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Raza

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Nov 7, 2017
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How hard would it be to code in an "ok, you are playing with friends on your friends list, you are excluded from online ranking leaderboards for that session?"

Doesn't seem too hard, no?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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All of Nintendo top brass were against it during the GC era. It's one of those things that Iwata resisted until they were completely behind the competition, famously saying that customers didn't want it, and that industry interest was falling off. Probably just comes down to Nintendo being a very financially conservative company and wanting to so things as cheaply as they can.

I was joking 😂

Japanese developers took a absurdly long time to embrace the Internet on console games and even today many of them do it weirdly e.g. Cspcom and monster hunter world
 

BlueManifest

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can you play online while doing local co op from 1 switch or do you have to download the levels from online then play them offline co op?
 

sleepnaught

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Oct 26, 2017
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Why would anyone buy their garbage ass online service when they clearly don't give a shit about their customer's experience? Talk about the most bare minimum effort put forth by Nintendo. They seriously just don't give a damn.
 

Peleo

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Nov 2, 2017
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I hope Nintendo receives enough backlash they will actually change it.

Throughout the recent years, Nintendo has made online decisions which range from questionable (Splatoon stage-rotation) to egregious (Voice-Chat through mobile App).

I would definitely put this absence of friend lobbies in Mario Maker in the egregious category.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why would anyone buy their garbage ass online service when they clearly don't give a shit about their customer's experience? Talk about the most bare minimum effort put forth by Nintendo. They seriously just don't give a damn.

Because you have to in order to share levels and play levels made by other people.

It sucks but it's not really a mystery why people will be paying for NSO.
 

Altera

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Nov 1, 2017
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Why does Nintendo keep doing things like this?

This is a good enough reason for me to skip the game.
 

Cordy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just in time for the Giantbombcast to speak on it after all of their praising.

Nintendo is dumb as hell.
 

RadioJoNES

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Lol charging me online and then omitting online features people mastered in 2002.
 

Fubar

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Oct 25, 2017
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This decision has to lose more customers than it gains, right? Who wants something like this?
 

Absent Breeze

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope Nintendo receives enough backlash they will actually change it.

Throughout the recent years, Nintendo has made online decisions which range from questionable (Splatoon stage-rotation) to egregious (Voice-Chat through mobile App).

I would definitely put this absence of friend lobbies in Mario Maker in the egregious category.

Yea me too, though I am always a bit lost on where the most relevant place to send my complaints would even be. Complaining about Nintendo products always feels a bit like shouting into a void considering how often Nintendo has already had lots complaints when it comes to their online features and they still have yet to really address many of them.
 

Geg

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Oct 25, 2017
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Welp. I really, really wanted to believe this was just the result of some horrible miscommunication.

I can't believe Nintendo *actually* thinks people care more about mario maker online leaderboards than the ability to play with friends
 

Egida

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm sure they'll patch it when the new Super Nintendo Online deluxe launches next September.
 

Maple

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's kind of funny actually. You can't even send invites to people on your friend's list anyway. Why would a game support playing online with friends when the network itself doesn't even allow you to invite your friends to the game to begin with?

It's just jaw dropping when considering just how ancient Nintendo's online infrastructure is.
 

BordyDogue

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Champion

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Oct 28, 2017
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Nintendo continuously downplays and disappoints with the online multiplayer experience on their platform yet ppl act suprised everytime a major 1st party title is released and does this nonsense. So weird.
 

Rosebud

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Apr 16, 2018
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"Play with your friends, but only if you are in the same room" is the Nintendo standard.
 

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That's lame. But on the other hand I'm glad local multiplayer is confirmed 4 players.
 

HardRojo

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It's kind of funny actually. You can't even send invites to people on your friend's list anyway. Why would a game support playing online with friends when the network itself doesn't even allow you to invite your friends to the game to begin with?

It's just jaw dropping when considering just how ancient Nintendo's online infrastructure is.
It's one of my biggest gripes since the Switch was first announced. No basic online functionality within the console itself in 2017 and now 2019 is terrible baffling. For Smash I have to use external methods to play with friends, whereas on PSN I'd send a quick message and that'd be it (because not all the people I play with are people I have on social networks or Discord), hell I can send an invite directly and wait to see if they come or not. On Switch though? Nope, can't.
It's stupid but it's also fixable on their end and the solution should be relatively easy, assuming they listen to the fanbase.
The downplaying begins. It's a very stupid decision, as are the things I explained above. It being fixable with a hypothetical post-release patch doesn't mean we shouldn't give Nintendo shit for this.
 
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