*Spoilers in review* I preordered this book and really looked forward to it, but ultimately it was very disappointing. The first half of the novel, which mirrors Hillary Rodham Clinton's actual life is fun to read- it was enjoyable to see her feelings about parts of her life imagined, and I enjoyed it for the same reason I like shows like The Crown. It's always interesting to imagine how people who have lead notable lives feel about it.
The second half of the novel is a giant mess. In rewriting Clinton's history, Sittenfield has her make decisions completely at odds with who she is as a person. Erasing Carol Moseley Braun? Having Bill Clinton run against her for president and lead crowds in misogynistic chants forcing her to seek help from... Donald Trump?
It's so poorly thought through and doesn't make logical sense when you consider how misogyny, racism, and other forms of oppression actually work. I put the book down angry that I'd wasted my time and my money on a book that missed the entire point of Clinton's legacy of building coalitions of people with a goal of making things better, of making the impossible possible.
This is going to be quite something, isn't it.He said, "Hillary, I really enjoy discussing theology with you. I also enjoy doing lots of other things with you," and then he plunged inside me.
That sounds actually offensively badI found this in an Amazon Review. Apparently it falls apart in the second half.
Oh man, that second half lol.I found this in an Amazon Review. Apparently it falls apart in the second half.
If Trump wasn't elected and Hillary was, he would either have a prime time TV show or entire news network made up of alt-right people screaming every single day about the election and how bad it is in the world.You know, I wonder how much this coronavirus thing would be different given that you got a large mix of folks that
a) don't believe it no matter what
b) don't believe it because it's a liberal conspiracy
c) wouldn't follow mask orders from a woman
d) don't care
I am certain it would be better, but not sure how much. It just seems that America was set up to suck at global pandemics given how much states have control and how dumb we are
the venn diagram between this show watchers and hamilton fans has been confirmed to be a perfect circle
I told myself I'd never say this phrase, but this post is "money".the venn diagram between this show watchers and hamilton fans has been confirmed to be a perfect circle
Yeah, I'd watch the hell outta this
am I missing something here? seems like hulu is beginning development on an alternate history series about hillary clinton ("Hulu begins developing Hilary Clinton alt history series") and that does indeed confirm that we are living in the corniest hell ("Confirming we truly live in the corniest hell")
am I missing something here? seems like hulu is beginning development on an alternate history series about hillary clinton ("Hulu begins developing Hilary Clinton alt history series") and that does indeed confirm that we are living in the corniest hell ("Confirming we truly live in the corniest hell")
Well, the thread title infers a hell of a lot, especially if you're unaware of the book that the series is based on. Crappy thread title going for glib laughs rather than actual imparting of information.
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yes they're going to use the technology from The Irishman
dont be misleadingI don't know, sounds like hulu is beginning development on an alternate history hillary clinton series
I don't know, sounds like hulu is beginning development on an alternate history hillary clinton series
I don't know, sounds like hulu is beginning development on an alternate history hillary clinton series
But that would require more than "and then things didn't go to hell"
But the first thought when someone says that is not "Young Hillary doesn't marry Bill. What happens?"
I mean, I've got the book on my Amazon wishlist, and even I didn't know the title was referencing the book. (Good thing I read the embedded link.)
that's certainly what I took from the title, which states that hulu is beginning to develop a hillary clinton alt-history series
I've taken a lot of critical reading classes, though, so I'm very good at getting information out of what are assuredly very complex sentences
Yeah exactly
There could very well be an interesting story there, but I question why it needs to be delivered as essentially irl fan fiction instead of an original character blatantly inspired by Hillary.
Mythologizing public figures like that as if they're fictional characters rather than real people makes me a little uncomfortable.
It sounds like we agree that mythologizing political figures is a problem. I don't think it's a problem that's solved by doing it the other way.Here's the thing: people mythologize "Shillary Killton" all the time.
A fundamental difference here is that this is mythologizing that's positively framed.
what if Bernie never bought his third house?Who knew all those hours back in 2017 writing my Bernie fan fiction might finally pay off. BRB, boutta pitch to Netflix
"Your outsides are attractive all by themselves. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this during the women's movement, but you have great tits. And your little waist, and your nice soft bum, and your delicious honey pot..."
I joined Bill in bed, and when I was lying on my back naked and he was lying on top of me naked, he looked at me and smiled. He said, "Hillary, I really enjoy discussing theology with you. I also enjoy doing lots of other things with you," and then he plunged inside me.
It sounds like we agree that mythologizing political figures is a problem. I don't think it's a problem that's solved by doing it the other way.
what if Bernie never bought his third house?
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You know, I wonder how much this coronavirus thing would be different given that you got a large mix of folks that
a) don't believe it no matter what
b) don't believe it because it's a liberal conspiracy
c) wouldn't follow mask orders from a woman
d) don't care
I am certain it would be better, but not sure how much. It just seems that America was set up to suck at global pandemics given how much states have control and how dumb we are
Who knew all those hours back in 2017 writing my Bernie fan fiction might finally pay off. BRB, boutta pitch to Netflix
the venn diagram between this show watchers and hamilton fans has been confirmed to be a perfect circle
Yeah so fascinating to imagine a world where Hilary Clinton wasn't an awful human being who made her own choices to tie herself to Bill Clinton and then go on to do anything in the name of becoming president rather than losing to one of the most hated people of all time. This woman literally had inmates working as servants for her. This is, in every sense of the words, corny as hell (and thats the nice way of putting it).Why not?
People can think what they want about Hillary now, but it's hard to deny that she's a fascinating study.
She was a politically driven young woman who held radical feminist views (for the era) and had the AOC-like ability to drive the right absolutely bonkers by merely breathing.
Remember, we're talking about this person:
What her life would have been had she not tied her fortunes to Bill Clinton could make for a good story. And last I checked the book this is based on was well received.