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Control is probably coming to Game Pass [update: or not, Remedy says no announcement planned]
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This is probably why Remedy put out a tweet directly contradicting Phil, now people are just going to wait for the official announcement of its coming to Game Pass instead of buying it now for full price.
Well that doesn't really convince me a significant amount of people know about this so we can agree to disagree there. The game will continue to sell poorly regardless.
why?.....didn't they think consequences for Remedy? I' mean this wasn't some random social media guy who makes a mistake. this was Phil Spencer.
They kill the holiday season of a GOTY candidate....
C'mon...
I'm sure this is stopping all them PS4 and PC only players from buying the game.
Oh wait.
How come the boss of Xbox can be so careless with the bottom line of its partners? Partners that the worked with closely for more than a decade too.
Baffling.
Baffling.
Because this is something that will evidently reduce their number of regular sales throughout the Holiday season.
I mean even if this didnt get out, I doubt the holiday would help control much. Remady is a prostege studio. their games review well, but never sell well.
Remedy said they are in a good position with steady sales, so I'll take their word for it.
No and even if they were I believe it's up to 505 whether this game hits game pass or not.
Without even getting into hypotheticals, when these things are announced is part of the negotiation. There is little chance 505 would want this revealed before the new year. If Control is heading to GP, MS just violated their contract. If not, MS just damaged potential sales.
This is December, lots of games are sold, GOTY awards are handed out, Game Awards happen, etc, and Game Pass has millions of subscribers. There are, in fact, a lot of sales possibly on the line here, especially for an underperforming game that stands to benefit from renewed critical attention.
Like I said, this was a bad mistake that has very real consequences.
Fully expect it'll hit gamepass, but I don't blame remedy for not wanting people to know that yet.
Do you think this will actually have an effect on Xbox sales of the game? Digitally, it's currently $60 and just came off a sale. Xbox users that were likely to buy it would have been considering the $38 dollar digital price or various other physical sales of the game.
I understand Phil misstepping in talking about the deal and how that can be a bit of a pain but it's a game that commercially was already having a mediocre reception and a casual user isn't likely to see anything that's been said today. I can't imagine it's going to have that much of an impact in regards to sales on Xbox.
We have no idea if the game is going to be included on Game Pass for PC.
Why are people acting like this is the end of the world? People make mistakes, 505 and Remedy are getting paid to have the game on Game Pass and everyone will forget about this in a month.
Because it has reall impact on the company Microsoft has a partnership? Cant you see that?
Again, a critical darling (at least to some) stands to benefit a lot in December. And even if that wasn't the case, it's December, when a ton of games are sold.
MS screwed up, and it will hurt the game's sales. The degree will never be known, but it's not zero, and for a game that has underperformed already those sales matter.
That doesn't mean MS or Phil are monsters or anything of the sort; people make mistakes. This mistake has a financial cost (and if the game is coming to GP, probably a specific one), and I fully expect MS to make it right.
You really think the Head of Xbox ,in an extremely casual setting talking about his favorite games of the year, actively decided to sabotage a publisher's game with the forethought that it was the holiday/GOTY season and his comment about it coming to Game Pass would have even more of a negative effect on the games as a result??
That's a tin-foil hat conspiracy level take, and it's just plain wrong.
Dude made a mistake. Is it going to cost 505 and probably MS a bit? Sure, but mistakes happen.
Because it's insignificant and the concern in this thread exists because it's Xbox.
Again this will be completely forgotten in a month.
Ah, so you finaly pull that card.
You know, there is no problem in call some one out when they fucked up, no need to defend him.
Don't do this.
A mistake was made, that mistake has consequences, MS will do what it needs to do to make it right. As the most valuable company in the world they can afford to take responsibility for their actions, and I frankly don't understand why anyone would think they shouldn't.
It stands to benefit during sales, something it just came off of. The game struggled at $60 which is where it's currently at on the Xbox store. The fact it's coming to Game Pass doesn't change what PS4 owners are doing.
MS will absolutely be doing something to make up for it to maintain good will with 505 and Remedy but it's not the scorched Earth situation that has been discussed here.
I'm not saying they won't do something to make up for it. I'm saying the reaction in this thread is overblowing the situation.
They will do "something to make up for it" because they are financially liable for damages, full stop.
um thats a prity hard to prove.
"repeat after me "we are in the vast minority"
most people will have never heard that statement from phil.
Because lord Phil can do no wrong. Remedy should be thankful he even mentioned their game.
That is certainly true for some posts, but saying there are no damages and MS would only make this right as a goodwill gesture is seriously downplaying the situation.
The truth, as usual, is in the middle.
It's that serious?
Anyway MS have all the resources in the world to make up for this. No need to make relationships worse with anybody
there is a equal chance Remady lets it slide. think of it this way, the last hit they had, sales wise, was the max pain games. at this point, they are a prostige studio, there games revew well, but never sell well. ms is one of the few companies that might give them money to make a new game.
Like I said before, if the game is coming to Game Pass, MS just violated their contract with 505. Yes, that's serious, and probably has a specific amount of damages associated with it.
If the game is not coming to Game Pass, MS is still liable for lost potential earnings, which is an issue I assume 505 and MS's legal teams will come to a mutual agreement on.
Shit like this happens, it'll be fine, but mistakes sometimes have consequences. MS is perfectly capable of living up to their responsibilities.
They don't need to "prove" anything. The possibility is plenty in this situation.
Why would the idea of MS having to honor their contracts or partner agreements bother anyone?
Yeah, this was a surprising silly mistake on Phil, I'm 99% convinced Control will be discounted in a Game Awards sale and the game won't be on Gamepass before that so, I can see a couple of phone calls right now but it's something Xbox and 505 have to sort out.
Thanks for the explanation.
Yeah interesting situation. Phil probably more careful from now on lmao
wouldnt that depend on how it was written though? if ms was given the right to announce it, it might not be a violation. ether way its small potatoes for ms.