So, even at best she's saying "people who looked into Buck Angel's bullshit more than I did are just looking to find a reason to hate him".
So true. Usually its going as
"These people"? You're doing nothing to quell the divide you act like you're above.
Which podcasters complain about uppity minorities? I'll be sure to avoid them
Just saying that the people who made the video that's been used to say "cancel culture is not really a thing" for months now, even they agree cancel culture DOES exist in this context.
Might not agree with elements of them but appreciate seeing your posts. I was willing to remain eh but supportive until the Buck inclusion, response and the Buck and Ellis blocks here. Perhaps it's having been through a particularly trying festive season but this really felt like two videos that warranted clear separation between them. I found it genuinely hard to take those portions sincerely, though appreciated the breakdown around her own tweets. As you might expect I'd never think harassment is validated for anything she's done, so for me it's always been about discussions here and supporting her directly. Where she's obviously endearing (though, again, the presentation is evidently engineered toward this) and genuinely apologetic it definitely works but as before the Ellis and Buck chunks were just a slog honestly, and felt like it was less about the genuine criticisms levelled and more turning on the bombast again to hype up things again.
I appreciate you're almost certainly unaware but these collection of words is practically a meme at this point in this specific case.
"These people"? Fuck yourself
What's there to say to a post that's been put out almost verbatim for every single thread around her issues and the NB community?
What 'mob' is there in this thread and why do you feel confident stoking a divide you're wholly apart from?
I think you have to ask why you've placed yourself as an arbiter of who that is and what contributes positively towards 'the cause' (??). Like, non-binary people feel differently about this video, from outright rejection to enjoying it and believing it a good capping off of these topics - with the usual spectrum inbetween. So how are you determining which of us are the mob and which are being positive additions to this nebulous cause?
I saw another one doing the same but gonna use this post as an example, can people stop doing the whole "all of the people disagreeing with Contra just don't care about the nuance. "
You're the one that applied it to this thread. You keep going back to people harrassing her on Twitter. I'm asking how you're determining which of us in this thread are 'the mob'?
1. She explicitly didn't apologise for most of the controversies, including the Buck Angel one.
The main people unhappy with Contrapoints in here are enbies, you're not being slick here.
I want to give Contrapoints the benefit of the doubt, but at this point she absolutely does not deserve it. The buck angel thing was far from the first time she's said stuff about trans and/or genderqueer people that's questionable at best. Each time she deleted the tweets where she said truscum shit, sometimes maybe apologized (i honestly don't remember if she did), and later would do the same shit. Now she made a 100 minute long video in which she barely apologizes, says some shit about cancel culture, defends herself and spends a long amount of time defending buck angel.
This video contains the first proper apologies shes ever given for previous controversies so yeah previously she just let all the cis people forget or never find out it ever happened which indeed doesn't inspire confidence in her ability to not fuck up again
Idk if Contra did, but around that time someone made a tweet saying that NB people calling Contra out was "gamergate 2.0" which was liked by Lindsay.
What I dislike is all this philosophical stuff but few are advocating or driving people to get out and vote. Use your platform to get people to polling stations!
