No. From what I've read the second DLC is unlocked after a few missions, and the first one after COMPLETING the game... I've always wanted to play them, but I don't think I'll bother for many years if I have to replay the entire game.
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Jeez that would have been amazing. The ultimate edition is very annoying. Even if I'm given it for free, I've got no use for it, the way they're handling the save files.
Well, I'll play the dlc on the backwards compatible version I guess.
Thanks bruv.
There are literally three posts on this 8-post page (50p per page hey) talking about that lol
I'm expecting them to change it to the next Gen version on release day. Would see really strange that such a game isn't optimized for X/S but other low key titles are.
Do we know if the PS5 version will be available as a separate download or if the PS4 version will be updated? Asking because I have the UE ready to download and I can save some time starting the download this week in anticipation of the upgrade.
I'm one of them... 😅
Should've clarified:
Anyone else bummed about the BS excuses being made? It's pretty obvious why they're saying it though... They're using the same arguments for why they "couldn't" offer the next-gen upgrades to users who only owned the regular version.
I mean... This did happen:
505 Games accidentally does what they said was impossible: Upgrades Digital Deluxe owners of Control to Ultimate Edition, then revokes it. News
I am laughing so hard at these updates. I didn't think it could get any dumber.
www.resetera.com
We know it's fucking possible. Just lie and say you worked your ass of to fix and resolve it, and we'll gladly accept that excuse. Just make it work.
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For me its most impressive Ray Tracing game available, Worth it even with 30fps and reduced Resolution.
The complaints from console owners (I have an XSX) are just staggering. Once again to remind people: a $500 complete console versus a PC requiring a $700+ GPU to get comporable quality As far as I'm concerned, this is still WAY better then previous generation performance.
Yeah. The Miles Morales options have spoiled us. Fantastic mode.
The Xbox page for the UE shows something like 80gb for the game, quality should be higher.
The game has to run at 1220p to hit 30fps with ray tracing. Dropping resolution by ~10% isn't going to double the framerate.
As low as $400 even, if you account for the PS5 DE (I'd include the S, but it broadly speaking doesn't support RT, and not in this title anyways).
I was gonna say the same thing. The destruction physics in this game are some of the best I've ever seen, but it surely can't be easy for the poor old CPU to handle.
Wait, saves don't carry over? That is so dumb. I bought the Ultimate Edition but I wish I'd waited to start it now. How did they screw this up so badly?
I'm 6 hours in and I don't want to restart...Guess I'll keep playing the original game. What a mess.
I'm 6 hours in and I don't want to restart...Guess I'll keep playing the original game. What a mess.
Did they really? I haven't noticed a massively reduced pedestrian count, and I think Digital Foundry videos show the same. They lowered the overall resolution and the RT resolution. I think the number of pedestrians was slightly reduced, at best.
I'm sorry I'm still pissed about the saves. Why sell the game early with a next gen upgrade if you can't bring your save game with you?? Surely they realized people would want to do that!
I'm not a kid; I don't have 8 hours lying around to replay where I've gotten to. So infuriating!!
I'm not a kid; I don't have 8 hours lying around to replay where I've gotten to. So infuriating!!
Unless a developer patches an upload/import method into the PS4 version then no saves are compatible with the PS5 version of any game. It's the reason why Spider-Man got such a backlash.
Based on how 505 was going about the UE I never expected them to implement a save import feature from PS4. Really does suck though, especially since they put the ultimate edition of the game out on last gen consoles so early while knowing they weren't going to implement save transfers.
Exactly. People just need to temper their expectations. PC is still the way to go for all the bells and whistles, but it's going to cost a LOT.
I hope those rumors that something might be coming from AMD that's similar are true.
1. They are not rumors.
2. It's not coming any time soon.
3. Remains to be seen how similar it will be.
A little disappointing, although understandable, that ray tracing is limited to reflections only. The full fat RT experience on PC is a sight to behold and personally feel it would be worth dropping sub 1080p to enable it on consoles.
It completely tanks performance on the 6800/6800xt though, so I understand why its missing.
Goes to show what a difference DLSS and Nvidia's better RT hardware makes though. I targeted 60fps with all RT effects enabled on my 3070 thanks to DLSS performance. That's a far more visually complex version of the game, running at a much higher resolution at twice the framerate, so in all we're talking about a generational gap. I understand that 4K DLSS performance is technically 1080p but when the end result looks so close to native 4K, I don't think it matters.
Edit: The graphics mode is actually native 1440p? Yeah, that's a real missed opportunity. Should have gone 1080p and showed off what the engine is capable of. Resolution be damned.
It completely tanks performance on the 6800/6800xt though, so I understand why its missing.
Goes to show what a difference DLSS and Nvidia's better RT hardware makes though. I targeted 60fps with all RT effects enabled on my 3070 thanks to DLSS performance. That's a far more visually complex version of the game, running at a much higher resolution at twice the framerate, so in all we're talking about a generational gap. I understand that 4K DLSS performance is technically 1080p but when the end result looks so close to native 4K, I don't think it matters.
Edit: The graphics mode is actually native 1440p? Yeah, that's a real missed opportunity. Should have gone 1080p and showed off what the engine is capable of. Resolution be damned.
It's coming. Let's just hope it's even half as great as DLSS is!
AMD's DLSS alternative won't be ready to rival Nvidia until after launch
The picture of Big Navi and its ray tracing potential is becoming clearer.
www.pcgamer.com
The DF video on the 60fps RT Spiderman John said he thinks the range at which pedestrians are included in reflections looked to have been reduced, they had shadows in said reflections removed and update rate of pedestrians in reflections looked half rate.
Spider-Man Remastered PS5 vs PS4 Pro + Performance Ray Tracing 60fps Mode Tested!
Alongside Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Insomniac has updated the original Marvel's Spider-Man to run on PlayStation 5. In this detailed analysis, John...
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Reasonable cut backs. This game is really intensive. For a really stable experience at 1440p, 60fps, ultra settings, you need above a 2070 Super, the 3060Ti barely reaches over 70fps.
I imagine the team prioritized a smooth experience over resolution. Specially since a good framerate helps the visual quality too with all the effects the game has.
I expected the Series S to have a 30fps mode with higher resolution though, no RTX is understandable for this type of beast of a game
I imagine the team prioritized a smooth experience over resolution. Specially since a good framerate helps the visual quality too with all the effects the game has.
I expected the Series S to have a 30fps mode with higher resolution though, no RTX is understandable for this type of beast of a game
I know it's definitely coming to PC, but I don't think we've had firm confirmation as to which consoles might support it unless I missed that.It's coming. Let's just hope it's even half as great as DLSS is!
AMD's DLSS alternative won't be ready to rival Nvidia until after launch
The picture of Big Navi and its ray tracing potential is becoming clearer.
I still find it bizarre that I bought and played the game on Xbox but the only way I can get a next gen version for free is though PS+
Feels like my man here has early access. 🧐
No rush though. I will wait for the video to choose my graphics option and then start playing it.
Good to know that 1440p is the target for both modes. Makes the RT one way more appealing (and more sense with the new consoles and how AMD GPUs perform as well).
I played the game at 40 to 60 fps on PC so I could have all the fancy ray tracing effects on at 4K (using DLSS naturally). It played great. I've also played it for a few hours on Xbox One X at 30 fps, and it still played nicely.
Options are great, and many will choose the smoother frame rate of course. It is undoubtedly a shooter, but it's one that was designed to feel and play good at 30 fps. I'm going to replay this on PS5 or Series X most likely to see how it holds up, and I'm going to choose lower framerate and ray tracing again.
1440p for such a demanding game with those effects is more then reasonable.
Been playing lots of 1440p titles on my ps5 and they look fine, especially if the games have good AA solutions which many games have nowadays.
It's been posted already, those DF vids show how demanding this game is even on high end pc hw.
My only real concern is they boost the other details in the game to match the pc high settings or above, the XBX vs PC vid df did had the console version set at detail levels lower then the LOWEST pc setting. With a mix of low and medium settings elsewhere. I really hope they boost visuals across the board.
Been playing lots of 1440p titles on my ps5 and they look fine, especially if the games have good AA solutions which many games have nowadays.
It's been posted already, those DF vids show how demanding this game is even on high end pc hw.
My only real concern is they boost the other details in the game to match the pc high settings or above, the XBX vs PC vid df did had the console version set at detail levels lower then the LOWEST pc setting. With a mix of low and medium settings elsewhere. I really hope they boost visuals across the board.
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For sure, I played it with a 1060 at 1080p medium/mixed, there were places it went as low as 35fps, but loved the game enough to pull through :P
I imagine it'll play smooth on the new machines regardless of the mode.
Nothing official yet, but it being open and cross-platform highly suggests it'll come to the consoles as well.
I've previously argued that this could be a "software" upgrade of sorts, which would essentially eliminate the need for midgen hardware upgrades. Both consoles are powerful enough to last an entire generation anyways.
That a bit of an over exaggeration though. A 3060, which in theory should be a $320 GPU, would probably deliver better results if you enable 2 RT settings in this game. RT in this game hits AMD hardware much harder. Still impressive for a $400-500 console, but you really don't need a 3080 to match these consoles.
I don't have a link but they definitely said that it would be a PC/consoles solution.
Which in turn implies that it's unlikely to be anything close to DLSS. But we'll see.
DLSS is the thing that makes this work on PC. Maxed out, full RT, 60fps+... you just can't do it without it (depending on the resolution, of course).
I can get it all maxed at 1080 with a 2080/2700x combo, 60fps+, with DLSS on. To go higher res I'd need one of the 3000 series, and likely a CPU upgrade too. Expecting anything more from these consoles, without DLSS... is not realistic.
I can get it all maxed at 1080 with a 2080/2700x combo, 60fps+, with DLSS on. To go higher res I'd need one of the 3000 series, and likely a CPU upgrade too. Expecting anything more from these consoles, without DLSS... is not realistic.
The DF video on the 60fps RT Spiderman John said he thinks the range at which pedestrians are included in reflections looked to have been reduced, they had shadows in said reflections removed and update rate of pedestrians in reflections looked half rate.
Spider-Man Remastered PS5 vs PS4 Pro + Performance Ray Tracing 60fps Mode Tested!
Alongside Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Insomniac has updated the original Marvel's Spider-Man to run on PlayStation 5. In this detailed analysis, John...
Sure, but I was replying to the "massive reduction" comment. I think they were pretty smart how they handled it because in practice, it doesn't seem like there's a major difference in the amount of pedestrians.
My 2080 Ti easily surpasses ray traced reflections and transparent reflections at 30 fps at an equivalent internal resolution. So, yeah. To match these results you definitely don't need the more powerful 3080.