Sorian threw himself into the chest minigame immediately in HvV2, I wouldn't consider him a particularly risk-averse player
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Conspiracy Mafia 2 |OT| Where you can overthink everything and not sound like a crazy person
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Doesn't look like the vote tool picked up my vote, one more time, gotta get posts in this game somehow, right.
Vote: EzekelRAGE
Vote: EzekelRAGE
I like the read for sure. I think I had mentioned that "keep the read to yourself" post earlier as well, but ultimately felt it was a very Zeke thing to say since he usually speaks from his own perspective on how best to play as Town, whether or not that lines up with anyone else's, so it was ultimately NAI to me. But, I do like the rest of your analysis here as well, something felt off to me about Zeke's posts earlier and this puts it into words better than I was able to.
Is it reasonable to believe that you, or anyone, could ever get everyone to go along with this?
This is a horrible plan. I can easily see the whole town in one room, then oops, a deadly neuorotoxin gas has been leaked into the room where everyone is. It's probably in town's best interests to not sit clustered in the same place.
Commenting on general controversies as I go:
nin's "I have something" is pretty towny; gotta agree with Faddy on that, especially if it comes to nothing, which is what I expect.
Arguing over meta reads on day one is boring. It's like the no-kill discussion, except more likely to come from scum, I think, though only a little.
Sparks has 61 posts of fucking nothing and I almost want to vote there just to remove a significant chunk of clutter, but also because he's a loose cannon who can really skew votes. Not sure that's a big danger in a big game, though.
Wasn't that the game where he accidentally admitted to being a poisoner or something? I didn't play in it, but I have a vague memory. I would expect then a small difference between town and scum Sparks might be less hollering for mass claims/role claims but who knows, since he basically outed himself at least once.
Interesting, thank you.
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See, this is why you don't get townread.
Still a page back and need to get back to work but just wanted to say this now before I forget. That is not towny nin, that is just nin. He regularly comes in with some hot fake info at game start and then never follows up with it, that's NAI at all.
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Possibly, but I think the rest of nin seems relatively townie. I don't get scum vibes from his plan, just sorta silly ones. I doubt I'd vote there today as things stand at present.
Will have some more in a bit, playing more catchup at home, too, and a lot has piled up.
I'd be down for it but it seems like some of the others haven't showered in days, do you really want to be stuck in a room with them?
(in all seriousness, I think the plan was doomed to fail given how much support it would need, including getting somepople out of that bathroom. Even if you did I doubt there's a bomb which could wipe out most the players anyway, it'd be a great way to waste all the time Fran ect put into designing it and fun for no one but spec, more likely rooms do nothing again. Conspiracy 3 meanwhile? All about them map mechanics)
It's because you are reading the post wrong. It has nothing to do with sparks. It has to do with faddy/sorian trying to downplay/misrepresent ael's post.
Ael's post is one of the few/only? posts I've read as genuine town play this phase. So yea, conversation about that post will catch my attention.
as far asgiving insight into sparks, I would just holdit close to the chest and see how sparks continues to play, then drop that bomb.
Aeleus' post is explicitly about Sparks tho. Your post trying to highlight that you like the post? Agree with the post? Is giving commentary on what you think of Sparks one way or the other.
It's also weird how you like his post and actually assign an alignment lean to it as town, but then also say that you wouldn't have posted that and would have held onto the info until, later, who knows when, closer to deadline? I don't see how it benefits town to hold it and wait and I also don't get why you're giving Aeleus a town read for something you yourself wouldn't do if you're town.
More caught up now, yes, that's about the level of what nin would come up with (again, just a nin thing so /shrug). Plan isn't great, I highly doubt the rooms matter in a meaningful way and especially this early with this many people it will be impossible to gain much knowledge. The bathroom (probably) works as advertised and past that, maybe some roles or the scum kill have to be within the same room but the data of everyone being in the same room except nin would tell us nothing unless nin was exactly the one to die.
Really? This one?
I feel like an Aeleus of any alignment could recall how Sparks played in previous games they played together?
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*their post.
Come on, I just issued a global warning about paying attention with pronouns before posting.
My fault entirely for not double checking what I wrote. Sorry Aeleus, won't happen again.
Every time I've had time to read the thread I run out of time to post with how much there is to catch up each time. Nothing too noteworthy so far that I've seen.
The usual fluff from the usual posters
I don't think we should worry about room placement for day 1 because all staying in one room could be potentially dangerous. Better to figure that stuff out later.
There is almost certainly roles based on whoever shares a room with that person. Might not be the scum kill but they probably exist.
The usual fluff from the usual posters
I don't think we should worry about room placement for day 1 because all staying in one room could be potentially dangerous. Better to figure that stuff out later.
There is almost certainly roles based on whoever shares a room with that person. Might not be the scum kill but they probably exist.
Rooms got destroyed as the game went on last time. At the end if there is only one room then meh. It's possible, it could also be bullshit like last time, rooms could have new effects everyday, it's not worth the thought yet at all. As someone said above, it would be dumb for someone to be able to kill a whole room so at worst, a few extra people could be exposed to a bad power, ok, sounds like mafia to me.
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Didn't I just give Faddy shit this morning for town reading Aeleus based on that weak logic? Where were you all then?
I'm not sure what you are arguing. You said I commented on the faddy/sorian thing because I wanted to back up a sparks town read? Which wasn't true at all.
I play more close to the chest, if I have some special insight to a player I would wait til day 2-3 to see how they act. But that's me and how I would handle that specific info. That doesn't mean ael was wrong in how they handled it.
Yes, that post. True it's nai. But I like it. You won't change my mind on it.
But you specifically stated that there was a problem with their post. It was not framed in a "If it were me, I would have done this because this is how I play the game," sense.
If this was a your personal style thing, why is this post framed in a way that makes it sound like Aeleus did play this the wrong way. And yet even with this apparent problematic aspect of Aeleus' post, you gave them a townish reading on D1.
You are reading that wrong as well. If I said "the problem " with ael's post. You would have a point. But I said "my only problem" which to me implies my personal take on it. Which I just explained how I would've handled it and why I still town read the post.
*truffleshuffle*
Yeah I thought Aeleus was talking about Sparks reacting to them being scum in HoH.
I thought Aeleus was giving impressions of their own scum play. But that isnt the case. I forgot HoH was that cursed Natiko game with only 2 scum.
So maybe Aeleus has too much to say about Sparks.
Hi all quick post during my lunch break to say that I'm going to endeavor to catch up late tonight when I'm free. Sorry, my Wednesday and Thursday are absolutely swamped.
Mao I'm not sure what your point is with this back and forth. You aren't even arguing your OG point (I just wanted to back toe sparks read) since I pointed out how wrong were in reading it.
I'm not sure I agree with this as it feels a bit off surrounding that disagreement. I've been in games here where scum intentionally plan small disagreements over nothing so that they can seem like they're opposed, and when one of those people is Sorian I think you should be a little extra cautious over putting it as a town v town interaction right off the bat.
Oh, that's fair actually because me and Zeke did that when we were scum together. I still think they're town as of now, but I'll keep this in mind
My point is that you're being inconsistent and injecting a bad read into an argument over Spark's style and Aeleus' post.
Yes. If there is one thing to take away it is that Sparks and Saw are not together.
If Sparks picks up early votes he is unlikely to talk his way out of it. I don't think Sawneeks tries that with a partner because there is every chance people could come out with a scum read on Sparks. I know he used to be quite low activity but that seems to have changed.
I don't like this idea at all, tbh. It just feels like nin's plan is to do something to the room that we wouldn't notice until later under the guise of providing us info on mechanics
Thank you :>
Now that I'm caught up this extends to EzekelRAGE as well but I don't see how Aeleus post above is townie. Saying how you meta read people is NAI.
Can you explain more plz
Also gonna mirror these questions back at both of you if you could answer them.
Not as exciting as I thought it would be. :(
I'm not against a silly plan this early just to have some fun but I doubt you're gonna get others to agree with you here.
I mean, it's not a good plan regardless, but it would be incredibly obvious no matter what if something happened to the room and everyone was in it but nin. Even if he didn't do it, he would get blamed.
I'm sure there's some weird nin reasoning for offering to oh-so-saintly sacrifice himself here but either way, we shouldn't stack everyone up in the same place for about a billion reasons.
7 pages and not a single @. Feels good. Coming in on my own volition has never felt this good.
vote: nin
It's a given that this must be done.
vote: nin
It's a given that this must be done.
Again, it has nothing to do with sparks. Ael could've typed about ANY player and I would've liked the post by ael due to how it was laid out. I also explained my issue with the sorian/faddy thing.
There are no inconsistencies. Only you misreading or not reading my posts at all. At this point we are just creating noise and going in circles. I will not continue this conversation.
Hey Google, show me nin's plan.
You mean to tell me I may not have to vote for Nin?
You mean to tell me I may not have to vote for Nin?
Gun to head, I'd feel Ket is more likely to be town here, but I'd like to see how she develops over the day. I am uncertain about Stu, who I know has uneven d1 performances, but he feels very reserved and I don't love it so far.
I'm about to speak more on Faddy and Sorian so I'll get to that in a few. And I think someone asked me? Someone else? I don't know, maybe I'm making it up? about you so I'll speak to that here, too: I don't trust myself to read Sneeks yet and I don't trust you, Sneeks, to read me either, since we are almost never right about each other - but hmm, have we been opposite sides more often than not? Maybe that's part of it, too.