring to the concoction of HIV meds and other meds, right?
I was at a CVS yesterday and they were sold out of masks.
See, that's exactly what I was expecting to see at the airports which is why I've been pretty shocked that no one is using a mask/hand sanitizer. Honestly I'd prefer to see people wearing masks, but nope. People are still sneezing/coughing and not covering their mouths :(
Good to see companies trying to find something too.
This is Dr. Tom Frieden's Bio:
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Sometimes antibiotic is given anyways regardless of the type because
a) Bacterial is more deadly so antibiotic is given as a precaution since diagnosis may be difficult / time consuming.
b) viral pneumonia can lead to bacterial pneumonia, antibiotic can reduce the risk.
Rapid flu test are notoriously bad, they have like a 50% failure rate.
We talked to the consulates in the US so it seems we should be able to go to Canada and then the US. Doesn't seem to be a complete band just yet but who knows... guess we may try it....
Thought this was a very interesting video. American going around and the hospital she went to was almost dead, as in no one was there except the workers. A very different look than what we have been seeing and panicking over at least..
She is actually going to work at the hospital which is both brave and kind of scary. Not sure what to think of it but she is for sure brave.
I listened to the Science Vs. episode about the coronavirus over the weekend and it made me believe even more that this ultimately isn't going to be some world-altering event. Sad for the people who have contracted it and the poor situation management that is going on in some circumstances but I really don't think that most people have anything to worry about.
The people who think it's going to infect most of the world's population and kill at least 3% of infected, that would definitely be world altering.
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