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leng jai

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Does this forum ever get bored of talking about this game? Every thread on it has thousands of posts
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
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Does this forum ever get bored of talking about this game? Every thread on it has thousands of posts

Most of these threads are kind of circular. Lots of arguments about the harassment Game Freak has received, sarcastic usage of positive hashtags, etc. All you have to do is read a few pages to get the gist of it all.
 

Mzril

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Oct 26, 2017
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PKHex was probably THE reason why they decided to remove GTS.

You could ask a bot to create a pokemon for you, deposit anything with a set nick name on GTS and the bot would trade find the Pokemon and trade you the other one.

Made creating competitive mons a breeze
 

King Alamat

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Most of these threads are kind of circular. Lots of arguments about the harassment Game Freak has received, sarcastic usage of positive hashtags, etc. All you have to do is read a few pages to get the gist of it all.
Not to mention all the posts equating criticism to targeted harassment campaigns, prostrations to the owners of one of the highest-earning entertainment franchises and the like. That gets tiring as well.
 

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PKHex was probably THE reason why they decided to remove GTS.

You could ask a bot to create a pokemon for you, deposit anything with a set nick name on GTS and the bot would trade find the Pokemon and trade you the other one.

Made creating competitive mons a breeze
Instead people will still hack but with switch hacking lmfao
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
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PKHex was probably THE reason why they decided to remove GTS.

You could ask a bot to create a pokemon for you, deposit anything with a set nick name on GTS and the bot would trade find the Pokemon and trade you the other one.

Made creating competitive mons a breeze

PKHex is a better storage/transfer solution than Pokemon Bank or Home, so I wouldn't be surprised. But PKHex will be working in Gen 8 in a matter of days.
 

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But they did Let's Go first and it somehow looks much better....

Eh, at the same time it's also pretty basic geometrically. Everything's flat, the camera's at fixed angles. It's fundamentally just a slightly enhanced version of the same techniques for rendering they've been using from Gen IV. I think it looks OK but I'm not surprised that as soon as they started moving away from that they wound up having trouble. Like back when it came out, people were complaining about how basic it looked.
 

Gold Arsene

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Did I call out a specific person or a specific behavior? I didnt say John Smith on JohnSmith.com is scum for datamining/leaking...
People that do datamines, leaks etc; are scum imo
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Fj0823

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Here's hoping for a day 1 patch

Edit: DISREGARD. This specific streamer was messing with the game.
 
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Deleted member 3010

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Why even have release dates with that argument?
Where are you going with this?

Is this some kind of spoiler outrage where the cut features should've been a surprise for the reviewers to warn us on at the very last minute?

I can't wrap my head around what point you're trying to convey here. The more in advance these issue get brought out, the better the people will be informed, no?
 

Anidav

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Oct 25, 2017
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More issues are appearing. Now we are looking at soft-locks

And as unacceptable as that looks, the music is fucking fire at least, right? );

The cut content is just a symptom. This game is simply unfinished

Oh please. Pokemon games have had game crashing bugs before. Pointing to every small insignificant thing and screaming unfinished isn't helping anyone.

Honestly do people forget about all the other glitches from prior gens?
 

DevilMayGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh please. Pokemon games have had game crashing bugs before. Pointing to every small insignificant thing and screaming unfinished isn't helping anyone.

Honestly do people forget about all the other glitches from prior gens?
It's the sum of a ton of those small things and some big things that make the game seem unfinished/half baked. Adding tinder to the fire seems more constructive than telling people to ignore technical issues with a game that costs $60

I guess it'd be better if people knew less about the product's shortcomings before they buy it. Wouldn't want them to get spoiled
 

Fj0823

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Oh please. Pokemon games have had game crashing bugs before. Pointing to every small insignificant thing and screaming unfinished isn't helping anyone.

Honestly do people forget about all the other glitches from prior gens?

This. Is. An. AAA. Console. Game.

Of the biggest media franchise in the world.

This is not acceptable for any other developer and it's not acceptable for GF.
 

Hu3

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Oct 25, 2017
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So you're saying Gamefreak intended on datamining prior to releaae??

Is this for real ?, like god damn I must be going crazy or some shit living in the matrix or something.

people putting faceles corporation before their well-being as a consumer. Putting a company before Your own pocket.
They don't care about you they care about your money, they are not doing you any Favor, they are selling you a service and if the service is not up to the task you get called out as a company because your product is maligned is not up to standards and I am sure as hell as a well informed consumer research a product before I put my hard earned money into it.

you have to be trolling.
 
Jun 17, 2018
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Calling your shit is not condescension. You were toxic(but apparently not as toxic as thanking gamefreak lmao) and now you're just digging your heels in with bad justification that are just "it's not my fault you don't understand me".
You sure are making some acidic accusations. 1st, what does thanking Gamefreak have to do with anything?Sounds like you're angry about something else that has nothing to do with me.

Exactly what "shit" am I being called out for?? Going back to my original argument, I still hold that I feel for the game developers who spent years of their lives only for it to be spoiled. No one is entitled to have leaks prior to the game's release. If I think leakers are scum, that's my opionion. Don't like it? Ummm I'm sure you have other things you could be doing rather than challege my opinion that wont change.
 

Omnistalgic

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I can't tell if you're being facetious but uh... yeah Pokemon is a 10+ million seller franchise and people have been fans of the games for over 20 years lol. There's quite a bit to them and some people think that when this franchise is at it's best it stands up there with some of the best JRPGs.
Cool...this is a good jumping in point? I love RPG's personally.
 

Omnistalgic

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Being light hearted doesn't mean people don't want their money's worth. Generally people should be concerned when something they are about to buy might not be very good. I welcome information that helps me save money. Pokemon is a business at the end of the day not some goodwill venture. They want money and lots of it. Nothing really light hearted about that.

I'm sure you and you daughter will have fun. Playing with others makes things more fun in general. The people upset I think are long time fans that finally got a console release and based on the streams I've seen it looks like shit. It feels very much like a Fallout 76 scenario of a passionate fan base being let down.
Oh wow, Tks for the post, I get it now...I'm looking forward to jumping in for my first RPG pokemon but would love if it held up to its previous entries.
 

Akainu

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Horohorohoro

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You sure are making some acidic accusations. 1st, what does thanking Gamefreak have to do with anything?Sounds like you're angry about something else that has nothing to do with me.

Exactly what "shit" am I being called out for?? Going back to my original argument, I still hold that I feel for the game developers who spent years of their lives only for it to be spoiled. No one is entitled to have leaks prior to the game's release. If I think leakers are scum, that's my opionion. Don't like it? Ummm I'm sure you have other things you could be doing rather than challege my opinion that wont change.
People are specifically calling you out for calling dataminers and leakers "scum."
...so that really is the double kick animation?
Yep, lol.
 

DevilMayGuy

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Oh wow, Tks for the post, I get it now...I'm looking forward to jumping in for my first RPG pokemon but would love if it held up to its previous entries.
It probably makes the perfect jumping in point, because when you beat this one you can go back to the previous entries and take advantage of the greater complexity in the endgame and richer feature set/meta/pokedex. In a way, they'll play like evolved sequels to this entry in everything but graphics.
 

Holundrian

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You sure are making some acidic accusations. 1st, what does thanking Gamefreak have to do with anything?Sounds like you're angry about something else that has nothing to do with me.

Exactly what "shit" am I being called out for?? Going back to my original argument, I still hold that I feel for the game developers who spent years of their lives only for it to be spoiled. No one is entitled to have leaks prior to the game's release. If I think leakers are scum, that's my opionion. Don't like it? Ummm I'm sure you have other things you could be doing rather than challege my opinion that wont change.
Thanks gamefreak is a dig at the absolutely stupid mod decision that deems criticizing a company with a snarky thank you as a worse offense vs calling all dataminers scum in a long line of similar double standard judgments. The rest of your post is absolutely irrelevant cause it does not change that you were toxic.
 

Complicated

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Oct 29, 2017
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More issues are appearing. Now we are looking at soft-locks

And as unacceptable as that looks, the music is fucking fire at least, right? );


The cut content is just a symptom. This game is simply unfinished

Here's hoping for a day 1 patch

I feel like remaking all the pokemon in the South Park style would be preferable to how these models look with almost no animation to speak of. It just looks busted.
 
Jun 17, 2018
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Is this for real ?, like god damn I must be going crazy or some shit living in the matrix or something.

people putting faceles corporation before their well-being as a consumer. Putting a company before Your own pocket.
They don't care about you they care about your money, they are not doing you any Favor, they are selling you a service and if the service is not up to the task you get called out as a company because your product is maligned is not up to standards and I am sure as hell as a well informed consumer research a product before I put my hard earned money into it.

you have to be trolling.
Tell that to the individual putting in 16 hour days for years on end. People often think of big corporations but ignore the individuals within
 

n00bs7ay3r

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You sure are making some acidic accusations. 1st, what does thanking Gamefreak have to do with anything?Sounds like you're angry about something else that has nothing to do with me.

Exactly what "shit" am I being called out for?? Going back to my original argument, I still hold that I feel for the game developers who spent years of their lives only for it to be spoiled. No one is entitled to have leaks prior to the game's release. If I think leakers are scum, that's my opionion. Don't like it? Ummm I'm sure you have other things you could be doing rather than challege my opinion that wont change.

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This is a troll right??? I am literally baffled by the fact that this can be a real person.
 

MatrixMan.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
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More issues are appearing. Now we are looking at soft-locks

And as unacceptable as that looks, the music is fucking fire at least, right? );


The cut content is just a symptom. This game is simply unfinished

Here's hoping for a day 1 patch

This is what bothers me about the reduced Dex. They said because of animations, but these moves are barely animated.
 

Eumi

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Nov 3, 2017
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You sure are making some acidic accusations. 1st, what does thanking Gamefreak have to do with anything?Sounds like you're angry about something else that has nothing to do with me.

Exactly what "shit" am I being called out for?? Going back to my original argument, I still hold that I feel for the game developers who spent years of their lives only for it to be spoiled. No one is entitled to have leaks prior to the game's release. If I think leakers are scum, that's my opionion. Don't like it? Ummm I'm sure you have other things you could be doing rather than challege my opinion that wont change.
This thread continues to deliver.

We've not just hit that perfect toxicity dolled up as a good thing that Era posters are getting very good at these days, but now we're seeing what seems to be irritation at the very idea that anyone takes issue with your god given right to call people scum.

Is it just Pokemon that does it? Or is something else about this thread bringing out the crazy in people?
 

MoonlitBow

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh please. Pokemon games have had game crashing bugs before. Pointing to every small insignificant thing and screaming unfinished isn't helping anyone.

Honestly do people forget about all the other glitches from prior gens?
I remember jumping between some rocks in Final Fantasy 15 causing me to get stuck in a floating state, which resulted in a soft lock because the game disallowed fast travel of any kind while being considered in mid-air, forcing me to restart from an earlier save and lose progress. I did not think "oh earlier games in the series were very buggy, therefore I should find this an acceptable part of the game".

Similarly, I don't think it's good that a soft lock can be triggered by defeating a Pokemon with a very basic attack that many players are likely to use.
 

Dog of Bork

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks gamefreak is a dig at the absolutely stupid mod decision that deems criticizing a company with a snarky thank you as a worse offense vs calling all dataminers scum in a long line of similar double standard judgments. The rest of your post is absolutely irrelevant cause it does not change that you were toxic.
People who improve consumer knowledge prior to game releases are scum = good, ok, perfectly fine comment

Fuck [developer] = also great content!

Snarky use of a hashtag = over the line. You sick fucks
 

Fj0823

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I feel like remaking all the pokemon in the South Park style would be preferable to how these models look with almost no animation to speak of. It just looks busted.

I would be 100% fine with those animations if we had the 900+ pokes...

But they were cut, moves were cut, and now we find GTS was cut too in the name of "high quality animations"

That are nowhere to be seen in this sea of pop in and bugs
 
Jan 10, 2018
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This reads literally like the dumbest double standard ever.
Either Konami and Gamefreak(also include Bioware, EA, Bethesda, etc in this) are entities so entwined with their employees that saying anything reflects back to the devs and such should be BOTH treated like people or they're entities that are companies that make a shit ton of money and should not be immune to criticism.

This is frankly ridiculous that this is actually equated with actual harassment while also not acknowledging the double standard at play here.
Companies are not people fullstop. Criticizing a company is not harassing devs FULLSTOP.


I find your unwarranted hate not that funny it's pretty toxic to be honest.

FuckKonami was in response to a management misstreating their workers.

Your use of ThankYouGameFreak is not that.

If you are not able to comprehend the slight difference, you might be as smart as me.
 

Swift_Gamer

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Dec 14, 2018
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Does this forum ever get bored of talking about this game? Every thread on it has thousands of posts
The most popular franchise in the world having a game that looks and feels worse than some small indie studio is totally worth talking.
I mean, it's mandatory to be honest. The franchise and the fans deserve better and the only we are getting it is talking and complaining about it.