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Control will only support free next-gen upgrades with purchase of upcoming $40 Ultimate Edition
- Thread starter Nightengale
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They are charging for next-gen just like last gen. So if the ultimate edition was next-gen only, suddenly it is okay for you? The code you are getting on the box would be the exact same either way.
This is actually the FIRST thing about new gen that has actively pissed me off. I don't agree with the 69.99 price tag on the new 2K game, for instance, but also felt it was inevitable that a publisher would try to get away with that (and in my opinion, fail to make it the standard). For Control, I purchased the game, beat it, sold it, then purchased it AGAIN because I enjoyed it so much and was eager to play the DLCs. When I realized new gen was coming soon, I decided to wait until the new consoles and buy the expansion pass...and now I have the choice to repurchase the entire game or just play them through on the current optimization - which is acceptable of course, but deeply disappointing.
With how much Microsoft (and to a lesser extent Sony) are pushing seamless transition from last gen to new gen, I am extremely shocked 505 thinks this is a good idea and one that won't backfire on them. I am genuinely almost always the guy that just doesn't care what kind of money grab the publishers go for, but after a generation of almost completely free graphical upgrades, this is deeply disappointing for one of my favorite games.
With how much Microsoft (and to a lesser extent Sony) are pushing seamless transition from last gen to new gen, I am extremely shocked 505 thinks this is a good idea and one that won't backfire on them. I am genuinely almost always the guy that just doesn't care what kind of money grab the publishers go for, but after a generation of almost completely free graphical upgrades, this is deeply disappointing for one of my favorite games.
If they hadn't already previously announced a free upgrade path from PS4/XBO to PS5/XBSX and then added this caveat now, then it wouldn't be this controversial at least.
So I bought the game at launch, purchased the season pass and now I'm a less valuable costumer for 505 than those that are going to buy the ultimate versión for $30. Yeah...
I'm not buying any 505 games in the future if they don't budge with this decision.
I'm not buying any 505 games in the future if they don't budge with this decision.
You can (at least on Xbox, not entirely sure with PlayStation, since there was no bc list yet), but then it will not use the next gen graphics, and just be the current gen version instead.
I'm sure 505 got some nice Epic Money though. Does sales even matter when you get big-daddy cash?
Two weeks till it drops on Steam.
I feel like they just needed a flashy way to advertise that the game would be coming to Steam after being a 1 year exclusive on EGS.
I'll never understand "Ultimate Editions" only a year after release lol
I'll never understand "Ultimate Editions" only a year after release lol
What is the Ultimate Edition?
Is there an upgrade to it so you're then eligible for the next-gen?
Is there an upgrade to it so you're then eligible for the next-gen?
And 4k, HDR and many other terms as well while we're at it?
Same here. I'm waiting for it to be less than $20, or less than the season pass. I have plenty to play. I don't mind starting over on the new consoles so I can experience the game from the beginning with better performance, but yeah, this is a bad move all around.
its a horrible clash of timing.
If you're publishing a big game basically from now onwards, you almost need to offer a PS5/XSX upgrade path to encourage peopel to buy. Otherwise a lot of people will hold on for the next gen version, day one SW sales will therefore disappoint and it could affect the studio badly (lack of bonuses, impact on funds for the next gen ports etc).
thats fine for 'new' games - its the first time anyone is being asked to buy it. But for 'game of hte year' kinds of releases you're in a hard place. You are technically releasing a 'new' game, but its really a repackage job to try and bring in some new revenue. So do you offer an upgrade path or not.
Personally I think the best approach here would have been to *not* offer a free upgrade to PS5/XSX users. Just let them choose to not buy it day one, take the potential hit and hope they'll buy when the next gen versions are out. Otherwise you get exactly this situation.
If you're publishing a big game basically from now onwards, you almost need to offer a PS5/XSX upgrade path to encourage peopel to buy. Otherwise a lot of people will hold on for the next gen version, day one SW sales will therefore disappoint and it could affect the studio badly (lack of bonuses, impact on funds for the next gen ports etc).
thats fine for 'new' games - its the first time anyone is being asked to buy it. But for 'game of hte year' kinds of releases you're in a hard place. You are technically releasing a 'new' game, but its really a repackage job to try and bring in some new revenue. So do you offer an upgrade path or not.
Personally I think the best approach here would have been to *not* offer a free upgrade to PS5/XSX users. Just let them choose to not buy it day one, take the potential hit and hope they'll buy when the next gen versions are out. Otherwise you get exactly this situation.
I was being somewhat sarcastic, but obviously buying into the exclusivity deal means you're counting on the money bag to compensate for lower sales during the exclusivity period
I guess I will wait for it to be free to play it again. This is a bullshit move because even if you bought the DLC separately you wouldn't benefit.
It would have sold a lot more units had it been on Steam day one, but they probably got a big payment from Epic.
Yes, I'm sure all parties are celebrating it as a great success. I think I can hear the developers over at Remedy celebrating from here.
I guess it's not really going to sell well on Steam then, given that Epic didn't hold it back, and since we all have time-and-dimension machines, we definitely know that exclusivity didn't affect first-year sales.
I doubt that very much from all the examples we've seen. We'll see in 2 weeks if Control is somehow unique.
Smart delivery isn't a marketing term and it's been explained on this forum ad infinitum
Edit - should have said it isn't "just" a marketing term
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Wtf I bought the digital deluxe which was like 60-80 bucks.
You fucking serious?
Bullshit man. Pure bullshit.
You fucking serious?
Bullshit man. Pure bullshit.
Control is not your average AAA game. It would probably sold more on Steam? Definitely. Would it sold significantly more? Definitely not.
Look at the sales of this game on consoles. It sold poorly everywhere. If it sold well on consoles and poor on PC then I would agree the Epic deal held it back. but that's not what happened.
THIS.
Although I can understand how some people think it's SIMPLY a marketing term if they don't know the work MS does on the back end for games publishers agree to be apart of the program.
I don't see an inch of smart in a system that download different file on different device. Smart delivery is a PR thing for say crossbuy. The result is exactly the same.
Work on the backend ? Sony have no smart thing and all third game livraison intelligente are crossbuy on PS5. MS work for sony ?
If 505 games did previously announce ps4/xbo versions will be offered a free upgrade to ps5/xbss/sx then I think there could some backlash.
What pisses me off even more is calling this "free upgrade".
No, fuck off. If you are making people buy a new version in order to upgrade to PS5/XSX versions, then it's not fucking free is it? So once again, fuck off Remedy & 505 Games.
No, fuck off. If you are making people buy a new version in order to upgrade to PS5/XSX versions, then it's not fucking free is it? So once again, fuck off Remedy & 505 Games.
The game runs terribly on PS4 as well and you ain't gonna give the patch that fixes this to the fans that bought the game early and supported you? lol what a slap in the face.
Control is a cool game, but boy is the performance on base PS4 bad.
The first DLC was hard to playthrough because of those issues,so I am worried about the second
The first DLC was hard to playthrough because of those issues,so I am worried about the second
The difference is that on this forum, nobody has complained about "Cross Buy" like they have complained about Smart Delivery every single time it is mentioned. Every single time.