I also think 505 is to blame here. But dont you think Remedy could choose to provide a free next-gen Update if they wanted to?
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Control will only support free next-gen upgrades with purchase of upcoming $40 Ultimate Edition
- Thread starter Nightengale
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I also think 505 is to blame here. But dont you think Remedy could choose to provide a free next-gen Update if they wanted to?
Not unless they suddenly get the publishing rights to the game, no. Not at all.
Probably not, however they are still responsible for being a part of this scummy decision. Maybe look a little longer at the contract you sign, maybe don't agree in the meeting where this decision was announced or discussed. MAYBE at least offer SOMETHING for your day 1 supporters, you know?
They could probably choose to provide no next-gen update at all. They have plenty of leverage with 505.
Ultimate Edition is a stealth way to charge for the port imo. Oh you get the free upgrade but only if you buy it again.
Remedy have been making bullshit deals for years.
- Control EGS exclusivity on PC, and PS4-exclusive content.
- Quantum Break received a late, rushed, and abandoned port on PC. The DX12 and DX11 versions of the game are sold on different storefronts. Both perform terribly, lack basic options expected of a PC game, and control badly with a mouse. The PC version doesn't have the option to download cutscenes for offline play - you have to stream them. And in-game cinematics are locked to 30 FPS.
- The Alan Wake Xbox 360 exclusivity deal, after being a long-anticipated PC game.
There's no stealth about it. And why not just charge for the next gen port? Given the technical problems that Control had on consoles, I feel like they ought to make sure BC works on next gen. But beyond that, charging for a full next gen version hardly seems controversial, given Control's release date and precedent with games like TLOU Remastered.
Remember when they said that the reason Alan Wake wasn't on PC was because it was designed to be played on a couch, not because their deal with Microsoft required exclusivity?
PS4 wasn't backward compatible with PS3, this is totally different...
They should at least give the current owners a way to upgrade for a fee, doesn't make sense to buy the full game again. Expected more from Remedy.
That is easily said from the outside, but not really taking the realities of being an independent developer into account. When faced with the choice between making a game and keeping your employees paid, and declining to do so out of pride or because it may not be the best publisher, I would certainly hope that you develop the game.
I say that as someone who previously worked at an independent developer who certainly struggled between projects, and had to significantly reduce staff as a result.
off too late... :S I was going to sell my not opened copy :S
HAve they said if you buy the series X / Ps5 version you get also ps4/one X version?
Yes this is the most obvious point I think people are missing. Seems like if they could have self published and kept all the rights and done whatever they'd like it's common sense to say they'd have done so. Instead they probably took the best deal to get their vision of the game made while staying open. That's better than nothing.
The ultimate edition is the PS4/X1 that will later be patched.
I still don't think that's off the table, unless they've said more than is in the OP, the ultimate edition is the only free upgrade path.
Though if that's the case, they really should've clarified by now.
Well, that one was released on Day One. It`s called "Deluxe Edition" and it was supposed to include all content. But guess what...it doesn`t. ;)
Kinda reminds me of those Street Fighter-games where you think "now that`s gotta be the final release right?", until they release another version.
Maybe we should wait for Control Ultimate Super Turbo Edition, lol.
Even Tekken 7's ultimate edition doesn't include content for season pass 3 and god knows how many season passes it will have before we get the ultimate ultimate edition which is why I haven't bought it so far same reason why I haven't yet bought Doom Eternal, pubs think they have gotten smarter this gen...idiots
505 Games has probably got return for their investment already. They bought the rights with 7,75 million, got over 10 million from Epic and % of the sales. It's not like the game will stop making money for them. Their relationship with Remedy went sideways and now they are trying to milk it for every penny they can get because the likelihood of them ever publishing another Remedy game is close to zero.
If the relationship between 505 and Remedy was okay/decent, they might have partnered up on the next game as well, but as we know Remedy went with Epic. Remedy had to deal with the backlash from being sold only on EGS and now this. Granted, they might have had a say (or at least gotten some money) on the Epic deal, but it could have soured their relationship. Remedy chose to cut out the middleman by going directly to Epic with their next games, which might have pissed off 505.
I doubt 505 Games made many friends with the way they handled the game and Remedy. They are trash tier publisher to begin with, with very limited amount of decent games under their belt. Remedy always talks about establishing brands, the long game and are generally quite aware of what reaction their moves (or publishers movers) make. They've had to deal with Alan Wake backslash (PC release postponed by MS) etc. This move has 505 Games written all over it, such a shame Remedy takes the hit as well when their hands are pretty much tied up. Luckily for Remedy they are not in such dire position as they were back in 2017, so scooping them up is not that easy. Their stock has gone up from 13.80 to 30.50 during corona. Last time I checked, it was 20 euros and something and that was in July. Should have bought their stock when it was a lot cheaper :)
Season pass doesn't even have all the content, I absolutely loathe this shit
Shame, because those $40 could have gone towards Remedy's next game. They'll get nothing now instead.
The thing is, 505 have a big Remedy game still to publish: the next gen version of Control. By trying to nickel and dime the current gen players with the Ultimate Edition, they're just killing off potential sales of the next gen version by pissing off their loyal customers - the ones who would've been there on launch day for the next gen version. Nobody wins here, except for the people who barely gave a shit about Control in the first place.
I bought this game in the PSN sale last week to replay it on PS5 come november. So yeah, this blows.
Well that is true. I personally don't see the logic here, but then again I'm not Italian.
It's just horrible PR whatever their goal is. The free upgrade should be awarded to anyone buying a version of the game that has the base game + dlcs. Yes, making the game for XBX and PS5 will cost them money. But had they announced that anyone purchasing Ultimate Edition, whatever edition had it all from the beginning or base game + season pass would be awarded free upgrade, they could have boosted the sales for the upcoming edition and for the season pass. Now their tactics have created only bad publicity on everyone involved.
It sucks that Remedy just can't get a break when it comes to publishers. Their last 3 games (big ones) have all suffered from publishers decisions.
How do I get the upgrade path for free?
Because I'm pretty sure step one is to spend money.
cool. A just bought it on the psn store a few days ago. Whatever. Should still look better on a ps5...
To clarify, I'm saying that the quote in the OP says that the ultimate edition is the only edition receiving a free update.
To me, that leaves them wiggle room for a paid update for other editions. As in, update to ultimate for $15 or something.
You're buying a PS4/X1 game, and the upgrade to get the PS5/XSX version is free. It's not that hard to grasp, surely?
This deal is great for everyone but the people who originally supported the game.
what a world we live in.
what a world we live in.
Can I get a source for those numbers? It's not that I don't believe you, it's just I want to see for myself. Remedy hasn't had the best luck with publishers, definitely.
I love Control so much, I bought the pass for both dlcs. That's something I haven't done for a very long time but wanted the content as well as support Remedy/505 to show love for more Control in the future.
This however is BS and should be challenged in every way.
This however is BS and should be challenged in every way.
Obviously it's a free upgrade for anyone who buys the ultimate edition. That's not the point. The point is that it's not free for people who bought the original version, and who almost certainly paid more for that original version (and potentially the season pass too) to support Remedy in the launch window.
Didn't Microsoft take a hard stance on "selling upgrade paths" as DLC for games? Think I read that somewhere.
Stock price or the deals with 505 Games and EGS?
Stock prices are here: https://investors.remedygames.com/
505 Games and EGS deals: Use search function here and put "Remedy" and only thread titles and you should find the threads where it was discussed.
Time for Remedy to back-pedal this.
I got the most expensive edition + Season Pass ain't buying anything else other than Alan Wake Remaster or Control 2.
I got the most expensive edition + Season Pass ain't buying anything else other than Alan Wake Remaster or Control 2.
You'd think that was obvious. The person I was replying to was just being pedantic and using the 'free' argument.
Completely agree 505 need to offer this free upgrade to anyone who already has the game+season pass at least.
there is a stream later today, that shows the first gameplay of the new expansion/dlc. they have to adress it there. the stream is 3 hours and 40 minutes from now.
I'm super happy with the $40 price, but I still feel for everyone that bought the base game and season pass and won't get the upgrade for "reasons".