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Coronavirus Discussion Thread (See Staff Post) [UPDATE: WHO declares global emergency. See threadmarks]
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I'd assume your package took longer than 48 hours to be shipped and be delivered.
Yeah, it did, but honestly, this is an irrational thing I can afford to do if it lessens my anxiety over this whole thing.
Same situation here, luckily the bits I ordered weren't urgent so I'm leaving them a week before opening. It probably is silly, but for peace of mind I don't care.
My company is already struggling because the invoicing in China has stopped. We aren't getting our money.
That is some half assed planning. Why does Canada's measures feel so lax? The political cost of this, if shit hits the fan, will be substantial for the Liberals.
How did local media discover "traces" of the virus? The only way to confirm Coronavirus is through RT-PCR and genome mapping. Did the local media have a mobile lab or something?
Masks don't prevent you from catching diseases.
They stop you spreading
Depends on the mask. A surgical mask doesn't do much, but an N95 (or better) mask helps a significant amount.
Does anyone have any idea if me and my wife go to Canada if she would be able to enter the US later on. We don't have a great or easy way to stay in Canada and my family is in the US. She is only on travel visas for Canada and US. Although even me entering Canada may not be easy either.
Is this true? That means the death count is almost 200 higher than previously reported.
It's technically not surprising because many of the reports in provinces outside Hubei don't have any deaths and it's basically statistically impossible for that to be true
Unless you need it actively, it's not worth the stress, just leave it alone. To be clear I absolutely doubt it's contaminated but there is no point in second guessing yourself. Just get to it in two days
No new cases for a second consecutive day in Singapore, and only 1 close contact of the current cases still to be tracked down. Fingers crossed that our current cases make a full recovery soon and we can help wall off the virus's spread.
Let's hope it continues. If each country can get it locked down would be great.
it looks like a typo, error. the headline says 521, but if you read the article it says 362. also, 521 is the number of recovered people.
here's the cnn article.
A cruise ship of 3000 people which someone who was diagnosed with coronavirus was on until yesterday was stuck in Yokohama bay unable to dock while they prepared to test everyone for a day. Most people cleared and told they can go home and monitor themselves - most will travel by train from there to Tokyo etc. Seems really irresponsible..
Not true at all. Typical surgical masks [like the ones in short supply] offer little to no protection from either contracting or spreading the germs. Proper hygiene is far more effective.
EDIT: This is also worth a listen, aired on NPR this morning:
No, You Won't Catch The New Coronavirus Via Packages Or Mail From China
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Letting them on the trains sounds like a recipe for disaster. Any indication on how many tested positive?
Ok that makes more sense. I was legitimately going to be shocked that China was going correct their numbers instead of hiding the true amounts.
Is it just me or does the WHO sounds like a mouth piece of CCP? Almost everything they said is to praise China's transparency and the response and how they have confidence China can contain it. Oh and how it was not a global emergency when there were cases in almost every continent and how travel ban doesn't work etc.
Meanwhile it is precisely due to CCP's "transparency" the virus spreads, and almost every country is imposing some travel restriction from China EXCEPT stupid Canada and UK.
Oh and China is not letting Canada to evacuate people stuck in Wuhan because Canada is not smart enough to "donate" medical supplies. I think Canada should donate something to help them, but then it is rather Childish for China to hold up on such things. However, given how Canadian official is still lying outright about how you cannot transmit the virus without symptom, maybe China is doing us a favour.
Meanwhile it is precisely due to CCP's "transparency" the virus spreads, and almost every country is imposing some travel restriction from China EXCEPT stupid Canada and UK.
Oh and China is not letting Canada to evacuate people stuck in Wuhan because Canada is not smart enough to "donate" medical supplies. I think Canada should donate something to help them, but then it is rather Childish for China to hold up on such things. However, given how Canadian official is still lying outright about how you cannot transmit the virus without symptom, maybe China is doing us a favour.
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I think part of it is how China used to report death. I think they usually report the direct cause (e.g. bacterial pneumonia) instead of the underlying trigger (e.g. flu). So if the hospital ran out of test kits or cannot confirm the virus, then the condition will only say "severe pneumonia". I guess it is still technically correct, but it does make proper accounting difficult. I am wondering how many people managed to survive the corona virus, but only crumble due to secondary infection.
This is probably why there is no confirmed case yet in here. Hospitals would test the suspects with minimum efforts, call them negative, and move on.
I'm just hoping this calms down in the next few months. I'm just concerned over this since I have Asthma and my roommate has weakened lungs and a permanent cough due to Walking Pneumonia years back and I'm going to Japan in early April, so I just hope it doesn't spread in Japan much more (even though there are only 20 cases currently, I believe?).
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Awww
Tiny optimism goes a long way when all we've been getting is bad news day after day
Guys maybe too early to say anything but the curve for total confirmed cases on the JHU map has flatlined. Possible hope that we're approaching the peak or possibly at the peak?
Yeah but, what about the inside of package? Can't that be "infected" too?
It's definitely something to be concerned about, just that people are overly reactionary about the latest developments at times.
Hopefully, 20 but if you remove people they brought in those planes, its actually 14. Im on the same boat, I have a fully paid trip march 30-Apr15
Screening/quarantine enforcement is so all over the place that it's hard to feel confident in different countries' efforts when they aren't unified in their approach.
It doesn't have to be one extreme or the other. It won't be a world ending virus and it's only a real threat to the old or infirm, but it's also a nasty and virile thing which could spread real bad. The biggest thing I'd actually worry about is the economic impact. We're already meant to be headed for recession...
Well it's a highly contagious potentially dangerous virus without any sort of cure. It's critical that it is managed and not spread across the world and I think everyone is taking the appropriate actions to do that.
Having said that the general public's reaction to all of this feels overblown at times. From surgical masks being sold everywhere to people canceling their vacations to places around but outside of mainland China.
I just worry because I have an infant and I had 2 vacations planned for the end of this month and March. I worry because I don't want anything to happen to her. Idk how much this will spread in the United States and god knows which stranger next to you in a plane or a train could be carrying it
There is 70 million people in Thailand and like 15 confirmed cases of this virus. Unless things take a drastic turn, I'm guessing your friend has better odds of getting in a fatal car accident on the way to the airport than contracting this virus.
The challenge with calibrating how to react to this is that the incubation period is long, which means for 5-10 days a patient is completely asymptomatic but still contagious. So the numbers we have are effectively lagging a week behind. Also people have tested negative then shown positive when re-tested. We don't know how effective the tests are. We simply don't know enough. There are best case scenarios and worst case scenarios, and we don't know which one is more likely.
Hasn't this been disproven? According to Swedish news, the German and Swedish health institutes do NOT think it's contagious during the incubation period and that the person who was contagious was in fact already ill.
If it indeed was, we would be seeing outbreaks all over the world already.
Yes, we might see outbreaks soon. That's the concern. In fact this article quotes German health authorities.
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