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Control: Ultimate Edition |OT| Always Wait to Experience
- Thread starter GrrImAFridge
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I swore they said they added more checkpoints for the ultimate edition
That was the 1.11 update in August I think. Added more checkpoints to 3 of the bigger fights.
Was for all versions I am pretty sure.
Control - Discover a World Unknown
After a secretive agency in New York is invaded by an otherworldly threat, you become the new Director struggling to regain Control
controlgame.com
Also at first I had issues picking graphics vs performance but after some time testing, the slight drops and input lag feels a bit too much like playing it on ps4.
Looks great but the 60fps is too good and feels so much better. Nothing beats just totally destroying office equipment and seeing everything react and break apart.
I was wondering if that was the case. The next-gen (well, current-gen now lol) version was the one with discount and wanted be sure to pick the correct one.
It say Control Ultimate Edition in the Xbox dashboard ^^ Thanks!
Noticed this on PS5 and the Series X, it's an issue with quality and performance mode. Working on the DLC now for PS5 so it clearly doesn't hamper the experience too much, certainly not to the point that I'll ever revisit the last-gen versions again, but it's definitely a noticeable issue that I hope gets ironed out for subsequent replays.
so that's why it didn't already show up as bought for me. i was sure i bought the ultimate edition for ps4 like a month back and was surprised that it let me add the ps5 version to redeem it and didn't already say bought.
Several Control points were added and some soft checkpoints for the final main campaign missions.
You can just use Assist Mode from Options to turn on one hit kills, immortality, aim assist etc, to make the combat as easy for you as you want without penalty.
Think I'm halfway through at this point and I'm probably just going to turn on assist mode to finish it. The presentation is amazing and it's a really cool world with some great ideas, but everything else (including the story itself) is pretty mediocre, unfortunately.
It's also crashing a bunch when I track missions.
It's also crashing a bunch when I track missions.
I was the same way for my first hour or so. But reflective floors and the occasional glass just aren't worth losing 60fps. Every other benefit of RT is just too minor or insignificant to notice outside of DF level zoom ins
Now the game doesn't freeze horribly whenever you open a menu, reading the lore drops is actually quite fun.
Yeah, watched few videos about Control actually and its quite brutal how small the game really is and how much its stretched.
I like Control the most of Remedy's games, though.
But, I'm never buying their stuff until its super cheap - and I did buy this, didn't play the gamepass thingy. Was it worth the 10+ euros I paid? Kinda, but I suppose mainly because I don't have anything else to play at this time.
um I played this game on pc and I know it had some grainy shadows in some instances but what the fuck is this?
Do the modifiers (immortality/etc) affect trophies? I beat the game on PS4 and obviously I can't use that save and wanted to power through for the DLC
i think as a huge max payne fan, control hits the extremely satisfying combat loop mark for me. i think some people don't find the encounters interesting, but like max payne they've put more focus into making even the most basic fights feel good as opposed to coming up with a large amount of wholly unique combat scenarios.
it's a lot like max payne third person shooting + the new doom titles's focus on mobility and aggressive hit and run tactics. alternating between launching and shooting, dashing in and out of range and using shield as mobile cover (which i actually rarely do).
in that sense i think it's interesting that some find the combat boring, because it's the kind of game that encourages you to do a lot of situational thinking ie: which enemies to take out first, keeping distance from a kamikaze type enemy while focusing on attacking a beefier one that can kill you faster, having to stay in the air to avoid grenade launcher shots while also getting shit thrown at you by airborne enemies.
it's a lot like max payne third person shooting + the new doom titles's focus on mobility and aggressive hit and run tactics. alternating between launching and shooting, dashing in and out of range and using shield as mobile cover (which i actually rarely do).
in that sense i think it's interesting that some find the combat boring, because it's the kind of game that encourages you to do a lot of situational thinking ie: which enemies to take out first, keeping distance from a kamikaze type enemy while focusing on attacking a beefier one that can kill you faster, having to stay in the air to avoid grenade launcher shots while also getting shit thrown at you by airborne enemies.
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Had that happen to me, EXACTLY on those restrooms and nowhere else.
Right at the beginning of the arena, duck behind that round thing. He throws two pieces of debris at you and is free to shoot at in between.
I never moved away from that round structure near the entrance.
The mob enemies can easily be dealt with by force-throwing objects at them from behind the round structure - If you are lucky and throw an explosive object, Tomassi can get big damage through AOE.
You can hit Tomassi with thrown objects yourself but he is annoyingly evasive and i usually get bopped by his shit when i try to hit him with debris directly.
I've reacted to Alan Wake, Quantum Break and now Control the exact same way and it's this. Remedy always come up with these huge ideas and worlds but the actual act of playing their games is underwhelming and unsatisfying to me every time. It's the reason I didn't initially buy Control and having spent a few hours with the PS+ version on PS5 now, I can firmly say I apparently only like Remedy games in theory. The idea and worlds of their games get my imagination going but I haven't actually liked playing any of them since Max Payne 2. I'm actually surprised by the praise for Alan Wake especially in recent years, I think it's a mediocre-at-best and ultra-repetitive slog of a game wrapped in really cool aesthetics.
I like Alan Wake in the sense that yes, I love Twin Peaks and Stephen King and weird fiction and horror, but yeah, it's a super repetitive slog with boring gameplay. Just like every Remedy game. And I keep playing them. They all feel the same, with simple mechanics, bad encounter design, limited enemy types, and badly integrated lore stuff (going into menus to read things, etc).
I sound harsh - I like Remedy, and I wish them the best. I just want more from them in the gamey way.
Immortality mod on consoles? Never heard and I want to power through again for more cheese mints.
I've seen this exact same thing on PC. Outside the mail room if I'm remembering correctly (not dead letters). Not sure it wasn't a bug though.
Still very much enjoying 3 hours in. The vibe is certainly creepy.
The gun changing its shape dependant on what mode you have it in is very slick.
The gun changing its shape dependant on what mode you have it in is very slick.
Yeah, under gameplay tab there's an 'Assist mode' you have to enable, and then you get several options and sliders to play with.
Dualsense is the real star of the upgrade.
Hope Control 2 (and other games) stick with a 60fps minimum going forward. Just focus on that and please devs, start adding an unlock frame rate option in all games.
Fantastic game, reading \watching all the pickups is mandatory though which will put some off.
Hope Control 2 (and other games) stick with a 60fps minimum going forward. Just focus on that and please devs, start adding an unlock frame rate option in all games.
Fantastic game, reading \watching all the pickups is mandatory though which will put some off.
I really tried giving Control a chance, and Remedy yet another chance, but after reading your posts, basically this happened
The decision was pretty easy for me. I usually start with performance mode amd play for a few minutes and then switch over to graphics mode. Going from 60 fps to 30 fps makes the game feel super stuttery. I usually don't mind playing games at 30 fps if there is no direct comparison but being able to switch back and forth makes the difference very apparent.
The "faked" reflections (cube maps?) are also good enough for me. Yes, the RT is very nice in this game but it's still no contest for me.
I'm the same, I don't mind 30fps, but the game doesn't feel good at 30 FPS like God of War or TLOU2 did on PS4 so I think I'll play at 60...man I wanted to see those reflections...
Is the dual sense implementation that good? I have both versions and might switch if it is.
I really like the haptic feedback you get from walking / running over different surfaces. It reminded me of Astro Bot in the best possible way. The trigger implementation is also pretty cool, although I've toned them a down a little. You can set the resistance to your liking in the menu.
As far as I know there is no path for PS4 save data to PS5 Ultimate Edition. Something about engine changes makes it not compatible.
I was previously annoyed that we couldn't transfer our saves but honestly, Control makes for a very easy replay. The combat is so good it allows you to easily slip into this nice flow similar to what makes endlessly replayable games like Doom and RE4 work so well. I saw the credits again before I even realised it.
Although now I got reminded how disappointingly sudden the ending is. The lack of a final boss is baffling.
I actually really like the combat, it's the closest a game has gotten to reliving the lobby scene from The Matrix, with how the physics and environmental destruction being so intricate. The last game to give me that sort of feeling was Stranglehold but this is more refined and much much more technically impressive.
I posted this somewhere else but one thing I love is how the launching and shield moves will actually lift pieces of the environment up, so it's not just generic rocks. If you're in a room with lots of files and binders then that too will get pulled into your gravitational orbit. If this game is a peek into next gen then I hope we see more dynamic environment and lighting stuff from RT and not just reflections. All that light bounce is so atmospheric and makes things feel alive
The enemies do sort of suck tho
I posted this somewhere else but one thing I love is how the launching and shield moves will actually lift pieces of the environment up, so it's not just generic rocks. If you're in a room with lots of files and binders then that too will get pulled into your gravitational orbit. If this game is a peek into next gen then I hope we see more dynamic environment and lighting stuff from RT and not just reflections. All that light bounce is so atmospheric and makes things feel alive
The enemies do sort of suck tho
The bosses in this game are so frustrating! Especially the one at the end of the AWE DLC.
Jeeeeeeeeeze. The battles are so long and tedious and then you die in like 1 hit. I don't find them fun at all.
Jeeeeeeeeeze. The battles are so long and tedious and then you die in like 1 hit. I don't find them fun at all.
Yeah some of the bosses are bullshit. Especially the Anchor. You can't even jump to the platform where it first opens up because for some reason throwing the clock doesn't do anything. Then there's the fact that if you get hit once you're screwed.
Its even more annoying without m/kb
Its even more annoying without m/kb
I play with RT on, until I die in some difficult encounter. Then switch to 60FPS when replaying that encounter.
Found a minor bug in a certain area, where after having defeated all the enemies, the barriers didn't disappear and I couldn't access the control point, though after going to the previous one and fast travelling back, I repeated the process and cleansed it. And after a while, in the next area, game paused and iIgot a weird error on PS5, and reported it, though it didn't actually crash or anything.
I hate to be that asshole, but I never felt like the bosses were unfair, just that I wasn't good enough yet. I kept trying until I beat them, and found myself better at the game after each one.
The anchor didn't take me too many tries. The one that I found hardest was the optional one late on where you have a flying boss, and a couple of those invisible monsters below him. I know most people hide up in the girders to cheese it, but I grit my teeth and got down to work, and yeah, I felt pretty unstoppable after that. I guess that's how people who stick with Soulslike games feel, not that I'd know.
I'm having the exact same problem with crashing. It's almost every 20-30 minutes on my Series X.
It's usually when I enter into the map, or one of the menus. The game just hard crashes right back to the home screen.
Playing in Performance mode. Boy, is this frustrating.
Think I'm near the end of the game, just got the walkman. Throwing all the points into telekinesis seems to have trivialized the game. I rarely use my gun anymore and just blindly throw crap.
Most of my deaths were front loaded in this game, especially in close quarters. Like at least half the deaths were just rounding a corner and there just happened to be a guy there that 1 shot me. Haven't had that issue in a long time.
Most of my deaths were front loaded in this game, especially in close quarters. Like at least half the deaths were just rounding a corner and there just happened to be a guy there that 1 shot me. Haven't had that issue in a long time.
Today I made it through the sixth story mission. I did many a few side missions after that and my launching ability got extremely OP to the point it can one shot a lot of the weaker enemies.
I managed to beat the Anchor on my first try, but I'm using aim assist, so yeah, there's that. That worm boss at the bottom of the pit took me a few tries though!
I managed to beat the Anchor on my first try, but I'm using aim assist, so yeah, there's that. That worm boss at the bottom of the pit took me a few tries though!
Like this game a lot more than the first try. I played shortly after release but I just wasn't in the mood for a Metroidvania style but now that I'm expecting that I love it
I'm definitely digging this more than I expected I would. It's still a bit pop-pretentious gobbedlygook but the mix of House of Leaves meets The Bureau via Scarfolk scratches an itch. There's nothing really original here but it's absolutely worth Free. ;) The gunplay and Infamous-psychokinesis implementation really feels good. Granted, I've only played a handful of hours but I'll stick with it.
So I tried the game on an old XB1, with gamepass, and how the hell did people play this at launch?!?
I've finished the game 5 times on PC, know all of the encounters by heart and it was still awful. I quickly got to Tomassi and it was a slideshow. I can't imagine how bad that encounter would be for a person brand new to the game.
Made me wonder why they even made the game for XB1 (and I assume PS4?).
I've finished the game 5 times on PC, know all of the encounters by heart and it was still awful. I quickly got to Tomassi and it was a slideshow. I can't imagine how bad that encounter would be for a person brand new to the game.
Made me wonder why they even made the game for XB1 (and I assume PS4?).