I mean I agree, but someone tweeting that piracy numbers are just a bunch of people waiting for a better service is kinda oversimplifying the situation.
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COMICS!!! |OT| March 2020 | According to Ireland, St. Patrick threw all the snakes out of ComicERA. He missed some.
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I mean I agree, but someone tweeting that piracy numbers are just a bunch of people waiting for a better service is kinda oversimplifying the situation.
I've always figured people smarter than me have put lots of time and effort into trying to reach out to new audiences, and that the answer was just that they weren't there.
But what the hell, comics are so borked that it might just be due to Diamond's stranglehold and an unwillingness to change.
But what the hell, comics are so borked that it might just be due to Diamond's stranglehold and an unwillingness to change.
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But what you should figure even more than that is that people at the top of existing power structures will do anything they can to protect those power structures. It's a mistake to assume they want a better industry, if they aren't sure they would enjoy the same position in that new industry, where different kinds of knowledge and experience would be valued more.
Huh, this is more interesting than I thought it would be. So there's commentary on the comics fanbase in addition to the political aspects
I always felt a bit uncomfortable when superheroes are shown explicitly to aid in government military operations that are portrayed positively. Like David Reid's backstory in John's JSA and the way I remember it being framed was somewhat jingoistic. I understand that it's a deep-rooted part of the superhero medium but when writers try to tie them to "current" conflicts it often feels simplified at best
It's weird that the comics industry doesn't view itself the way the music industry does.
Once music piracy hit big, there was really no putting the genie back in the bottle. Selling music was never going to be profitable again.
Services like Spotify did replace piracy for a whole lot of people, but no one is out there living comfortable off the money coming in off those kinds of services.
But musicians still make money, on things like touring and merch. The actual music doesn't have value as a thing to be sold anymore, but it has value in creating and keeping fans, so there's demand for touring and merch.
Comics are the same way, but the actual creators don't benefit from it. Just like music makes money from touring and merch, comics make money from movie adaptations, video games, and an endless amount of merch. But creators don't see that money if they're work-for-hire. They only see that money on comics they own, where they're the one making these deals.
But even from Marvel and DC's perspective, they don't treat comics like a loss leader the same way the music industry sees music. And comics totally should be a loss leader, with the only purpose bring to keep people interested in characters and stories so they buy more merch and all that. And to look at what resonates with people, as a test area to see which concepts are worth adapting into more profitable media.
Once music piracy hit big, there was really no putting the genie back in the bottle. Selling music was never going to be profitable again.
Services like Spotify did replace piracy for a whole lot of people, but no one is out there living comfortable off the money coming in off those kinds of services.
But musicians still make money, on things like touring and merch. The actual music doesn't have value as a thing to be sold anymore, but it has value in creating and keeping fans, so there's demand for touring and merch.
Comics are the same way, but the actual creators don't benefit from it. Just like music makes money from touring and merch, comics make money from movie adaptations, video games, and an endless amount of merch. But creators don't see that money if they're work-for-hire. They only see that money on comics they own, where they're the one making these deals.
But even from Marvel and DC's perspective, they don't treat comics like a loss leader the same way the music industry sees music. And comics totally should be a loss leader, with the only purpose bring to keep people interested in characters and stories so they buy more merch and all that. And to look at what resonates with people, as a test area to see which concepts are worth adapting into more profitable media.
Cates' Thor is wild
Yeah but there's only a couple on the satchel so I think what bothers me is the asymmetry. Like there should be a couple more or just none on the satchel strap.
Yeah I feel the same way. My problems with Priest's run are 1) the characters don't feel like they talk like people, but they talk like Priest saying this is how people talk, if that makes sense; 2) for what Priest intended to be such a morally and sociopolitically complicated run of comics, it wraps up with a very pretty bow on top of it; 3) none of the actual Leaguers feel very much like characters. They all feel very flat, though that's not to say Priest didn't create voices for them and make sure they stood out from each other. Cyborg is the exception, as Priest uses him to drive home multiple points of commentary on society.
They are really beloved stories, but I felt they kind of bled together and weren't great binge reading. Partly due to how constrained Morrison was between each mini-crisis as he had to basically rework the team based on matters outside of his control every few months. But also, many of the stories feel a bit samey or formulaic, but again I feel this is more a problem with reading them in close proximity back to back.
They are fun in a way though, but be prepared as they are basically a string of world-ending crisis events on repeat for 6-ish issues a piece. It can grow tiring without some breathing room between arcs.
Movies are kind of the same. The only method they have to curb piracy is to release movies in theaters, and since they cant do that now they just delay.
I dont know what their answer to it should be, but I for one am tired of the theater 99% of the time.
It was good, and I'll probably pick it up, but it's not even near the top of my Morrison favorites.
See and then Avengers #32 did shit like Namor summoning the Phoenix and like I'm kinda into it again.
Goddamnit Percy
X-Force and Wolverine are hurting me in exactly the correct ways and I hate the man for it
Good Ben Percy
X-Force
Wolverine
Green Arrow
Bad Ben Percy
Teen Titans
Nightwing
X-Force and Wolverine are hurting me in exactly the correct ways and I hate the man for it
Good Ben Percy
X-Force
Wolverine
Green Arrow
Bad Ben Percy
Teen Titans
Nightwing
Giant-Size Nightcrawler is certainly something. Bringing back my girl
The X-Men are dumb
Moreso now after the "Von Doom Particles" "Godpower " "Von Doom Particles" conversation.
The X-Men are dumb
Man Suicide Squad is a special kind of book
Tom Taylor doing good work
But do I love it this time?
Tom Taylor doing good work
Sometimes
But do I love it this time?
That's a damn shame. You should get back at least what you put in, so I'm sorry you had to go through that.
I will never get over the page that's all just Moore/Gibbons double meanings, it's probably my favorite single page they ever did together, I hate how all of it just lands so well. I love it.
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The coloring is a pointed critique of comic art, man.this colorist decided emma doesn't have a chest cavity and instead just has breasts connecting the top half of her body to the bottom
ooo here's the finalized cover for uncanny x-men omnibus vol.4
Wow, that logo shading/gradient looks ugly as hell. Marvel going back to their $5 design budget.
God yes birds stink. I actually think my parrots smell pleasant but the smell is very noticeable in a closed room and my friends have often complained
Sometimes I don't notice that I forgot to color a spot in. But with comics multiple people check it, so how someone didn't notice is a mystery. Her hand also looks too small (could just be the angle) and it's bugging me.this colorist decided emma doesn't have a chest cavity and instead just has breasts connecting the top half of her body to the bottom
ooo here's the finalized cover for uncanny x-men omnibus vol.4
FINE! I'll buy comics.
I really hate when they put these awesome new covers on old material. The art on the cover looks so good, and then you immediately get slapped in the face with disappointment once you open the book.ooo here's the finalized cover for uncanny x-men omnibus vol.4
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