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COMICS!!! |OT| November 2020 | Dipped it in a bunch of mustard, took a bite, and it was not what I was expecting!
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I'm honestly surprised Magik has time to pursue a teaching career what with all the other x-men things going on.
And Wanda is working there too. That must be awkward...
And Wanda is working there too. That must be awkward...
Magik's been working with Wanda for like ages. It's one of those things they never address. Probably falls under "Eh, I've almost caused the end of the known universe twice, it happens."
I haven't seen them interact in Strange Academy yet. But I am only on issue 2.
Xavier or at least Krakoa is using her as a boogeyman but it's only on one info page and the book never talks about her or quicksilver
they've interacted elsewhere, albeit before Hickman's run. But yeah Wanda and magik being around each other isn't odd.
I mean, now that it's a thing that happened, it's kind of hard to fault characters for having an issue with Wanda? It was literal genocide. Unless they completely retcon it as a thing that happens, then yeah...
They need to more firmly Dark Phoenix it.
The problem is that it was a bad story where Wanda was a plot device, where the veil between fiction and reader was punctured and everyone came away understanding that nothing Wanda did was actually her fault. It's hard to build organic and satisfying conflict from that (see: over a decade of godawful X-Men stories about mutant genocide and literally nothing else) when the character we're meant to hold in contempt is as much a victim as those she wronged.
Remember post-AvX where Cyclops was a pariah? Same deets. We didn't resent Cyclops, we resented the writers for dragging him through the mud.
I love the idea of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver as Magneto kids as a piece of connected world building, but Wanda was never popular enough to overcome what Bendis inflicted on her and it's for the best that the twins are now totally divorced from the X-brand.
A woman just knocked on my door asking for a cigarette and to come in. When I told her no and that I didn't smoke, she called me a lying cunt.
Just saying so long in case I die today 😂
Just saying so long in case I die today 😂
It's like I accidentally clicked "display mobile view" and can't find my way back.
Why'd you lie to her, though?
Oh! Haha. That's interesting. I'm still not caught up, but I got cmx credit for my birthday, so I'll be buying more x-men comics soon.
Why'd they make it look like a website for an iPad? It was said they would destroy digital, not join them!
I'mma rent Knock Knock from iTunes and get the 4D experience.
I feel that the economically disenfranchised being swayed by three dollar speeches, allowing their hard times to foster resentment and seek a bogeyman to take the blame, that's how fascism starts and it starts because we seek a way out at the expense of a nebulous Other. Fuck you, got mine, that's how we get swayed by crooks with sweet tasting lies about our status as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
I think what Remender is saying is that fascism comes from duping people who don't have a lot into turning on people who may have even less, but that ignores that there's a level of willful denial in the face of the actions of wannabe fascists, that it's okay that they hurt and pillage and make life worse for everyone, just as long as the Other is also getting hurt just a bit more.
I think what Remender is saying is that fascism comes from duping people who don't have a lot into turning on people who may have even less, but that ignores that there's a level of willful denial in the face of the actions of wannabe fascists, that it's okay that they hurt and pillage and make life worse for everyone, just as long as the Other is also getting hurt just a bit more.
Right, right, but Cyclops didn't commit genocide. Like, this is the problem. Wolverine kills a few folks, we let that slide. The issue isn't Wanda went bad for a bit, it's Wanda committed full genocide, and they haven't 100% divorced her from it. The Inhumans actually sort of have the same problem now. You gassed entire cities.
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IST was already barebones as hell but now they actually made it less readable. lol
I bet they didn't even fix the "keep me logged in" bug.
Underhanded omnibus confirmation... the Batman: Road to No Man's Land Omnibus is getting into people's hands today and there's a teaser image at the very back. It reads "Continued in Batman: No Man's Land Omnibus Vol. 1..." In other words, at least two volumes of Batman: No Man's Land omnibuses in the works. Nothing too surprising, but good to have official.
Oh no, not that Azreal suit.Underhanded omnibus confirmation... the Batman: Road to No Man's Land Omnibus is getting into people's hands today and there's a teaser image at the very back. It reads "Continued in Batman: No Man's Land Omnibus Vol. 1..." In other words, at least two volumes of Batman: No Man's Land omnibuses in the works. Nothing too surprising, but good to have official.
I get that, but I'm saying nobody who actually cares about Scarlet Witch as a character is interested in holding her to task for it, because it's been 15 years and House of M is still the story that rendered her completely radioactive.
It is hella weird that it hasn't been explicitly undone, but all the damage has. Everyone's alive again. It's time to just forget it ever happened.
I also think the Inhumans, at the hands of writers who did not give a fuck about how those characters ticked, are now stuck in the same boat thanks to the Terrigen Mists storyline and how that affected the X-books, explicitly being positioned as replacements and antagonists to the X-Men (who, you know, have a lot more fans who are willing to spend money on X-Men comics).
just have it so there's actually two Scarlet Witches, one did M-Day and the other is genocide free
(not like that isn't going to happen anyway with the X-Men doing there thing while she probably shows up in Avengers and Strange Academy like nothing is happening)
hmmmm I think that Darkhold thing Orlando was doing before Covid was supposed to have heavy Scarlet Witch involvement. So yeah, do the above.
OR prepare your butts for Avengers vs. X-Men 2: This Time It's Personal
(not like that isn't going to happen anyway with the X-Men doing there thing while she probably shows up in Avengers and Strange Academy like nothing is happening)
hmmmm I think that Darkhold thing Orlando was doing before Covid was supposed to have heavy Scarlet Witch involvement. So yeah, do the above.
OR prepare your butts for Avengers vs. X-Men 2: This Time It's Personal
I honestly thought the whole point of AvX was redemption for scarlet witch. She combined her powers with Hope and straight up reversed House of Ms effect. Like what the hell else do ya want?
Very true on both parts.
Yeah, Inhumans also need a reset, or to foist off the blame to mind control or something. And Beast continues to suffer for working with them.
You letting Sean Spicer go for being the President's mouthpiece for lies? No? Like, mutants died en masse when their powers shut off. The surviving ones got re-powered, but again... horror. So it probably makes sense in universe that folks ain't happy with it. Like, again... I get the thrust, rehab Scarlet Witch firmly, but also, logically mutants hating her and note, just hating her, not actually doing anything else... makes sense.
that Azrael suit is one of the worst costumes ever, I hate it so much
theoretically all the people that died when their powers got turned off can be revived so it's like it never happened!
I say theoretically because we all know the revival system will be broken before too long
It was a half measure, is the thing. People still died, either directly because of no longer being Mutants or getting murdered by the Purifiers, and longtime fan favourites were still depowered. Even with AvX and Children's Crusade as attempts to fix Scarlet Witch, she was still stuck with the guilt of causing death on such a scale (hell I think there's one comic that explicitly states Wanda drove Mutants to extinction across the multiverse).
Then it got followed up by Uncanny "Scarlet Witch says Mutants have no culture" Avengers which tore the bandaid right off.
They uhh... really should do that. Now, while Hickman revival still works.
We don't talk about that. Though it did hurt Havok.
I mean, it kinda rings hollow when they have on count 4 genociders on Krakoa, whose genocides have not been undone.
these are the people that decided that the most efficient way to repower depowered mutants was an elaborate ceremony that would realisitically probably handle a dozen or so (and that's a stretch) mutants when there are potential thousands willing to undergo the process. it's like they forgot they lived in a comic book where nothing lasts forever.
But most of those are villains that they're just temporarily being nice with! (Point!)
One time Beast fired a death laser on an alternate reality on the presumption that they were *probably* evil.
Man they got mothafuckin apocalypse and mr sinister on the quiet council cut Wanda some slack
and beast has like 10x as many genocides lmao
Like I said, villains! Including Beast. Does anyone like Beast?
If Wanda wants to go full anti-hero, that'd be cool.
EDIT: Actually, I'm interested in seeing the writer who wants to try and rehab Beast.
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