Control will only support free next-gen upgrades with purchase of upcoming $40 Ultimate Edition

[salromano]

If I could take a crack at guessing a non-money-related reasoning for this, I'd imagine it's:

The next-gen versions of Control are exclusively the Ultimate Edition, which includes the two expansions built into the game.

The original Control does not include these two expansions.

I do think they should be able to verify whether someone has purchased both expansions / the Season Pass and allow users to upgrade based on that, but maybe it's more complicated than that, I dunno.

 

[AegonSnake]

Didnt the game run at 15 fps on base consoles?

You gotta wonder why the critics didnt take that into account when nominating it for goty awards left and right.

 

[wollywinka]

Bought the game for my Xbox. Got halfway through before dropping it. Found it dull. Still, no free Smart Delivery is lame.

 

[Necron]

I suspect this is going to happen a lot going into next-gen...
want a PS5 or Xbox Series X upgrade? Pay!

(Though I kind of feel bad for Remedy in this case for being independant and all the difficulties that come with that... plus, I love Finland.)

 

[gofreak]

Okay, that is bullshit. The game played poorly on the PS4 and I was waiting for this so I could complete it with better performance. Guess that's not happening.

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I guess it might have better/smoother performance on the new systems via BC ('boost modes') anyway? Depending on how the game works.

Of course an actual next-gen build would be better, but maybe not all hope is lost for better performance.

 

[Smash-It Stan]

Played us like fiddles

 

[Patitoloco]

I'm thinking this is probably on 505 rather than on Remedy.

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I don't think its even arguable. 505 have been cheap as fuck forever.

 

[liquidtmd]

Nah fuck that

I'd pay about £5-£8 surcharge for an upgrade patch max if it offered decent changes. Blocking me off entirely, that's a big yikes

 

[exodus]

Why is it launching on Steam before other platforms? I just get shit on for supporting them by buying the Epic store version? Nah, this is a hard pass.

 

[HardRojo]

They can fuck right off with this, seriously. I'd happily wait to play on PS5 if I were getting the update for free with my regular PS4 copy. Maybe in your shittiness offer it to those who bought the Season Pass as well, which would still be shitty, but at least a little less shitty than this.

 

[nihilence]

Why 505?!

The game had so much positivity.
Now it's going to turn negative.

 

[GJ]

Nice. I sold my PS4 and get to play the AWE dlc on the PS5. Good I got the ultimate edition when it was on sale

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The Ultimate Edition isn't available yet. You probably bought the Deluxe Edition, which has the exact same stuff, but won't get the free upgrade to the PS5 SKU.

 

[Com_Raven]

Yeah. We should be blaming 505 games. Remedy probably has no say in the matter

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For them, it is probably their "last chance" to make money from the Remedy partnership, since we know their next games will be with Epic (and it was definitely one of their most high-profile games as a publisher so far). Not that I am defending them, mind you.

 

[Deleted member 17207]

If I could take a crack at guessing a non-money-related reasoning for this, I'd imagine it's:

The next-gen versions of Control are exclusively the Ultimate Edition, which includes the two expansions built into the game.

The original Control does not include these two expansions.

I do think they should be able to verify whether someone has purchased both expansions / the Season Pass and allow users to upgrade based on that, but maybe it's more complicated than that, I dunno.

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Why should I have to buy the expansions to play the game I already own in an upgraded fashion, when it's going to be made/available anyway?

When those settings have always been available on PC anyway?

Nah this is just anti-consumer and garbage.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

1. Did not run particularly well on consoles.
2. Timed exclusive DLC earlier this year.
3. 'Free' upgrades hidden behind a Definitive Edition purchase.

A very enjoyable game marred by all of the above. They're certainly running the gamut.

 

[Lord Fanny]

Would really like to hear the reasoning for this.

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It's not a lake, it's an ocean (of money)

 

[LiK]

I'm thinking this is probably on 505 rather than on Remedy.

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It is but it's not a good look for Remedy.

 

[Mat-triX]

I assume the next gen versions are the complete/ultimate editions, thus if you want to use your vanilla Control from current gen, you need to get all the DLC to be equal to next gen Control in terms of content. Not a great look regardless.

 

[Cheat Code]

Chances are that the only SKU available for next-gen will be the version bundled with all the DLC already, so they can't really offer an upgrade from base game to base game + expansions for free.

 

[Azurik]

The Ultimate Edition isn't available yet. You probably bought the Deluxe Edition, which has the exact same stuff, but won't get the free upgrade to the PS5 SKU.

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Yes, you are correct. Just checked and it was the deluxe. My bad. Where do I sign the "WTF Remedy/ 505 Games" petition?!

 

[Ombala]

Glad I hold of on playing this

 

[Deleted member 60402]

Well fuck you too 505. And if Remedy had any part in this, well fuck them too.

 

[Buff Beefbroth]

Damn. I preordered the game at full price and never regretted it one bit until right now.

 

[Odesu]

Not really sure why people are shitting on Remedy, no matter what you think about this. They are the developer, 505 is the publisher. It's the publisher who normally decides these things. I'd be surprised if they didn't change their approach during the next few days after seeing how much they are shitting on the goodwill they created for this game.

Anyway, it sucks but I kind of get it? The game came out in August 2019 - over 1 year before the next gen consoles launched, before they were even announced. I find it hard to believe that anyone bought that game expecting to play it on next-gen instead, Remedy themselves probably didn't know what to do with the game at this point yet. It would make sense to ask for an upgrade fee in this case, at least to me.

 

[OldMuffin]

I bought the digital delux edition at launch, for f*ck sake, this is slimy as hell 🤦‍♂️

 

[golem]

Yeesh. If there are upgrades beyond the current PC version I hope my EGS copy gets them.

 

[DNAbro]

Stopped playing due to bad PS4 performance and hope for a next gen version. This is truly shit.

 

[MeltedDreams]

We better get ready for more of this shit.

 

[Deleted member 22750]

Lame as fuck remedy

yell at 505

maybe they will reverse it after the ultimate edition has been out for a little

 

[Ocean]

Why are so many people directing their snark at the devs? This sounds like a publisher thing. What does Remedy have to do with it?

 

[davygee]

Should we realistically expect companies to provide free next gen upgrades for current games? I don't think so.

Yes, on the surface this appears to a crappy move, but we don't know how much work the dev team need to put in to get this game looking and playing better on next gen consoles.

Maybe this is similar to The Last of Us from PS3 > PS4?

 

[dedge]

If they make the existing Control not backwards compatible then that's awful. If they allow that and are adding extra man hours to a new product then it's whatever.

 

[tulpa]

Ahahaha, I like that the trash dev responsible for that poor excuse of a port for the PS4 is the first ones to make you pay twice for a game during a BC generation. "If you want to play our game in a playable state, buy it again, this time we will get it right".
Fuck you Remedy, you scummy fucks.

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Man, you really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

 

[tzare]

Expected that this would happen for some games. If the effort to improve things (and this game is one that with RT and physics will probably be bigger than the usual resolution or framerate bump) is costly, doesn't make sense to be free honestly. Devs must get paid for their work.

 

[davygee]

Should we realistically expect companies to provide free next gen upgrades for current games? I don't think so.

Yes, on the surface this appears to a crappy move, but we don't know how much work the dev team need to put in to get this game looking and playing better on next gen consoles.

Maybe this is similar to The Last of Us from PS3 > PS4?

 

[uncleniccius]

Bought the original game and dlc so essentially the ultimate edition, nice way to be rewarded.

(Sarcasm to be clear).

 

[Nameless]

I adore Control, but it's not exactly a game that can afford to piss away goodwill. Just grabbed the season pass on sale a couple weeks back and was looking forward to a full playthrough + expansions on PS5

 

[Rowsdower]

So the Ultimate edition is a new SKU? Meaning if you bought the game at launch with the season pass (like I did), you get nothing for next gen? I would have to repurchase the entire game again!? That is primo bullshit.

Hoping it's BC with the PS5, and it has a boost mode. Maybe that'll help.

 

[Richietto]

Wait this Ultimate edition is a new SKU entirely? Meaning you have to pay what'll probably be $40+ for next gen upgrades to a game some bought at full price and got the DLC for? What a fucking bullshit move.

 

[Lashley]

Sounds like something Take Two would do, fucking hell.

 

[fiveshift]

Really poor move on them.

I was afraid this might happen so I delayed purchases of several games late this gen that I thought would benefit much better on next gen consoles. (Including this one)

 

[Rodelero]

I don't really understand why this is an issue, at least in principle. If Remedy have put in additional work to take advantage of new pieces of hardware, it isn't unreasonable that you should have to pay for it. If you want to play the PS4 version on your PS5, or the Xbox One version on your Xbox Series X, you can, with whatever boosts are provided automatically.

Am I misunderstanding some aspect of this?

 

[Deleted member 16908]

Lame. The Series X/PS5 versions better be mindblowingly good. I'm expecting raytracing.

 

[Kill3r7]

Chances are that the only SKU available for next-gen will be the version bundled with all the DLC already, so they can't really offer an upgrade from base game to base game + expansions for free.

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Sure they can. They can have you upgrade from the store (Xbox/PS) or send you a message with a free code like SuperHot just did.

I don't really understand why this is an issue, at least in principle. If Remedy have put in additional work to take advantage of new pieces of hardware, it isn't unreasonable that you should have to pay for it. If you want to play the PS4 version on your PS5, or the Xbox One version on your Xbox Series X, you can, with whatever boosts are provided automatically.

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Showing some love to people who bought your game at launch might not be a bad idea but then again they think these are the folks most likely to buy the ultimate edition anyhow.

 

[Vico]

Serious question: what if the game is added on Game Pass, like before the end of the year. Would this mean it's only available on one console??

 

[Fatmanp]

Gamers TM YouTube..........do your thing.

 

[Deleted member 3017]

Wait, so if I purchased the base game + season pass, I don't own the Ultimate Edition? That's unbelievable. What an incredibly scummy move.

 

[DeathyG]

I bought the digital delux edition at launch, for f*ck sake, this is slimy as hell 🤦‍♂️

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Same. What a baffling move.

 

[salromano]

Why should I have to buy the expansions to play the game I already own in an upgraded fashion, when it's going to be made/available anyway?

When those settings have always been available on PC anyway?

Nah this is just anti-consumer and garbage.

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Because the next-gen versions have the expansions built-in, they're not separate. And when you bought Control, you were buying it for PS4 or Xbox One - PS5 and Xbox Series X versions didn't exist. Free upgrades are nice and a great courtesy to your user base, but companies are by no means obligated to offer them.

 

[S1kkZ]

so they want me to pay 40,- for the same content i already own? are they fuckin nuts?
i would be ok with a 10,- upgrade to next-gen but this is just a slap in the face to everyone who supported the game.