I liked Wiig, honestly, and thought she did the best she could with the absolutely awful material. Pascal, Pine, and Wiig tried to salvage it, but it was an impossible task.
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I liked Wiig, honestly, and thought she did the best she could with the absolutely awful material. Pascal, Pine, and Wiig tried to salvage it, but it was an impossible task.
New 52 Aquaman outsold every Marvel comic on the stand for three months.
Yeah and look how that ended up. Brief sales flashes followed by returning to their number two spot.
Marvel's pulled ahead in the market basically since the 60s.
When I saw Wonder Woman I thought her fish out of water awkwardness as endearing and intentional and it turns out that's just her acting style.
I bought it during a sale but still haven't read it after reading the preview on Comixology. I'm more interested now. I remember seeing a tweet by a random fan asking the writer to write a new Birds of Prey book featuring Cass, Harper, and Steph and she said she'd love to so that intrigued me more as to how she'd written the character.It's been a while since I read it, but I really liked it. Like Oracle Code, it's a stand alone. Cass "fails" her last assassination mission and hides in a library, learning to communicate from observing the people who frequent it. It's all about not letting the past define you who you are and being able to choose who your family is.
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I see. I got the trade since it was hella cheap. So TY for feedback. I guess I can start it now if I want lol
when do you switch to an idolmaster avatar?
I know lol. That's why I said when do you switch to one
If you're gonna use Love Live, you should join the winning team and use one from the Nijigasaki series!
Jokes about Miura liking idolmaster are okay. The one that's been played out for years with zero variation or creativity is "I guess Berserk is gonna get delayed again lololol" whenever a new idolmaster game is announced.
Now someone buy me the idolmaster scotch, please:
That's what happens when you hire people who say things like "Justice Society is a good comic that's selling decently? Cancel it. DC shouldn't be publishing comics about senior citizens." That's not from Johns' run. This happened in the 90's. Mike Carlin had them cancel a title that people liked and was selling well because HE didn't think it should exist. DC destroys what people love about it then wonder how they can get their sales up.
After letting it stew for longer, Wiig did the best she could. She totally went all in hamming it up. I found the final fight fairly fun. Even though the Cheetah costume didn't quite look anything like the comics. I 100% agree it was an awful script and poorly written character motivations. Plus it didn't save Gadot from being so dull.
Honestly, I have no idea how Gadot got a Hollywood acting career. 🤷♂️ My best friend told me the Fast and The Furious reboot blew her up. I've only seen her in Triple 9 and she was the old attractive and scantily clad love interest of one of the heroes trope but lifeless AF. That movie was also pretty terrible and I saw it for free with said friend.
Gadot is really dull in the Fast and the Furious movies too.
Maybe not as much as she is in Wonder Woman though.
BKatastrophe enjoying Rucka's original WW run makes me happy. Not nearly enough people talk about how great that book is.
I know exactly what kind of DCU I like. It's the one where all the good ideas were coming back after DiDio forced them out for more tits and violence, then when he got full control again he did it all over again.
DC has its own niche and audience and instead of capitalizing on everything that makes their universe great and distinct from Marvel they double down on every shitty trend they can think of. If they can't have all the money then it's worthless.
Maybe Warner Media will get her right on the small screen someday once they get tired of Gadot. Pascal's Maxwell Lord was much better than Super Girl's version of Maxwell Lord though so sometimes it's the opposite effect. Now I'm thinking about Gabriel Luna's performance as Ghost Rider in Agents of Shield and I feel sad he didn't get his own series. 😭
Ya'll are reminding me to give the Rucka WW run a whirl. I'll make it a goal to try and read more DC stuff this year. Dan Mora has my attention so it's a start. Tynion IV's Batman run I will have to try too.
And that's where you get the idea that reebots are part of DC's identity, because they keep doing it all the time.
Remember when New 52 got rid of all married couples because Didio said it alienated reader, and then they brought back Superman married with a kid and it was the best run since Morrison?
I think what I like the most about it is all the characters and storylines he manages to have going on at once. There's never a dull moment. If it's not Athena and her crew plotting around then it's Ares, and if it's not him then it's Circe, and if it's not her then it's Veronica, and then you have Diana and everyone at the embassy and Leslie. Everyone has such fully developed motivations, too. There's always something happening. It feels very character driven, and I like that. Over all the runs of Wonder Woman I've read I think I've finally gotten a grasp on why I like the character so much and she honestly might be one of my favorite superheroes ever now.
My one problem is that the Ferdinand/Leslie relationship feels a bit forced. Like all of a sudden Ferdinand wants to "remove his curse" so Leslie will look at him like a man and I'm like "but all you've done is bring her food."
gal gadot sucks as wonder woman. she has zero charisma and does like nothing to channel diana's character imo
All that tells me is DC are their own worst enemy with regards to their characters and identity.
DC is in perpetual little brother mode.
Didn't the New 52 happen in the first place because DiDio's bosses got on his case to drum up sales?
More like, "if they can't have the money THEIR way" it's worthless.
No joke, Dan Didio has played a part in completely ruining DC's continuity. Right now "everything's canon" because they can't actually find a way to make a specific canon because they've fucked it too much.
She's ok. Needs a better director tbh. Her speech at the end of the new movie was "decent" if not great, but the way it was set up and shot was questionable at best.
Rucka's run made her catapult into my Top 10 easily. Potentially my Top 5 if you pushed me, she's amazing when she's written well. If you get the chance, the Phil Jimenez run is great too.
I feel like Didio ended up with the majority of the blame for DCs fucked up line.
But I doubt we will ever know to what extent he was actually responsible.
At the time yeah their sales were considered unacceptable. But they didn't need a reboot, they needed a line refresh like Marvel did with Marvel NOW. Take some high profile creators and put them on books with new ideas. This always failed because Didio reached out to the wrong people. This is why Rebirth was a bigger success than New 52 in my eyes.
The New 52 had higher initial sales, but their weakest books took way less time to hit cancellation levels. 8 months to Rebirth's year plus.
The Johns thing is interesting to me, because the setup was so good, but the stuff he eventually delivered years afterward stunk. Shazam! started well, but his other projects were underwhelming, to be kind. I don't know if the delays and editorial changes screwed everything, or if he had great ideas but didn't actually think through an endgame.
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Imagine Hickman writing Spidey books. Seriously it might be outrageous but he might go for some full on gangwar shit with Spidey/DD, street level stuff. Man I want it to happen, altho Hickman doesn't like Spidey at all.
I recall really liking Rucka Wonder Woman, but then the Infinite Crisis/Max Lord stuff popping up derailed it and IIRC it didn't recover and just kinda stopped with stuff hanging. At least from what I recall, it was a run that feels like it's building towards something, but then is never allowed to get there, which is a shame and a big pet peeve for me.
Wish Marvel/DC would give more leeway to wrap things up on series on the way out than they seem to (IE be like "okay, we're cancelling your run. You have X months to tie things up neatly"), but a lot of times it feels even worse than insta-cancelled Shonen Jump series jumping to an end... (Though admittedly that leeway's probably easier to give in a weekly anthology magazine than standalone monthly comics...)
Wish Marvel/DC would give more leeway to wrap things up on series on the way out than they seem to (IE be like "okay, we're cancelling your run. You have X months to tie things up neatly"), but a lot of times it feels even worse than insta-cancelled Shonen Jump series jumping to an end... (Though admittedly that leeway's probably easier to give in a weekly anthology magazine than standalone monthly comics...)
Doesn't he?
That's a shame. I'd like to see how a Hickamn Spider-man run would turn out.
I remember an interview with Ben Percy about Green Arrow Rebirth about Johns bringing him into a room, sitting him in front of a board, and just story boarding everything that they thought of that made Green Arrow "Green Arrow."
First thing they thought of was the beard, which Percy said he wasn't allowed to do in the N52. I also remember in a much later interview after leaving the book that Percy said he had plans to bring in Connor Hawke eventually.
Dude, did you see his FF run? Some of the best parts there are Spidey related.
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I think Brother Eye has my favorite non-normal dialogue style in comics. Just the bubbles and using "eye". Just so perfectly ominous and creepy.
Here's Phillip Kennedy Johnson talking about his original 5G plans and how he plans on integrating them into his Superman run:
Quote is from his Word Ballon Podcast interview, copied from BC:
Quote is from his Word Ballon Podcast interview, copied from BC:
Phillip Kennedy Johnson Was Hired By DC For 5G - But Not On Superman
One of Bleeding Cool's biggest scoops of 2019 was the news that DC Comics was planning a major relaunch called 5G. It would have seen the DC Comics
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DC doesn't need blowing up and restarting. They tried that with the New 52 and it didn't work.
They just need good new creative teams, writing the best stories they can, with the characters they enjoy.
And not cancelling well recieved books before they get and chance to bloom.
They just need good new creative teams, writing the best stories they can, with the characters they enjoy.
And not cancelling well recieved books before they get and chance to bloom.
Wonder Woman executing Max Lord immediately followed by Amazons Attack? Well if that isn't a way to destroy a run I don't know what is
So good
They actually teased Connor midway through the Rebirth run - was always curious how they'd work him in with a younger Ollie. Would have had an interesting dynamic with the modern Team Arrow guys.
In retrospect they really fucked up Rebirth Green Arrow. Percy gets moved to Nightwing (where he lasts, like, six issues before he gets booted for the whole Ric Grayson nonsense and goes to Marvel), they bounce it from team to team without any real plan, gets cancelled at like a year later. Now we're coming up on two years and GA hasn't had a book since. At least he'll be in the Bendis League, but like, I can't think of the last time he didn't have his own.
I'm pretty sure your investigation went:
DC:
Harley Quinn: ✅
Punchline: ✅
Marvel:
Harley Quinn: ❎
Punchline: ❎
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