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A_Ageli

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Oct 24, 2019
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It is abundantly clear what is going on. The dex is being diluted between games to firstly insensitive the purchase of future games where only certain mon will be available (It's unclear if this will just be DPP remakes, perhaps could even see spin-offs going into this mix) all to service the cynical Pokemon Home paid app, which will undoubtedly have some form of microtransaction element to it, if not at launch, then in the future.

This is the way modern gaming is going. That doesn't mean people can't criticise the cynical nature of it. I would be a bit comfortable if the games themselves looked like they were making substantive progress but they simply are. Graphically poor, features removed that were in games from 10 years ago. The series is not making any strides forward, let alone great strides. There's very obvious elements where the core series can be improved but it always appears to be one step forward and two steps back. This was further compounded by discovery of certain mainstay key moves being removed from the game.

It's not just about 'Dexit'. It's everything else as well. Any disappointment with what is going on is perfectly legitimate, in my eyes.
 

Serif

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,789
It seems to me the most obvious conclusion is that they changed what its called.

No, I don't think that's the most obvious conclusion considering the amount of hours people have put into the game and haven't seen anything related to it.
The more obvious conclusions are 1) Day 1 patch to enable network features or 2) It's in Home.
 

cainhxrst

Member
Nov 10, 2018
1,380
yup. It's a fair thing to criticize the removal of the GTS (and this should very much be criticized) but trivializing and mocking a hashtag used by fans to express genuine love for the series is silly and this thread will be taken less seriously than it should because of it. Nice.
 

Dark Cloud

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
61,087
Gamefreak is flat out releasing an unfinished game people.



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The benefit of the doubt phase should be over. They should be criticized as harshly as Bethesda or EA for this.

Oof
 

Acidote

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Oct 26, 2017
4,965
I just hope we're able to trade Pokemon somehow without having to pay for Nintendo Online, Pokemon bank or anything of the sort. Even if it's just local /near trading.
 

Mik317

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Oct 25, 2017
8,775
Legtimate question:

Will anything motivate GameFreak to do better if Pokemon Sword/Shield sell bonkers by virtue of being on the Switch?
despite common belief they do hear complaints.

each game has fixed issues from previous ones. hell this whole release cycle was in response to people complaining about them showing too much.

It might be glacial at times and come w/ new issues but they do listen.

i don't think anyone from GF enjoy being told their are shit over and over again either lol. I am sure they hear loud and clear.
 

Deleted member 60992

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Oct 31, 2019
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Seems like the game has leaked so I'd assume we'll hear a lot more over the next few days. I really hope Nintendo takes this criticism to heart and the game we get in two years' time is radically different.

The games themselves is all Game Freak. Nintendo publishes them and holds some of the right but what's in the games and how they are develope is all Game Freak.
 

Deleted member 33319

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Nov 15, 2017
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Hot take: I like Pokémon being harder to acquire. It gives them a value.
This is what I like about Pokémon Go.
 

Jessie

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Oct 27, 2017
9,921
Diamond and Pearl remakes won't have half the features introduced or reintroduced in gen 4.

Underground? Nope. GTS? Nope. Battle Frontier? Nope. 493 Pokémon in the national dex? Nope. In-game events for mythical Pokémon? I hope you like Pokémon Pass and GameStop.
 
Jan 9, 2018
959
Thankfully the title was changed, using that hashtag in that way is incredibly disgusting. Hope the posters on Page 1 who responded with nothing but the hashtag understand what they just did and never try that sort of thing again.
 

Faiyaz

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Nov 30, 2017
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Bangladesh
I blame EVERYTHING on the yearly release schedule. I sincerely hope they don't release a game next year. We're not in the 240p handheld era anymore.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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100% This.

Personally never liked the GTS always impossible to search and find Pokemon I wanted due to everyone wanting legendaries or level 100s and stuff like that. I do hope there is another feature that offers a way for players to acquire all of the Pokemon without having to directly trade or rely on RNG but at this point it feels like people are just digging for literally anything negative about the game to blow up about.

It's getting really sick and tiring to see posts like this, where you just mention that you think people are being negative just for the sake of being negative. And yet, the irony is that you're part of the problem in that you're handwaving criticism away without actually understanding why people are criticizing the removal in the first place.

Does the GTS have its fair share of problems? OF COURSE. The point is that when you have a feature with problems, you do your best to fix it. Removing it is not fixing the problem, if anything, it's rewinding the clocks back to when you needed to find someone to trade as opposed to taking advantage of the internet to connect and trade. I know for a fact that I wouldn't be able to complete the Pokedex in Gen V and VI without the use of the GTS.

There are many things that could have been done with the GTS to provide a better experience, instead of removing it.
 

Deleted member 1839

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know, right? I mean how dare they take umbrage at developer removing essential free features and replacing them with inferior paygated ones. Don't they know that their job is to blindly consume?

That definitely is an issue as well as the way the OP use the hashtag. Plus you have this bottom feeder snark from you too.

Go take a shower with some soap and try not spread your shit around.
 

QisTopTier

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Oct 25, 2017
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Pokemon threads are quickly growing in toxicity and hostility
Just drink the kool-aid don't be critical of a series you have been a fan of for over half your life.

No fuck that, if this is true this is a really fucked up feature to have removed, lots of people completed their pokedex this way.
 

Odeko

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Mar 22, 2018
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Thankfully the title was changed, using that hashtag in that way is incredibly disgusting. Hope the posters on Page 1 who responded with nothing but the hashtag understand what they just did and never try that sort of thing again.
It's a billion dollar company that owns a third of the largest media franchise in human history. I think they can handle a little snark on message boards for moving series staples to their paid subscription service.
 

Ultima_5

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Oct 25, 2017
7,672
I️ never thought a franchise that's been such a major part of my life for so long would end up like this. Fuck this game

also anyone defending this arecompletely in the wrong
 

Calvinien

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Jul 13, 2019
2,970
you're proving their point...

Amazingly, I don't particularily care about their, or your opinion. If you are so slavishly devoted to a company that you are hostile to people not liking their product (or rather, liking the product and not liking a vast and significant downturn in quality.)then your opinion isn't worth anything.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,086
Personally never liked the GTS always impossible to search and find Pokemon I wanted due to everyone wanting legendaries or level 100s and stuff like that. I do hope there is another feature that offers a way for players to acquire all of the Pokemon without having to directly trade or rely on RNG but at this point it feels like people are just digging for literally anything negative about the game to blow up about.
Hot take: I like Pokémon being harder to acquire. It gives them a value.
This is what I like about Pokémon Go.
Literally anything will be defended by people, it's insane.
 

diakyu

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Dec 15, 2018
17,525
Hot take: I like Pokémon being harder to acquire. It gives them a value.
This is what I like about Pokémon Go.
Cool, I don't. A feature I relied on for ten years is gone now. Pokemon can be as rare as they want in game, but when a pokemon literally does not exist in the wild for my game and i have to trade I need the GTS.
 

OrigamiPirate

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Oct 31, 2017
582
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I know this is a feature that will be missed, and rightly so. But as an aside... were there ever legit Pokies on there? I honestly feel like every time I used GTS I ended up with stats that made no sense, lol
 

BassForever

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Oct 25, 2017
29,921
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Agreed. Being toxic about the shortcomings of Sword/Shield isn't gonna motivate Game Freak to do better. If anything, it only makes us look bad & will push Game Freak to dismiss our otherwise-legitimate concerns.

We can have our complaints, lord knows I have mine. But at least voice them in a civil manner

People criticizing the game get called toxic no matter what they say or how they frame their complaints. Coopting the hashtag is a very civil and effective way of voicing their frustration with gamefreak, but it's labeled "toxic" by some of yall.
 

Deleted member 35077

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Dec 1, 2017
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Pokemon threads are quickly growing in toxicity and hostility
It happens when repeatedly people tell you to shut the fuck up about complaining about Let's Go and wait for the supposed Core game for dedicated players to come out next year. Now here, and it is the complete opposite in many fronts, so years of anger are finally being release.
 

Mary Celeste

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Oct 25, 2017
12,176
Way to shit all over a hashtag that was used to comfort Game Freak employees after all the harrasment they've been through. Great work.

edit: y'all are fucking embarrassing holy shit
absolutely. as someone who's been looking forward to the game and wanting to interact with the pokemon community for the first time in over a decade, all I've learned from the leadup to this game is that the pokemon fan community seems like toxic trash.
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
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People criticizing the game get called toxic no matter what they say or how they frame their complaints. Coopting the hashtag is a very civil and effective way of voicing their frustration with gamefreak, but it's labeled "toxic" by some of yall.
You don't understand. Sarcasm is bad when aimed at something I like.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Oct 25, 2017
44,652
Amazingly, I don't particularily care about their, or your opinion. If you are so slavishly devoted to a company that you are hostile to people not liking their product (or rather, liking the product and not liking a vast and significant downturn in quality.)then your opinion isn't worth anything.

On the contrary, losing one of the better online functions is not good. That doesn't mean you're not blatantly making everyone who actually gives a shit look bad by adding to a perpetual tantrum.
 

AkiraAkira

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Dec 28, 2017
1,181
Why? The GTS was really useful. I was already on the fence about buying, but this might be the first Pokemon gen I skip since 1996. I'll still hold out for reviews but beyond some of the cool new designs, what's been revealed isn't very promising.
 

Deleted member 224

Oct 25, 2017
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100% This.

Personally never liked the GTS always impossible to search and find Pokemon I wanted due to everyone wanting legendaries or level 100s and stuff like that. I do hope there is another feature that offers a way for players to acquire all of the Pokemon without having to directly trade or rely on RNG but at this point it feels like people are just digging for literally anything negative about the game to blow up about.
This can't be serious
 

Fj0823

Legendary Duelist
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,643
Costa Rica
A bit more examples on how bad the situation with these games actually is. And why fans are going nuclear.

Mod Edit: GIF with inappropriate language removed


Games are simply unfinished.

Can someone post the fishing one? I can't find it
 
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Forkball

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Oct 25, 2017
8,940
GTS was one of the greatest additions to the franchise and now it's likely going to be locked behind a paid service on top of another paid service.

GAMING 2019 BABY