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I believe saves continue over for both the PS5 and Series X/S ultimate editions.
Control Ultimate Edition next-gen enhancements detailed News
From 505's support page: https://support.505games.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019202839-What-is-next-gen-about-Control-Ultimate-Edition-on-PlayStation-5-and-Xbox-Series-X-S- On par with expectations I guess, it is a demanding game. Edit:
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Lots of weird stuff here. 1440p, 60 FPS isn't particularly enthralling, nor is 1220p, 30 FPS with RT. I hoped for a bit more, especially given the extra time they've had to work on this, but I suppose this is ultimately fine if those performance targets are actually locked.
The Series S though... that doesn't inspire confidence.
The Series S though... that doesn't inspire confidence.
I thought it was a different SKU including a separate trophy list?
Both modes are 1440p
Control Ultimate Edition next-gen enhancements detailed News
Literally a typo, thats on me. Its 1440p in both modes. Performance Mode ·Targets 60fps performance with 1440p render resolution and 4K output Graphics Mode ·Targets 30fps performance with ray tracing (transparency and reflections) at 1440p render resolution and 4K output
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Was looking forward for a second go at this, but seems like it will run worse than on my PC (RTX 2080). 30fps RT is a no go for me, and 60fps is nice but without RTX, it loses lots of visual impact.
EDIT: I lied. Already on second run. Don't care that much, game is awesome.
EDIT: I lied. Already on second run. Don't care that much, game is awesome.
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Good luck if you think it will be comparable to DLSS in terms of performance and visual quality, better then nothing tho :/
1440p/60, a la demons' souls, then. You'd have to be insane to accept 1220/30 for reflections...
I own the base game + season pass. I really want to play the next-gen version, but the current price on XBL is insulting. Hope it goes on sale again soon, or it gets added to Game Pass as well.
If Control doesn't deserve Ray Tracing...no game does then.
I mean, look at this:
Imagine this throughout the entire game. It'll be glorious.
I get wanting to play it at 60fps though.
Don't worry, once you see what RT will do to a 30fps performance, your insanity will resolve itself.
RT eating 30fps (and 200p, but that's neglectable in the grand scheme of things) for JUST reflections is ridiculous imho.
And i'm all for 30fps games with all the eyecandy I can get, but the occasional reflection does very little to elevate the game's overall visual presentation from its last gen counterpart.
And i'm all for 30fps games with all the eyecandy I can get, but the occasional reflection does very little to elevate the game's overall visual presentation from its last gen counterpart.
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Check the tweet above: RT mode is 1440p as well.
Kind of surprised they couldn't swing 4k/60 for performance on XSX and Ps5 tho.
Kind of surprised they couldn't swing 4k/60 for performance on XSX and Ps5 tho.
Yeah I will be on this one - I think people will be intrigued with what I find and have to say as always. I like remedy games a lot and Northlight - so I cannot wait.
If you look at the performance without RT on PC you can see that 4K 60 is impossible on XSX or PS5. Very impossible. Control is a much more advanced game with a lot of real time effects where other games use baked ones or fake physics interactions.
For just reflections in RT, I think so. If Global Ilumination was in negotiation it would be a much more difficult decision.
RT GI to me is the next-gen effect in Control.
Is this game really that demanding? If this last gen game is limited to 1440p/30fps/RT now... what will happen when the next Remedy game launches?
Is it possible that the engine is limited to what last gen machines could do and it can only be improved so much without completely remaking the game?
Is it possible that the engine is limited to what last gen machines could do and it can only be improved so much without completely remaking the game?
I've not played this yet, worth picking up this ultimate edition or should I just play the standard game on Series X through game pass?
The RT in this game is bananas complex. If you disable it, is fairly light, if a bit CPU heavy.
I recommend watching the deep dive video from DF.
And the next Remedy game will probably be the same if they implement so much RT effects again. The consoles can do RT, but not every effect at the same time. AMD RT implementation have a heavier performance penalty because it does not use specialized hardware for it, when you use it, you "steal" alot of raster performance. Nvidia does it too, but to a much lesser degree.
So from what I understand, but haven't tested, it's a bit of a ballache.
I've downloaded Conrol Base game on PS5, opened my save file and saved over it.
I've now deleted the game, but the save is still on the PS5 console.
Come next week, I'll need to download Control Ultimate (PS4 ver), open my save file and save again.
Then delete Control Ultimate (PS4)
Then I'll need to download Control Ultimate (PS5 ver), open my save file and continue.
Edit - hoh boy, I was wrong - https://support.505games.com/hc/en-...ver-from-Xbox-One-PS4-to-Xbox-Series-X-S-PS5-
This sucks.
That's it? We waited so long for this? 1440p 60 with no RT and 1440p 30 with RT?
Oh boy.
Well, better than the 1220p that went around at least.
Oh boy.
Well, better than the 1220p that went around at least.
Yes, PC for sure. It controls great on mouse/keyboard for one, plus you can easily hold 60FPS with RT and RT GI (missing from consoles) if you use DLSS. I played it through on Steam on my 2080 last year and was well over 60FPS most of the time at 1440p with DLSS (native 900p or something at the settings I was using). Looked great.
It is but I believe it could also be at least partly due to their engine. Quantum Break was hard on ressources too but had some nice effects. Don't know if it's just their engine or if it's just too much for current hardware.
Btw., I hope we can turn off film grain on the console versions.
Oh man, so I have to restart the entire game on my Series X? That just sucks!!
No RT shadows is unfortunate, but expected... Having all at once would've been nice though. It's still awesome.
I just want a dedicated button to swap between graphic modes - no menu faff so I see the glorious changes in real time!
The game is the poster child for DLSS. AMD needs to get on that ASAP.
I do think the RT adds quite a bit to the atmosphere. It's not like you are missing -THAT- much with it off, but I always felt toggling it off was a noticeable change and definitely preferred it on. Many may shrug though and not concern over what RT adds. Played it through on a 2070 S with everything close to max with DLSS at near 60fps(21:9), so you should be fine.
DualSense may be cool tho and even then, as long as 30fps is smooth, I don't think the combat is so demanding that it requires 60 if you want RT on console.
Resolutions are a bit disappointing, honestly. I guess this means AMD needs to implement a DLSS like solution asap, but I don't know it that would be possible to do on consoles. Surprised they don't even mention dynamic resolution scaling, does their engine not do that even on pc?
At least it'll be playable at 60 fps on consoles (I hope the drops are not too severe in that mode) and I haven't played this on my 4k tv yet, so I'll replay sometime with the dlc and new options I guess.
Adding native HDR support would have been cool too but the game looks good enough as is.
At least it'll be playable at 60 fps on consoles (I hope the drops are not too severe in that mode) and I haven't played this on my 4k tv yet, so I'll replay sometime with the dlc and new options I guess.
Adding native HDR support would have been cool too but the game looks good enough as is.
Aye, RT is glorious in Control, but the reflections are the lesser part by A LOT. GI and shadows give the game an eerie ambience, reflections just save you the oddities of SSR distortion when moving the camera.
Is the dlc playable immediately with a fresh save file? As in I can immediately jump into the dlc without having to get to a certain point in the game?
If not, then ugh, the ultimate edition may as well not exist. Really annoyed at no smart delivery for this game. I got the original 1000/1000 gamerscore on the Xbox One version of the game and I held out on playing the dlc, hoping I could continue the game on Series X - that won't happen unforch. Well, i may do it via backwards compatibility, but I'm hoping to do it on the ultimate edition.
If not, then ugh, the ultimate edition may as well not exist. Really annoyed at no smart delivery for this game. I got the original 1000/1000 gamerscore on the Xbox One version of the game and I held out on playing the dlc, hoping I could continue the game on Series X - that won't happen unforch. Well, i may do it via backwards compatibility, but I'm hoping to do it on the ultimate edition.
This really sucks! I only want to play the DLC's, not replaying the whole game.
This so where I'm at too. Did such a 180 yesterday when the news of PS+ was announced!
I'm really excited to see what appears to be a showcase of ray tracing on the PS5, but equally dubious of the frame rate in this mode
Come through, Remedy!
Indeed unlocked framerates are the worst, without VRR anyway.