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Congress Releases Barr's summary of the Mueller Report (SEE STAFF POST)
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Yep. He was never getting impeached. That was always a pipe dream, because the Senste wouldn't have convicted him anyway.
That doesn't change the fact that he committed several campaign finance violations, hired literally the worst people possible, and was exploited by foreign intelligence entities and governments (even if there was no active, affirmative collision).
In other words: this just underscores why he's corrupt, petty, and unfit for office.
Only now people need to continue to be energized for 2020 rather than expect someone else (Mueller) to carry the load for them.
Trump should be impeached for various things. But what can you do when the Senate is actively covering for him?
It's going to be extremely difficult to flip the Senate anytime soon
That's all very true, hence why we need to see the full report to know why Mueller came to the conclusion he did.
That's the best take yet on the problems with Barr's letter.
People need to chill, step back and see things for what they are.
Yep. The likelihood that Mueller was ever going to find a smoking gun to prove a Russia conspiracy, which would be necessary to break the partisan freeze on this topic, was always very small.
Dems did not win in 2018 by running on Russia. They will not win in 2020 running on Russia. It's better that this is resolved well in advance and not mucking things up.
Yeah. One thing people should realize on impeaching and then actually removing a sitting President: it's never happening as long as the US functions with a 2 party system, you're simply never gonna get a party to stab their President in the back.
It's not so much that trump is innocent but that this investigation had not provided substantial proof of a large collusion operation between trump camp and the Kremlin. Do think crimes were committed in some form and that we don't entirely know the full story? Yes. Does this investigation provide any new and substantial evidence of the former accusations? Seems to be the case it doesn't.
Surprise!
Again, thanks america for making the world a shittiest, more racist place with your examples!!
Again, thanks america for making the world a shittiest, more racist place with your examples!!
No, she fucked up by putting it all in the Mueller basket. There's so much to get him on and instead she let the media decide this story. Pelosi taking another fucking L.
When will we stop praising her already? She's constantly damaging to the Dems. Schumer too but at least that's acknowledged.
Yes... The full report needs to come out ASAP, while minds are still fresh on the matter. Barr's summary has already done a ton of damage, which increases by the day as more people read the headlines of no collusion, no obstruction, exoneration, etc. While each day we go without the actual report, the less people will care about its eventual release.
Typical GOP strategy to get ahead of the facts and take advantage of short attention spans.
If the those running will shut up about Russia and Trump and talk about the real issues. If they all go after Trump, they are continuing the same cycle that will get the Democratic Party nowhere.
Pelosi doesn't want to start an impeachment process that she knows will end in failure, she never did. Impeachment was never happening.
I think most people wanted at least Jr or Kushner indicted. Especially that cunt Jr. Hopefully NY can get him.
"She let the media"
As if CNN/NBC and co. weren't gushing to discuss Russia/Trump for the ratings. These networks (and their people) don't give a flying fuck about any of this, all they care about is money, ratings and fame. Ohh and a book deal or an exclusive here and there doesn't hurt either.
A metric fuckton of closeted Trump supporters are coming out on this forum right now.
It worked for the Republicans in the 90s. They got 8 years of Bush.
Nah, I still maintain that is the wrong move. By doing that she chained all impeachment talk to Mueller's specific and narrow focus. There's so much other shit Trump has done that is impeachable and worthy of constant 24/7 attacks, investigations, and daily subpoenas.
But the way she phrased it - Mueller was it. This was all it. That is the epitome of gaslighting.
Tell me, how has she put all the baskets in the Mueller and what could she have done instead? I'm fucking curious.
I... don't think Pelosi did this at all
Has she even really mentioned or focused on the Mueller report in 2019, as opposed to the own investigation the House is doing (which directly relates more to tax returns/campaign finance issues/etc as opposed to collusion?)
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Only because Gore ran away from Clinton as fast as he possibly could.
I know a lot of people got emotionally attached to the Mueller report and that was the largest / most popular ongoing story but wasn't the most damning thing for Trump the campaign finance violations (payoffs) that were revealed from the Cohen testimony? The next big story will be federal lawyers in New York coming after him for that. As well as the lawsuit (I believe) in regard to the Trump Foundation.
Media / Dems should shift to that instead of focusing on Russia shouldn't they? If they stick with Russia it just lets Trump yell fake news and no collusion right up to the next election.
Media / Dems should shift to that instead of focusing on Russia shouldn't they? If they stick with Russia it just lets Trump yell fake news and no collusion right up to the next election.
You know how Trump won right? People keep attacking him and bringing up the dumb shit he does and says.
You go after him for policy, platform or actual politics and you destroy him.
You go after him for policy, platform or actual politics and you destroy him.
You think Barr's assessment is a complete 180 of what the report actually says?
I vote Blue, but this forum
They should shift to real issues. I don't think anybody but Biden can beat Trump, though I don't think he'll be able to. Just run on the progressive issues.
They should shift to real issues. I don't think anybody but Biden can beat Trump, though I don't think he'll be able to. Just run on the progressive issues.
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For everyone panicking about 2020, there's still hope.
A good strategy for winning in 2020
1. TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES ("It's the economy, stupid").
2. Select a progressive candidate and promote issues like universal healthcare and the Green New Deal.
3. Don't depend on the media to boost your message, they only work for themselves and their ratings (remember the empty Trump podium?).
4. Embrace Obama with regards to the rhetoric of "hope."
5. Don't make it just about being anti-Trump. Have a vision for an ideal progressive society.
A good strategy for winning in 2020
1. TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES ("It's the economy, stupid").
2. Select a progressive candidate and promote issues like universal healthcare and the Green New Deal.
3. Don't depend on the media to boost your message, they only work for themselves and their ratings (remember the empty Trump podium?).
4. Embrace Obama with regards to the rhetoric of "hope."
5. Don't make it just about being anti-Trump. Have a vision for an ideal progressive society.
Trump literally won because Comey dropped a pointless letter to Congress days before the election which gave Trump a 100K voter victory in a combined three swing states.
The 2016 election was a lesson in that President elections are very much similar to a shootout between two all star QB's.
The last one to get the ball is likely to win, and in this case Trump got the last possession in that letter. If Pussy-Tape dropped two days before the election it would have been over by 10PM.
Feels like Election Night 2016 again.
Waiting for someone to jump in at the last minute and drop a good news bomb on me to save the day. And it never happening.
On a related note, the five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
We're in denial. Again.
I already see forms of anger, bargaining and depression (me right now) popping up here and there.
It's too early for acceptance.
The nightmare continues.
Waiting for someone to jump in at the last minute and drop a good news bomb on me to save the day. And it never happening.
On a related note, the five stages of grief are denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.
We're in denial. Again.
I already see forms of anger, bargaining and depression (me right now) popping up here and there.
It's too early for acceptance.
The nightmare continues.
100% accurate... It's why I respected the people who tried to stay neutral through this process, and didn't proclaim Trump dead in the water every single fucking day (see: Maddow), which will invariably lead to more pain when the result doesn't come as we thought it would.
The man isn't unbeatable by any means, but this is definitely going to give him a bump. I wonder how independents are going view him now.
There's endless amounts of shit to get him on. But no, doing nothing and giving the right what they want! That's the centrist fucking way. Can't wait for the day Pelosi and Schumer are fucking out of politics
Literally letting the media define this and not going after him is allowing the right to shape the minds of "moderates" who aren't going to bother to think about it beyond :" well, he's innocent now and I guess the economy is doing well for now.."
Letting this happen without an actual statement of substance is fucking damning.
They already were.
Jesus christ shut up.
Stop lying, stop trying to put this narrative forward that Democrats only focused on Russia. 2018 wave election happened because candidates ran local races and focused on taxes and healthcare.
It's fucking gross the mods have let people like you run rampant on this site and poison political discourse.
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No it wouldn't of. Democrats hated him for it. The average person shrugged their shoulders, his fans laughed and said right on.
You don't bring down Trump by showing how much or a piece of shit he is, people clearly don't care. You bring him down by exposing how stupid he is and how terrible of a politician he is.
This.
No, people were pissed because she fucked over Bernie.
What serious Democratic candidate has made a big deal out of Trump/Russia?
Which is what Clinton did in all three debates.
The media memory is about as long as a toddler. People forget as soon as the media moves to a new topic. Look at the poles, if the letter didn't drop Clinton would have won. If you reverse Pussy-Gate and Comey Letter in the timeline, you''ll almost certainly get a Clinton victory.