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Control PC performance thread
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I think overriding the vsync won't work in this game except for adaptive sync, but in my experience the game's own double buffered vsync provides a pretty smooth 30fps gameplay, which really surprised me. I didn't measure frametimes, though, just going by feel, but even going back and forth between 60 and 30, which should be jarring by itself, it felt nice.
So just use RTSS to cap it at 30 and make sure it won't shoot up to 60fps in less intense scenes and use the game's own vsync.
Yo, cap your frame rate at 30 before your card melts. I get worried when my card pushes past 75 because of my smaller case.
You really don't want to enable any RTX on a 1080 Ti. The performance hit is bad..... trust me, I've tried.
You have the latest GeForce experience update as well as the new drivers that just came out? Updating both made it work for me.
Is there a combination of AA in the Nvidia control panel that's less taxing than the native MXAA? I tried in-game MXAA off with MFAA on, but it wasn't cutting it. Motion looked terrible.
(I guess this goes for any other settings in-game vs. Nv control panel)
(I guess this goes for any other settings in-game vs. Nv control panel)
Are you on the newest drivers? There was one released yesterday for Control, iirc
thanks, so to recap, 30 fps limit on riva and v-sync ON from game options, right?
i'm still going to try various method to achieve the impossible 60 frame rock solid...
every details on low here i come...
Yeah. I managed to make it work in 3840x1607 ultrawide by first loading that resolution on desktop and then ingame switching to borderless windowed.
I will check out other rendering modes later [4K output, 1440p rendering, with FOV mod to make it more pleasant with my bigass screen].
If this works I'm going to be so, so happy. I'm going to try this for Division 2 and for this.I think I solved these!!
Looks like with the last 2 nvidia drivers when they added the low latency mode setting something got broke with DX12 and the game setting the number of prerendered frames, they rolled the old "max prerendered frames" setting into the Low latency setting in nvidia control panel. now there are no option to directly set this number. But there are three settings for low latency, off (default) app sets number of frames but this appears to be broken and it's not happening with control (and other DX12 games I have seen) if you turn this setting to on, it sets max prerendered frames to 1 and this fixed the hitches for me, just played 45 mins and running around and in heavy combat no stutters/hitches. Give it a try and let me know if it helps you both!
Don't use ultra low latency (third option) as this doesn't queue at all and pushes frame out just in time and will negatively impact smoothness for the sake of latency.,
The 2xMSAA offered in-game is surprisingly light to run, did you try that? 4x is really heavy, but 2x only costs around 5fps, according to Nvidia's guide. That's really cheap for Multisampling.
I ran into this problem aswell are there any fix? I want to be able to use integer sharping
Yeah, if you're playing on DX11 that should be good enough. Didn't try DX12 yet.
But honestly, with a 1070, try reducing rendering resolution first, and keep everything else maxed, perhaps maybe except for Volumetric Lighting on Medium.
I personally find that a lot more pleasing to play than 1080p 30fps, and you don't lose all of the cool effects that you would for 1080p60. It'll look softer, but more temporally stable than 1080p60 with everything turned off.
I'm only on a 1060, though, maybe the settings you'll need for 1080p60 will look significantly better than I'm expecting.
i hate 30 fps on pc, especially in a game like this.
quantum was the last game that force me to play at 30 fps...
Yeah, I just used reconstruction in Quantum Break as well and I don't regret it. The 60fps really do make a huge difference.
I find it really hard to convince myself to play at 30 if 60 is doable, even if I need to lower resolution. I only take the opposite approach of increasing settings/resolution and locking to 30 if my CPU makes it impossible to get stable 60 no matter the settings.
Tried this on my rig running a 1080. Replayed a section of combat where I was getting a lot of stutters, especially when stuff would get thrown or explosives would go off. So far things have stayed smooth. Fingers crossed this does it.I think I solved these!!
Looks like with the last 2 nvidia drivers when they added the low latency mode setting something got broke with DX12 and the game setting the number of prerendered frames, they rolled the old "max prerendered frames" setting into the Low latency setting in nvidia control panel. now there are no option to directly set this number. But there are three settings for low latency, off (default) app sets number of frames but this appears to be broken and it's not happening with control (and other DX12 games I have seen) if you turn this setting to on, it sets max prerendered frames to 1 and this fixed the hitches for me, just played 45 mins and running around and in heavy combat no stutters/hitches. Give it a try and let me know if it helps you both!
Don't use ultra low latency (third option) as this doesn't queue at all and pushes frame out just in time and will negatively impact smoothness for the sake of latency.,
5160x2160
(with a 2080TI)
20-30 fps, no MSAA, diffuse lighting on
25-35 fps, no MSAA, diffuse lighting off
Maybe I just need to get to a busier area
downsampled to 3440x1440
Will probably need to turn some things down, disable RTX stuff, and lower my resolution. I couldn't get DLSS to work at these higher 21:9 resolutions though.
(with a 2080TI)
20-30 fps, no MSAA, diffuse lighting on
25-35 fps, no MSAA, diffuse lighting off
Maybe I just need to get to a busier area
downsampled to 3440x1440
Will probably need to turn some things down, disable RTX stuff, and lower my resolution. I couldn't get DLSS to work at these higher 21:9 resolutions though.
Huh. The game has some ugly-ass tearing although I'm using a G-Sync monitor. I'm playing in fullscreen with 960p DLSS enabled. Any clues? Is it because of DX12?
Other than that, I'm quite happy with the performance with RT Reflections on. RTX2060/i7-4790K/16GB DDR3-2400
Other than that, I'm quite happy with the performance with RT Reflections on. RTX2060/i7-4790K/16GB DDR3-2400
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Yes, DLSS does support 21:9. It upscale from 960p on my UW 1440p.
Damn my oc 980ti and 6700k combo can't hold 60fps at native 1080p/max settings with frequent dips into the low 50's/high 40's during ingame cutscenes and battles. I tried lowering ssr to medium and AA to off and used nvidias built-in fxaa but still get drops below 60 so i said fuck it cranked everything up and used the resolution scaler in the options scaling a 768p to 1080p and the performance shot up to 70-80fps during cutscenes/battles with a slightly blurrier image quality that doesn't look that bad honestly especially when using the sharpening filter. Definitely gonna give it a replay on my future rtx rig when nvidia releases their next-gen cards to play it in all its glory at a much better image quality.
I was just going over the guide and saw that! I was surprised — I figured the gulf between off and 2 would be and huge while 2 and 4 being small. Totally backwards. I'll enable the 2x. Would it be advisable to use FXAA on top of that or just forget it?
This wouldn't be necessary if I could run 1440p even close to stable with a 1080 Ti...
also, how do the Nv control panel custom resolutions work? I'd consider dropping from 1080p to keep performance rock solid, but I'd like to sharpen from a 900p image rather than a 768p one if possible
I am glad to hear it looks better, I just played over lunch so only had 45 mins of testing but areas and combat arena I was in was stuttering bad before on my 2080ti, super smooth after turning on low latency. Will play a bunch more this evening and report back how it goes over longer play session.
It was already set to "On" on my PC, I set it when the setting appeared, and got ton of stutter yesterday, I'll try Ultra tonight.I think I solved these!!
Looks like with the last 2 nvidia drivers when they added the low latency mode setting something got broke with DX12 and the game setting the number of prerendered frames, they rolled the old "max prerendered frames" setting into the Low latency setting in nvidia control panel. now there are no option to directly set this number. But there are three settings for low latency, off (default) app sets number of frames but this appears to be broken and it's not happening with control (and other DX12 games I have seen) if you turn this setting to on, it sets max prerendered frames to 1 and this fixed the hitches for me, just played 45 mins and running around and in heavy combat no stutters/hitches. Give it a try and let me know if it helps you both!
Don't use ultra low latency (third option) as this doesn't queue at all and pushes frame out just in time and will negatively impact smoothness for the sake of latency.,
Trying to troubleshoot this game without Steam forums is a fucking pain.
Despite my framerate apparently being around 80hz, it feels like 40hz. Then when I switch on DLSS, framerates are reported near identical, but blatantly the game is smooth as butter....... what's going on, any ideas?
Despite my framerate apparently being around 80hz, it feels like 40hz. Then when I switch on DLSS, framerates are reported near identical, but blatantly the game is smooth as butter....... what's going on, any ideas?
Usually I don't stress too much about it, as long as it looks good and plays well I'm good, even with 30fps. Thanks for the help.
I don't have d3dx.ini in Control's program files...? Am I missing something obvious (a different file location, DX11/12 differences)?
Is it frame pacing? I can't use DLSS but I've noticed that sometimes 60fps looks like 60fps and sometimes....... it doesn't?
i'd rather have framerate, so i dropped rendering res to 1080p, upped the MSAA to 4x (was only using 2x before) and capped at 60. Card stays in the high 80s now, which is fine (note, this is AMD's Tjunction temp, which is 10-15C higher than standard readings).
IQ definitely took a hit but at least my PC isn't melting.
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Hey, thanks for this! Been playing it like this and having a great time.
Lemme tell ya, it's hard searching google for technical help on this game with a name like "control".
That's my max too, yes.
RTX whoopin my ass. ~55-65. Oddly game isn't putting more than 80% on the GPU which seems odd.
5160x2160
(with a 2080TI)
20-30 fps, no MSAA, diffuse lighting on
25-35 fps, no MSAA, diffuse lighting off
Maybe I just need to get to a busier area
downsampled to 3440x1440
Will probably need to turn some things down, disable RTX stuff, and lower my resolution. I couldn't get DLSS to work at these higher 21:9 resolutions though.
Jim, once you get your pistol, and are able to use your ability you can say goodbye to those FPS you're getting now! I started off at 5120x2880 on my RTX Titan, and i was like "hey this is not bad lol," but then it just went downhill after that. Had to settle down on 4k for now, or at least until we get some SLI bits that work.
9900K (avg 50C)
64gb RAM (games seems to use 13gb)
2080Ti SLI (not SLI compatible, GPU avg 45C)
DX12
1440p res, 960p render
High Quality Preset
Texture Res: Ultra
Film Grain: Off
RTX On: High
Avg: 16-20 fps
RTX Off
Avg: 40-80fps (mostly depends on the room size, can dip to 30-35 fps if I'm viewing an entire room diagonally)
Same results when lowering res to 1080p and/or switching to DX11. I'm just not getting a consistent framerate, but it doesn't dip below 30fps
64gb RAM (games seems to use 13gb)
2080Ti SLI (not SLI compatible, GPU avg 45C)
DX12
1440p res, 960p render
High Quality Preset
Texture Res: Ultra
Film Grain: Off
RTX On: High
Avg: 16-20 fps
RTX Off
Avg: 40-80fps (mostly depends on the room size, can dip to 30-35 fps if I'm viewing an entire room diagonally)
Same results when lowering res to 1080p and/or switching to DX11. I'm just not getting a consistent framerate, but it doesn't dip below 30fps
Something's not right there.
3440x1440 with roughly that same DX12 setup + DLSS + RTX High ON + Detail enhancement or w/e I'm at 55-65 FPS at all times.
One GPU.
Considering he hasn't posted since, I'mma assume his card melted.
I personally wouldn't add FXAA on top of it, but that's just because to me 2xMSAA is already good enough, I don't think it has any negative effects.
Custom resolutions work like you'd expect, just create one (you need to disable DSR first if you have it enabled) in the Change resolution part of Nvidia Control Panel and you're good to go.
However, I wonder if 900p with bilinear scaling to 1080p would actually look better than 768p reconstructed. I'm not entirely sure, but it's worth trying.
Glad to know I could help!
This FPS is already too low :P Just wanted to see what it would be if I maxed everything and went for broke.
Will probably have to give up 21:9 so I can use DLSS + 4K + a little sharpening so I can have RTX on... because man, RTX looks SO much better.
I've resolved it - had to reverify the integrity of the files to fix the issue
It seems to be something to do with changing settings in game in a specific way such that it is screwing up a file after it...
It's fine now and I'm back to about 80hz variable refresh, 1440p, all "maxed" except no film grain, no msaa, RTX without contact hardening shadows and debris.
I imagine the framerate will tank once I get to some action sequences, but we'll see.
I think I might be avoiding frametiming issues thanks to gsync... I'm not really sure. Not tried RTSS, but will try it later and see if I notice a difference
Really weird, I'll have to look into this. Even Geforce is recommending the highest settings with MSAA off.
How's your performance in general? I have the same setup but with a GTX 1080, and I'm curious how I'd get on.
IF you stayed at that res, it would go down even lower later haha. Buy yea it's what i'm doing right now (playing @ 4k and it's around 30 FPS with MSAA @ 2x and RTX on), although i hate to sacrifice quality for screenshots, so i don't use DLSS, but not gonna lie it looks pretty darn good in motion. Hard to tell a difference unless directly comparing between on and off DLSS.
Anyone else getting a weird black band in the middle of the screen when using the menu? I didn't have this issue when playing on my PC display (an ultrawide z35), but now getting this game breaking bug when attempting to play on my 4k tv
Edit: This was resolved by restarting my PC
Edit: This was resolved by restarting my PC
Oh, that's great! Really wishing I had Gsync for this one. I feel like the motion blur and grain (not just the feature, but the reflections and shadows) makes any performance inconsistency on more noticeable. Glad you got it working as expected with Gsync to clean up the hitches.
Forgive my ignorance, but when you say you reverified the integrity of the files, what does that entail?
I also play on my tv, but i don't get that glitch. What's your tv model? I'm on Samsung 85Q900 and no problems so far at least.
Maybe try lowering your HZ rate to 59HZ and see if that helps?!
For any Steam Controller / Steam Input folks - sadly the game has no simultaneous Mouse + Gamepad control, and the normal gamepad right stick controls are so awful that mouse-like joystick will not function well enough
Thankfully, direct mapping of M&KB works perfectly and you are not missing out on anything with regards to analogue movement. Overlay works without issue and EGS apparently doesn't need to be open to launch the game, so easy to add to Steam.
My controller layout is the same as Gamepad - but with added gyro support, little tune up to the right pad, jump and dodge on grips for combat banter
EGS (and Steam if you need it for other games), has a "verify game files" function. If you select the option it will quickly sweep through your game files, and if it finds corrupt / missing files, it will redownload those parts. It can solve quite a few odd problems when you get desperate, so worth a try if you are concerned something really odd is happening
Thankfully, direct mapping of M&KB works perfectly and you are not missing out on anything with regards to analogue movement. Overlay works without issue and EGS apparently doesn't need to be open to launch the game, so easy to add to Steam.
My controller layout is the same as Gamepad - but with added gyro support, little tune up to the right pad, jump and dodge on grips for combat banter
EGS (and Steam if you need it for other games), has a "verify game files" function. If you select the option it will quickly sweep through your game files, and if it finds corrupt / missing files, it will redownload those parts. It can solve quite a few odd problems when you get desperate, so worth a try if you are concerned something really odd is happening
Not sure what to do at this point. My rig is just getting overall wack FPS at the highest setting at 1440p, and lowering settings strangely doesn't change the outcome. I'm not sure if it's because I have 3 monitors, or 2 GPUs, or it's a CPU problem or what. I tried re-verifying the game. Maybe an uninstall/reinstall will do something.
