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The Deleter

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The concept of not being able to do anything to a goose is wild, but in a situation where hurting it would probably be looked down upon, understandable I guess.

Chimpanzees though? Those guys are crazy
 

scottbeowulf

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Eoin

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i don't know which is crazier, someone thinking they can take on a gorilla or someone thinking they can't take on a house cat.
Probably there's some people who weren't sure how to interpret the question and figured that the cat would run away and that they therefore wouldn't beat it.

Plus also older people and/or people with mobility difficulties - there's a non-trivial percentage of people who genuinely would struggle to beat a cat.

(If those people were excluded from the survey that'd probably mean that like 50% of young able-bodied men think that they'd be able to take a chimp.)
 

DemyxC

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Lol. Never fails to amuse me just how clueless people are. Humans are pound for pound among the weaker animals on the planet.

Funnily, this reminds me of an amusing infamous thread on the NarutoFan Forums where one of the mods, Blue, argued for several pages that he could take on a grizzly with a katana.
Never thought I'd hear that name on this place.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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That's not remotely crazy. I'm impressed that 3/4 realize how deceptively powerful chimpanzees are. Considering how dumb people are, and how frankly irrelevant that piece of zoological trivia is, I'd rather educate the populace on, say, climate change or vaccine efficacy or just basic statistics than "chimps will fuck you up bro!"

But apparently Animal Planet is more popular than things that matter, so here we are.
If you'd rather educate the populace on that, go and fucking do it instead of whining about it here.
 

grand

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I get that people are largely meme'ing, but the goose talk is getting silly. Sure, they can be pests and they're quite hardy, but there's close to zero chance that a goose wins an actual fight with a human being. Same with cats. Trickier with medium-size dogs but generally it shouldn't be a problem. It goes downhill from there, and obviously people thinking they can take lions, bears, etc, are completely delusional.
The issue is that everyone is reading this question differently from "will I survive this?" & "will I win a fight to the death?" to "can I win and stay completely unharmed" & "would I even fight this?". It's an unbalanced question since people's questions seem to differ even between animals.
 

Tavernade

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I kinda feel like if a chimpanzee wants you dead it's the most dangerous thing on the list. Like, you can at least 'sort' of climb away from a Bear. Chimp is gonna rip your face off.
 

robot

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The lower 3rd of that list is all about intent. Geese are scary because they come at you 100% ready to throw down when most people aren't. Me against a goose with both of us absolutely ready to kill of course I'm going to crush that stupid neck.
 

Takuhi

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Are crocodiles REALLY in the elephant-lion league? Like, I assume the fight takes place on dry land and they can't ambush you. (And I assume we're talking American crocodiles here, not like Saltwater Crocs.)
 

Kingpin Rogers

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Not me. I still have memories of being a kid and getting attacked by a goose cause I had ice cream. I'm not taking one on ever.
 

Guppeth

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Are crocodiles REALLY in the elephant-lion league? Like, I assume the fight takes place on dry land and they can't ambush you. (And I assume we're talking American crocodiles here, not like Saltwater Crocs.)
I don't think it should take place entirely on dry land. How is it a fair fight if the terrain favours humans? It should be a closed arena with a mixture of terrain types, and maybe a Fortnite-style circle of death that forces the combatants to move around.

rats percentage should be way lower

Rodentphobia is pretty rampart
I don't agree. Being afraid of something doesn't mean you don't believe you can defeat it. I'm scared of wasps but I know I can beat one in a fight.
 

Toxi

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Are crocodiles REALLY in the elephant-lion league? Like, I assume the fight takes place on dry land and they can't ambush you. (And I assume we're talking American crocodiles here, not like Saltwater Crocs.)
Depends on what "beat" means here. How are you going to actually kill a crocodile? You can do the classic alligator wrestling move of straddling the shoulders to survive, but survival is basically the best you can hope for.

And that's assuming you can actually get in that position and know how to maintain it. One bite and croc will easily rip off your limb with a death roll.
 

Eoin

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Oct 27, 2017
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The one time women are more overconfident of their chances than men it's over lions. LIONS.

LOL.
Anything within a few percent here is pretty much just statistical noise.

The lions question gets weirder when you factor in don't knows. 10% of men and 8% of women aren't sure whether they could beat a lion in a fight or not. Overall, 17% of Americans think they might be able to beat a lion in a fight, without any weapons. Among 18 to 35 year olds that goes up to 28%.

I'm just trying to imagine how you'd even go about fighting an elephant.
The people answering that they'd beat an elephant clearly haven't ever seen one in anything like a real-life setting. They've got to be imagining something that's horse-sized or thereabouts. Even then, most of them are delusional in thinking that they'd win, but that's the only way it makes sense that any of them think that way. I think some of the other answers are based on a similar lack of any real knowledge about the creatures.

Are crocodiles REALLY in the elephant-lion league? Like, I assume the fight takes place on dry land and they can't ambush you. (And I assume we're talking American crocodiles here, not like Saltwater Crocs.)
Even on dry land, what are you doing to a crocodile to win? Like, let's say it just saunters over to you, then stops and makes no effort to harm you, magically. You're free to do whatever and all that it'll do is try to keep itself the right way up. What's your plan for beating it?

(Oh, and since we're gifting you the dry land, you don't get the win on the assumption about crocodile type. It's an adult male Nile crocodile - not as big as a Saltwater croc, but definitely not small).
 

Basileus777

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Oct 26, 2017
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The rat would be tougher to kill than the goose or cat. Cornering one isn't easy. Geese are stupidly aggressive, but won't have a chance against a human in a serious fight.
 

mutantmagnet

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Oct 28, 2017
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lol, I love how it breaks for men on every animal except for more women than men thinking they can take on a lion.

Clearly women have read up on their matchup tables.

Personally out of all these animals I couldn't kill (as in actively hunt down) any of them except a Cobra. Snakes have a tendency to take a defensive posture before attacking and their bodies are too frail to survive hits from a sufficiently large enough rock.

If any of these animals were the aggressors and got the jump on my for whatever reason I only see house cat and rats as survivable (ignoring the disease factor). Medium sized dogs and Geese are extremely iffy on my chances of survival.




And this is why Pokemon trainers are a thing. This goose is getting by on intimidating shout and that's it.
Are crocodiles REALLY in the elephant-lion league? Like, I assume the fight takes place on dry land and they can't ambush you. (And I assume we're talking American crocodiles here, not like Saltwater Crocs.)



Definitely above lions.
 

Takuhi

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Even on dry land, what are you doing to a crocodile to win? Like, let's say it just saunters over to you, then stops and makes no effort to harm you, magically. You're free to do whatever and all that it'll do is try to keep itself the right way up. What's your plan for beating it?

I would probably stomp on its head till it died? Woul that work? I mean, I guess I see your point that it would probably end in a draw, but you better believe that I would for the rest of my life tell myself I "took" a crocodile.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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The people answering that they'd beat an elephant clearly haven't ever seen one in anything like a real-life setting. They've got to be imagining something that's horse-sized or thereabouts. Even then, most of them are delusional in thinking that they'd win, but that's the only way it makes sense that any of them think that way. I think some of the other answers are based on a similar lack of any real knowledge about the creatures.
For elephant, I feel a lot of people just don't realize how dangerous large herbivores are. Like if you put "bull" here, I bet a ton of people would say they could beat a bull unarmed. Which... No. You can't. It's a fucking bull. It will kill you. At best, you can get in a position where it can't kill you and survive.

An elephant makes a bull look like a housecat.
 

Guppeth

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You're free to do whatever and all that it'll do is try to keep itself the right way up. What's your plan for beating it?
With that ruleset, I would start eating it. Might take a while, but I'd be victorious.

With a croc that actually wants to live, I'd stomp on its tail until it fled.

With a croc that won't flee, I'd stay behind it until I was too weak to keep going, then I'd collapse, then it'd eat me.
 

Casa

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I would probably stomp on its head till it died? Woul that work? I mean, I guess I see your point that it would probably end in a draw, but you better believe that I would for the rest of my life tell myself I "took" a crocodile.
Croc's have lightning quick strikes. Getting your foot anywhere near its mouth and you're done. Not to mention they can get to like 20 ft long and weigh hundreds and hundreds of pounds.
 

arcadepc

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I don't agree. Being afraid of something doesn't mean you don't believe you can defeat it. I'm scared of wasps but I know I can beat one in a fight.

Once the lady living on the ground floor in our summer resort called me to climb down the stairs. Apparently, a little mouse was hiding in her veranda behind a plant. I just took the broom and brushed it away. Had I not come, she would have waited for eternity.
 

mbpm

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I think I heard crocs although they have high jaw bite strength have low jaw strength for opening their mouths? So technically if you get real lucky you could hold its mouth closed and try to work the eyes.

And then the croc rolls over and crushes you because it's like 20 feet long and muscly.
 

Guppeth

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Personally out of all these animals I couldn't kill (as in actively hunt down) any of them except a Cobra. Snakes have a tendency to take a defensive posture before attacking and their bodies are too frail to survive hits from a sufficiently large enough rock.
Rocks aren't allowed. Drop the rock.

If you're allowed rocks, the eagle is allowed rocks, and then its win rate goes way up.

Once the lady living on the ground floor in our summer resort called me to climb down the stairs. Apparently, a little mouse was hiding in her veranda behind a plant. I just took the broom and brushed it away. Had I not come, she would have waited for eternity.
She doesn't want to fight it and if YouGov decided to hold a massive tournament to find out how accurate these results are, she wouldn't volunteer. But if she was forced to participate, she'd win against the mouse, and she knows that. She'd be so scared she'd fucking pulverise that mouse.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would probably stomp on its head till it died? Woul that work? I mean, I guess I see your point that it would probably end in a draw, but you better believe that I would for the rest of my life tell myself I "took" a crocodile.
Crocodiles have evolved to withstand kicks to the head from large hoofed herbivores. They're also absurdly pain tolerant. I've seen a video of a crocodile biting another croc's leg off with the second croc barely noticing.

Not to mention that if you're in the position to stomp on the crocodile's head, it's in the position to bite your leg and rip it clean off.

The best you can hope for with a croc is a stalemate. And that's assuming you're one hell of an alligator wrestler.
 

DrEvil

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LOL I had to kick a goose away from my dog this afternoon. This is very timely today.

it was charging very aggressively as we walked by and whacked my dog with its wing.
 

Ferrio

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Crocodiles have evolved to withstand kicks to the head from large hoofed herbivores. They're also absurdly pain tolerant. I've seen a video of a crocodile biting another croc's leg off with the second croc barely noticing.

Not to mention that if you're in the position to stomp on the crocodile's head, it's in the position to bite your leg and rip it clean off.

The best you can hope for with a croc is a stalemate.


"Crocodiles can live for 2 years without food or water."

You're not winning the stalemate either.
 

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How do more people think they could take on a kangaroo than a wolf? Like, I think I can probably take a wolf. A kangaroo though? Those fuckers are huge and swole. A kick from one would probably collapse my lungs or some shit.

Largest wolves can get up to 200 lbs and stand nearly 6ft on their hind legs.

Let's say an average size wolf of 130 lbs gets ahold of you.

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You've already lost a chunk of yourself and are bleeding all over the place.
 

mbpm

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Crocodiles have evolved to withstand kicks to the head from large hoofed herbivores. They're also absurdly pain tolerant. I've seen a video of a crocodile biting another croc's leg off with the second croc barely noticing.
Didn't know crocs were Viltrumites.
 

Takuhi

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Hmm... Okay, you've all convinced me a crocodile is probably unbeatable.

BUT I am QUITE confident any adult could take an eagle. They fly down to attack you, you punch or grab it, it can't fly anymore, you kill it easily. Yeah, it gets the first hit, and maybe takes out an eye, but come on, birds are just too frail. Convince me I'm wrong.
 

AnansiThePersona

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Y'all over-estimating chimps. The fuck a chimp gonna do when I pull out a TOOL?
 

PBalfredo

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What the hell is a goose going to do? Sure they're fearless, but they rely 100% on intimidation. Just keep your cool and its a lock. They got hollow bones, a long neck and I have grip strength. Actual irl Type Advantage. Easy.

My question is what's with the 20-30% that doesn't believe they can take on a rat? Outside of extreme phobias.
 

Toxi

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Didn't know crocs were Viltrumites.
It turns out there are a lot of videos of crocs biting off other crocs' legs. They get kinda crazy when there's food.



Hmm... Okay, you've all convinced me a crocodile is probably unbeatable.

BUT I am QUITE confident any adult could take an eagle. They fly down to attack you, you punch or grab it, it can't fly anymore, you kill it easily. Yeah, it gets the first hit, and maybe takes out an eye, but come on, birds are just too frail. Convince me I'm wrong.
Killing an eagle seems feasible. The eagle will give you hell though.

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arcadepc

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She doesn't want to fight it and if YouGov decided to hold a massive tournament to find out how accurate these results are, she wouldn't volunteer. But if she was forced to participate, she'd win against the mouse, and she knows that. She'd be so scared she'd fucking pulverise that mouse.

mouse needs only one bite to win, even if it dies.
 

mbpm

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What the hell is a goose going to do? Sure they're fearless, but they rely 100% on intimidation. Just keep your cool and its a lock. They got hollow bones, a long neck and I have grip strength. Easy.

My question is what's with the 20-30% that doesn't believe they can take on a rat?
Maybe they think the rat is too small/hard to catch lol
 

Casa

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I feel like a fight with a chimp would come down to the size of the human. Someone here mentioned the dude who plays The Mountain in Game of Thrones as an example. That guy is 6'9" and weighs like 400lbs. Someone huge like that with some combat training could easily take a chimp that maxes out at about 4-5ft and 120lbs.

Now a gorilla? Fuck that…