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Us not being forced to buy it makes it less stupid?
We were all excited for what's next and this is a dud for me.
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Us not being forced to buy it makes it less stupid?
We were all excited for what's next and this is a dud for me.
Tini Howard actually came up with the name.UPDATE: Turns out X of Swords is a tarot card, Hickman redeemed, he's just too smart for me.
mocking the x-men is what gives me solace for fans allowing trash like fallen angels to outsell actual good books just because it was a dawn of x title
UPDATE: Turns out X of Swords is a tarot card, Hickman redeemed, he's just too smart for me.
the truth shall set you free
I feel bad for giving that book like 5 issues before I dropped it
sorry Marvel!
Uhh, sorry pal, says "Jonathan Hickman presents" right at the bottom?
That's actually very clever of her, with the tarot theme that popped up in HoXPoX. I assume in general he's going to get credit for all of the good stuff and everyone else will get ignored and/or blamed for the bad stuff.
I made up for it by not buying a single issue of Fallen Angels.
it's Hickman, so everything bad now is clearly just a set up for something good later
I kid
boo
I'm a sucker for purple color palettes, what can I say
(I kept forgetting to remove it from my pull list earlier)
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Fair enough. I'll admit finding out it's more Howard then Hickman is a massive bummer but I like the stupid.
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It would be better if Apocalypse made himself gigantic and used Cyclops as a lightsaber.
Messi just mad X of Swords isn't the new season of Demon Slayer.
Bad news for Suicide Squad - the first volume of the new run is now listed as Suicide Squad: The Complete Tom Taylor Series. So, that sucks.
That makes sense considering what happened with Brian, and that sword in Excalibur, and having him on that key art.
Hope Nightcrawler joins the book after!
So that would mean the series is ending in May unless they update the description.
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i picked these up this week and they're really good. don't let it ending stop y'all from checking it out! the new characters are really cool.
The book is supposed to be about 10 Swords and the sword you mentioned will probably be the main one. the majority of the swords in the promo art probably won't appear or be important.
"forge, so we've got these 10 important swords we have to all wear, but it's making all of the other x-men a bit sword-envious, you know? could you make swords for everyone?
cyclops "FORGE I WANT A LIGHTSABER"
wolverine "I WANT A KATANA"
I don't understand how Tom Taylor can simultaneously be such a good and bad writer. It's legitimately stunning.
He has the uncanny ability to make any protagonist extremely compelling while simultaneously being incapable of giving antagonists even a second's worth of thought beyond comical evil. Even when protags and antags switch their quality of writing does too. It's baffling.
He has the uncanny ability to make any protagonist extremely compelling while simultaneously being incapable of giving antagonists even a second's worth of thought beyond comical evil. Even when protags and antags switch their quality of writing does too. It's baffling.
I think Wolverine's katana is the Muramasa blade
He's never been great with villains. He's like the MCU of writers.
I just realized the shop forgot American Jesus from my pull this week, but I wasn't feeling it anyway. I guess I'll just replace it with something else this Wednesday. Maybe I'll try out the new Star Wars mainliner.
Yeah and that's true of a lot of writers. What makes him stand out to me is that he can take the same character and have them be a great hero and the moment they switch sides their writing quality suddenly drops off a cliff. The best examples I can think of are when Logan becomes antagonistic to Gabby in ANW and Wonder Woman's characterization leaping off a cliff in Injustice but it happens a LOT with him.
I don't hate him. His books usually wind up among my top 5 for any given year they come out, in fact.
But you don't get to write Taskmaster THIS poorly and not catch flak from me.
Even ignoring the fact he was acting out of character to even take this job- he has rules against going after kids, mutants, and Wolverine, and this violates all three- his dialogue is just nonsensical. He's clearly not even trying to fight back, dropping his gun and sword and just countering without following up, and yet he talks like he's going to kill her. It's just weird and nowhere near his usual personality. He can be apathetic or he can be cocky - but having him try to be both doesn't work.
And I want to emphasize I had no problems with him losing here. He's a villain, he loses a lot, that's part of the deal. But he either should have been fighting all out or trying to talk her down without sounding like a backhanded asshole. Doing neither just doesn't fit.
And yes, I know all roads lead back to Taskmaster with me, But I'm using him as an example here only because hes the character I know most intimately and most easily recognize poor writing for. In the same book he does the same thing for Logan, Fin Fang Foom, and even Kimura, though Kimura was always kind of a one dimensional piece of tripe anyways so no big loss on that one.
Nightcrawler also has that sword that Cardinal was using in the alt-future. Douglok has a Warlock sword that's plugged into his arm. Cable's sword looks pretty inspired by Cloud's bustersword.
I like how Xavier is written like a prick even in non x-books (invaders)
He does write villains poorly though.
Fair enough, I like most of Toms books, even this.I don't hate him. His books usually wind up among my top 5 for any given year they come out, in fact.
But you don't get to write Taskmaster THIS poorly and not catch flak from me.
Even ignoring the fact he was acting out of character to even take this job- he has rules against going after kids, mutants, and Wolverine, and this violates all three- his dialogue is just nonsensical. He's clearly not even trying to fight back, dropping his gun and sword and just countering without following up, and yet he talks like he's going to kill her. It's just weird and nowhere near his usual personality. He can be apathetic or he can be cocky - but having him try to be both doesn't work.
And I want to emphasize I had no problems with him losing here. He's a villain, he loses a lot, that's part of the deal. But he either should have been fighting all out or trying to talk her down without sounding like a backhanded asshole. Doing neither just doesn't fit.
And yes, I know all roads lead back to Taskmaster with me, But I'm using him as an example here only because hes the character I know most intimately and most easily recognize poor writing for. In the same book he does the same thing for Logan, Fin Fang Foom, and even Kimura, though Kimura was always kind of a one dimensional piece of tripe anyways so no big loss on that one.
He does write villains poorly though.
UPDATE: Turns out X of Swords is a tarot card, Hickman redeemed, he's just too smart for me.
So why can't the key art be Wolverine stabbed by lots of swords instead??!
That's good news - I figure he'll be getting at least, like, 12 issues if he's that bullish publicly. Always possible it's a reboot/relaunch type thing with 5G coming.
I talked about this before when I read the Burnside Batgirl run, but one of the big problems with solo books these days is when they try to spin these characters off is that the new characters created, if any, are not memorable and regardless of whether they are or aren't they are never reused. People just constantly either make their own characters, or reuse popular ones. Nothing sticks, nothing's memorable. Ms. Marvel has nothing really. Ahmed is doing a solid job at trying to build on what Willow had, but Willow didn't do a great job with her antagonists.
Everyone wants to create the perfect, charming fun supporting cast, but no one thinks about the villains and they're so forgettable. Tynion does a good job but that shit won't get reused.
We've had this conversation in this community, but legit it's almost impossible to think of any memorable villains within the past decade. With any staying power. Court of Owls? Batman Who Laughs?
Seriously go through 2010-2019.
I mean I'll stan for the First Victim all day.
I agree. Wish more was done with them in comics. Talon had moments and Strix in BOP was a delight.
This is extremely true, at least among Marvel. I don't read a ton of DC but I can't think of a single memorable new villain from Ms Marvel, Miles Morales, Gwenpool, Laura, JaneThor, or Robbie Reyes.
I guess you could ALMOST count Prowler but man is that stretching the definition of both new and villain.
At the end of the day, Batman Who LMAOs is just another derivative version of Batman. Court of Owls was a great story, but I don't think they're interesting enough to have any real longevity.
The Victim Syndicate was a crop of awesome designs that hasn't gotten enough time on the page. And I feel that way about Mr. Bloom as well. These characters are never going to become the next Joker or Penguin if they're used for a couple arcs before being discarded. And I think the golden age comics were more conservative about creating new characters. Now, everyone writing a comics wants to make new characters. It's almost meaningless.
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