Hardware unboxed about Control DLSS (DF Video):
BTW HU is AMD-biased.
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Control PC performance thread
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Hardware unboxed about Control DLSS (DF Video):
BTW HU is AMD-biased.
Finished Control, ever since the patch I've had no stutter at all in DX12 it was a great experiance
if you have dlss turned on this is what you see because that's how dlss works.
it is not possible to run the game at native resolution and get 60 FPS with raytracing on. Thus dlss makes it possible by reconstructing the image in real time from a lower internal rendering resolution. I play at 1440p dlss and with everything maxed minus volumetric lighting at medium I get 60 FPS solid except some fights dip to 55 but it isn't noticeable.
Ah yes. I'm dumb. Unchecked DLSS and was able to render at 1440p.
Still not loving some of these textures though. Just so much noise. Certain walls literally look like their surfaces are moving.
Just part of the charm of the game, the building looks and feels like a living organism.
Lmao. Honestly, I've thought about a few times. When I couldn't quite tell if I was seeing a glitch or something that was part of the game.
Oh well, 90% of the time the game looks really good. All the effects when a firefight gets going are especially amazing.
Also posted this question in the OT
I played some more last night on PC and whenever a new quest or side quest pops up it says "hold G to track" but when I do nothing happens. There isn't a keybind for this action and nothing shows bound to G so I don't know what to do. I have to manually go into the menu to switch quests.
Any ideas? Has anyone else had this problem?
I played some more last night on PC and whenever a new quest or side quest pops up it says "hold G to track" but when I do nothing happens. There isn't a keybind for this action and nothing shows bound to G so I don't know what to do. I have to manually go into the menu to switch quests.
Any ideas? Has anyone else had this problem?
I updated to the newest nvidia driver and tried it again with rtx on medium using a 1080ti. Firstly - it didn't crash anymore which was the reason for using an older driver but also the performance seemed to Be much better. On 1080p I was getting 30+ even during battles. Has anyone else had similar results with the new driver ?
I mention it in the review for the game, in the OG video in a section after describing what they all do.
DLSS here does not look like previous implementations and I think it is pretty obvious.
It still looks like an upscaled vaseline-smeared image which will never be as good as native rendering. I just hope that DLSS is only a temporary band aid until hardware is good enough to do all this in native resolution. I really don't like how PC gamers are accepting subpar image quality all of the sudden, where as before we used to strive for clearest and most pristine IQ possible.
But with companies going heavy on streaming tech and people "not noticing any image difference", as well as DLSS and other upscaling techniques, some of us who like pristine image quality will have dark future indeed.
It is an option - not a mandate or a virtue. It is merely a tool in the belt of tools to allow users to tailour a game experience to their liking. I do not think it represents a change in the strivings of pc players as a whole and I definitely not think it represents users accepting subpar image quality.
How is there a dark future there when you are on PC and have the choice to not use it?
This will be the first game I try when I finish my Ryzen 3950X / 2080 Ti build. Wonder if I'll be able to get constant 4K/60 with all the raytracing goodies with that setup.
DLSS (or other forms of upscaling) is pretty much mandatory to have any kind of decent performance if you want to use RTX features.
We have choice NOW, we don't know how landscape will look like in 5 or 10 years. We once had choice between physical and digital copies of games, but now physical is dead on PC and consoles will soon follow.
How on earth is it mandatory? I am pretty sure any ray traced feature is the same as turning on any form of expensive effect in any game. Some effects are expensive and require resolution concessions for certain framerate targets. Those are all subjective and not objective mandatory things, and are all optional.
You are arguing in absolutes regarding options of choice, which does not align.
That reads like conspiracy theory or rampant speculation. In 5 to 10 years every game will use machine learned inferenced image reconstruciton and force it on the user no matter what?
Really? Read that aloud and tell me it is a reasonable stance.
With current hardware the only real choice is either [DLSS + RTX on] or [native rendering + RTX off]. It's really obvious that RTX features are meant to be used with upscaling in mind and that's how games with RTX are being developed right now.
Claiming that enabling RTX has the same performance impact as enabling raster effects in games is a flat out lie. No raster effect in game cuts performance in half, usually you need to go from lowest possible settings (intended for potato PCs) to highest possible settings to see performance cut in half.
Companies are banking big on streaming and similar techs for the future, not sure where you see conspiracy in this or what you were even trying to say? I'm glad you have no worries at all for the future of gaming, but others who are more traditionalist, do
You write in an incredibly toxic and self-assured manner which is not really fitting for civilised discussion by the way. How am I supposed to respond to something like that exactly with something other than outright hostility?
Please go look up the effect for turning on and off cloud rendering in assassins creed odyssey (Ultra to Off). Please do.
This discussion can't possibly end in my favor, so to prevent any sort of dogpiling or other unpleasantness let's just end it right here.
Man... I feel like if I don't have a RTX card I won't be able to enjoy the game.
There's so many graphical options I don;t understand anymore too. all these rtx and dlss settings that I have no idea about...
There's so many graphical options I don;t understand anymore too. all these rtx and dlss settings that I have no idea about...
No, it's not. There are more than a handful of games where enabling some raster effect will in fact result in a bigger performance hit than enabling some RT effects in "RTX" games. The baseline performance may be different which may mean that you'll be getting higher fps still but the percentages can be comparable. It can also be argued that you're getting less visual improvement from such raster options generally than you're getting from new RT options.
It's almost like GPU's of the future will have enough power for you to run RTX features ON while maintaining Native Rendering. Just like Crysis, and other forward thinking games. You would prefer that game makers limit themselves to make their games only relevant to a specific slice of GPU history? Cmon, especially on the PC space, you should know better. OPTIONS DONT HURT ANYONE
It's really depressing for how many people PC gaming can, and should be only about those specific things that they care about. If they only care about sharpness than any AA solutions that makes image less sharp are useless and shoudn't even be an option, aliasing and other image artifacts be dammed.
If they only care about native resolutions than any solutions that aim to make non-native resolutions look better are useless and shoudn't even be an option, people with lower end hardware, or targeting higher framerates be dammed.
And so on, and so forth...
Picked up the game today. After all the talk about performance on RTX and having to use DLSS or other sub-native rendering and cutting back on settings, I was a bit worried about my old GTX-1080. So I did turn a few things down (Dictator's "optimized settings"; volumetrics and reflections to medium, MSAA off, everything else maxxed), but at full res 1440p, I'm still getting a little over 60fps, at least in the opening areas. I'm happy.
I did noticed that texture loading can be a slight issue, but coming off an SSD, I don't think I'm seeing it nearly as bad as some others (saw a couple videos that were pretty bad). Not really a big deal, only when I look at stuff like the paintings up close.
I did noticed that texture loading can be a slight issue, but coming off an SSD, I don't think I'm seeing it nearly as bad as some others (saw a couple videos that were pretty bad). Not really a big deal, only when I look at stuff like the paintings up close.
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I assume you have ray-traced reflections enabled? They replace screen-space ones, so the SSR setting is disabled when using them.
Now I'm pissed off. I just spent several hours taking down two optional bosses and a bunch of smaller enemies in between and what does the game do? Crashes and corrupts my save. With the Mission Select I am able to start over but it's going to be a pain to get all that back.
Played the first hour last night and I'm quite pleasantly surprised. I'm playing at 1080p with the DF settings and Nvidia Sharpen on a 1440p monitor and I'm seeing a stable 60fps on my GTX 1080, I was really expecting to have more trouble running it. I may end up getting dips later in the game when combat encounters start cranking up, but so far so good!
At 1080p, you can max out reflections and still hit 60fps on a GTX1080. I've got mine running that way (the only setting turned down is volumetrics, and only 2x MSAA), with output resolution at 1440, but rendering resolution at 1080, and I'm getting 70+. I was getting around 60fps running at full-res 1440p, but dropped it down to 1080p when I moved to the couch to play through Steam Link. Still plays fine.
With Volumetrics, GI and Shadow res any higher than Medium and 2x MSAA I still get noticeable dips in certain combat encounters, so far I'm finding the DF settings to work best.
Just started this game last night and I'm confused on a few things:
-I can't turn on DLSS, options screen is telling me "DLSS requires an NVIDIA RTX GPU" and I've got a 2080, GeForce Experience shows it as set to "Performance"
-I can't edit any of the ray tracing options, GeForce Experience shows all of the options are "On", but in-game the options screen tells me "Ray tracing requires DX12 and a graphics card with support for the DXR API" and there's a lock icon on the dropdown for the preset
I'd really like to turn off some (if not all) of the RT options because right now I'm not able to hit a consistent 60fps with a 2080 and a Ryzen 3800x and that seems...not great.
-I can't turn on DLSS, options screen is telling me "DLSS requires an NVIDIA RTX GPU" and I've got a 2080, GeForce Experience shows it as set to "Performance"
-I can't edit any of the ray tracing options, GeForce Experience shows all of the options are "On", but in-game the options screen tells me "Ray tracing requires DX12 and a graphics card with support for the DXR API" and there's a lock icon on the dropdown for the preset
I'd really like to turn off some (if not all) of the RT options because right now I'm not able to hit a consistent 60fps with a 2080 and a Ryzen 3800x and that seems...not great.
Did you launch it in DirectX12? Is your windows OS up to date? Which driver version are you on and have you tried reinstalling it? Those are the only things that come to my mind that could cause those specific issues.
Great specs though, you should have a great time once you've ironed this out.
Figured this out thanks to you, Windows hadn't installed a major update for some reason. Once I fixed that I got the option to launch in DX11/DX12 and was able to set specific RT settings and turn on DLSS. Thanks!
Brill, enjoy the game! Just completed it myself and had a blast!
8700k & 1080ti here. Playing at 1440p with near max settings, looks amazing and runs great - generally.
BUT in menus, it started to lag. Not only a bit, but significantly. Like freeze for seconds. This is all kinds of weird.
BUT in menus, it started to lag. Not only a bit, but significantly. Like freeze for seconds. This is all kinds of weird.
I know this is late but I just bought the game and tried using this method but I'm having a problem where after I edit the renderer file and launch the game it changes back to the default settings in the file.
I tried making the changes and making the file read-only but the game won't launch if I do that.
Anyone knows a solution?
Edit: Actually, I now see the game resets the display settings every time I launch it.. how do I fix this?
I feel like i only get double buffering in dx12. When i tried turning off vsync and using borderless mode to enable triple buffering i get tearing. is there no good way to force triple buffering with the game?
What is your goal when you say that you want to "enable triple buffering" ?
- V-Sync that doesn't lock to divisors of the refresh rate?
- Frame rates that go above the refresh rate without screen tearing?
If you want frame rates that go above the refresh rate without screen tearing, I don't think that's an option in DX12 unless the developer implements it themselves.
Yeah, what the fuck happened? Why can't I launch the game from a Steam custom shortcut? What did they do? I never had this problem and I was happily taking my own screenshots...
"Please launch the game using the Epic Games Launcher and a valid Epic Games User Account. Shutting down" after the intro scenes.
"Please launch the game using the Epic Games Launcher and a valid Epic Games User Account. Shutting down" after the intro scenes.
Yikes that's always been my main concern with the Epic store; I actually use big picture mode to play on my 4k TV in a separate room. I've got my computer rigged so when I connect my bluetooth controller and hit the home button it launches Big Picture and switches audio/video output to the TV, so there's no back and forth needed between rooms. Not impossible to do otherwise but Steam has features directly built to handle this scenario.
yeah they added EGS DRM, really sucks as I just launched the DX12 executable directly and it worked fine before but now won't work unless I launch directly from EGS. blah
Kinda trash considering I was running it through Steam for the fps counter and built-in screenshot feature. The latter isn't much of an issue anymore since we have photo mode, but with other software like RivaTuner the fps overlay appears on screenshots, so if I ever use it guess I have to remember to turn it off every time now. Might not even bother with it.