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Stacey

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Those are some meaty recommended specs and that's without Ray Tracing.
 
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Jazzem

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Blooming eck, GTX 970 as the suggested minimum!? Aye, safe to say we're in next gen territory now @.@

I'm assuming those recommended specs are for 1080p60, I wonder if that'll remain the presumed output on rec specs for a while
 
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Stacey

Stacey

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When a game pushes the specs beyond a 1060 as recommended I would consider that meaty and as I said this is before ray tracing.
 

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That's not meaty at all. Probably gonna play it on Series X but I'll keep an eye on the PC version, looks like I'll be able to pretty much max it out probably.
 

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Don't understand the recommended GPUs.
Why a 5700 XT if the one from Nvidia is "only" a 1070 Ti?
What about Vega 64, 5600 XT, 5700?
 

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970 is like 6 years old. I doubt that is next gen territory
970 is still recommended for most games. Or a 1060 which is not much better. Microsoft Flight Sim recommended is a 970. It being minimum is absolutely a big shift, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first time it has ever been the minimum spec period.
 

c0Zm1c

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Pretty high minimum GPU considering it's also on current-gen systems. I wonder how well it actually scales down.
 

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Six year old GPUs for the minimum, no need to panic.

Games are appearing that confirm our PCs can no longer sleepwalk through ports anymore. Sink or swim time is upon those who rode out the PS4 generation with Maxwell/GCN GPUs.

970 is still recommended for most games. Or a 1060 which is not much better. Microsoft Flight Sim recommended is a 970. It being minimum is absolutely a big shift, I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first time it has ever been the minimum spec period.
The Medium lists the GTX 1060 for the minimum GPU, for "1080p Low details".

That's the winner so far.
 
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Rather than the recommended being meaty it's the minimum requirements that are pretty extreme. But minimum can mean all sorts of things.

970 is like 6 years old. I doubt that is next gen territory
GPU jumps take longer and are smaller than ever. Despite being 6 years old the current top card (2080Ti) is only 3.5-4x faster than a 970, meaning that if a 970 is actually minimum then all hardware is going to struggle at 4K.

Six year old GPUs for the minimum, no need to panic.

Games are appearing that confirm our PCs can no longer sleepwalk through ports anymore. Sink or swim time is upon those who rode out the PS4 generation with Maxwell/GCN GPUs.


The Medium lists the GTX 1060 for the minimum GPU, for "1080p Low details".

That's the winner so far.
Again the same kind of logic applies to what I said above here. Most Turing cards aren't that much faster than a 1060, especially when you apply the resolution factor.

I often have the feeling people overestimate the difference between newer & older cards. Like if the 1060 is truly minimum low at 1080p then there is no card that can do 4K atm because the 2080Ti is only 3x faster and that's not enough. You can't drop settings either as the 1060 is already at low.

That said if that were really the case then the XSX shouldn't be able to hit native 4K 30fps with a 2080 tier GPU unless we get another HZD tier port. I'll just guess that the minimum settings are somewhat overstated or they're referring to 60fps on PC.
 
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Stacey

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Rather than the recommended being meaty it's the minimum requirements that are pretty extreme. But minimum can mean all sorts of things.


GPU jumps take longer and are smaller than ever. Despite being 6 years old the current top card (2080Ti) is only 3.5-4x faster than a 970, meaning that if a 970 is actually minimum then all hardware is going to struggle at 4K.


Again the same kind of logic applies to what I said above here. Most Turing cards aren't that much faster than a 1060, especially when you apply the resolution factor.

I often have the feeling people overestimate the difference between newer & older cards. Like if the 1060 is truly minimum low at 1080p then there is no card that can do 4K atm because the 2080Ti is only 3x faster and that's not enough. You can't drop settings either as the 1060 is already at low.

That said if that were really the case then the XSX shouldn't be able to hit native 4K 30fps with a 2080 tier GPU unless we get another HZD tier port. I'll just guess that the minimum settings are somewhat overstated or they're referring to 60fps on PC.

Either the XSX is running low settings at 120fps or we're in for a reeeeeeeal shitty port, which would surprise me as Codemasters' track record is pretty good.
 
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1070ti? That seems a little lofty considering most games are asking for a 1060 recommended still. I wonder what resolution that is at though?
 

Launchpad

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Dirt runs at 120fps on XBSX so not surprising the specs aren't that big of a deal. Be interested to see what the specs are for some games running at 30 on consoles.
 

Black_Stride

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A 1070Ti isn't meaty, it's 2020 and the game will be on next-gen hardware too.

Really?
A 1070Ti isnt considered meaty in 2020?
That thing has RTX 2060 just shy of 1080 levels of performance...if you are telling me the RTX 2060 isnt meaty you reall need to get out of your bubble.


The 1070Ti is above the majority of gaming PCs that are out there.....if a 1070Ti is needed to get to 1080p60 that is very meaty.

The minspec RTX2060 future might come sooner than I thought.
 

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Without some context on the performance or settings for each configuration then system requirements don't really tell you very much.

We know the game runs at 120fps on PS5 with a similar CPU (lower clocks and IPC but access to 1 more core) and I don't think many would consider 120fps, "recommended" performance.
 

SpotAnime

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Holy crap this game must be CPU intensive. I hope that's just for 4K resolution. I have a R7 1700X and a 2070 Super, and my aim is to play upcoming games at or above PS5/XSX benchmarks in 1080p.

(I also have a NVMe SSD to meet recommended SSD specs).
 

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Holy crap this game must be CPU intensive. I hope that's just for 4K resolution. I have a R7 1700X and a 2070 Super, and my aim is to play upcoming games at or above PS5/XSX benchmarks in 1080p.

(I also have a NVMe SSD to meet recommended SSD specs).

It might be worth upgrading to a 3600 or 3700X assuming you can do so without changing your motherboard.
 

Black_Stride

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Simply by age and performance. A 1070Ti is a good card, but far from "meaty". I expect recommended specs in games that'll release on next-gen hardware to target high-end hardware.

Its RTX 2060 levels of performance.
Thats not meaty for rec spec?
A 2060 just to get to 1080p60?
Everyone with less i.e Most people are fucked.
Mate. Thats meaty whichever which way you look at it.

What are you expecting rec spec to be for it to justify being called meaty a 2080Ti?
I say again get out of that bubble man.
 

SpotAnime

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It might be worth upgrading to a 3600 or 3700X assuming you can do so without changing your motherboard.

It's not worth it. My MB is an ASRock X370 Taichi, which although supports Ryzen 3000 CPUs, sounds like people have all sorts of posting issues with them. It would make more sense to rebuild with a new MB and CPU, and that point new RAM as well, and that's going to be too costly of an endeavor for me right now.
 

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Lol. They changed the recommended:

AMD Vega 64---->5700XT
Ryzen 5 2600X--->3600X
 

Milennia

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Nice, these are reasonable based on what the game is going for visually.
1070ti is a weird one but sure.
 

dgrdsv

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Don't understand the recommended GPUs.
Why a 5700 XT if the one from Nvidia is "only" a 1070 Ti?
What about Vega 64, 5600 XT, 5700?
Yeah, 5700XT being recommended alongside 1070Ti looks like someone's mistake really.

A 1070Ti isnt considered meaty in 2020?
That thing has RTX 2060 just shy of 1080 levels of performance...if you are telling me the RTX 2060 isnt meaty you reall need to get out of your bubble.
2060 isn't "meaty" by any metric, mostly because it's a $300 GPU right now which will be upgraded to a cheaper 30 series one in three months or so.
 

Qudi

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I wished they specify at what resolution and framerate these specs are targeting.