Oh lord, that Larry Stroman guy is the one responsible for the 4 issues of awful art in the X-factor run I just read.
He was the one who did the art in the older series too?
Oof is it just as bad?
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Oh lord, that Larry Stroman guy is the one responsible for the 4 issues of awful art in the X-factor run I just read.
He was the one who did the art in the older series too?
Oof is it just as bad?
I think most people thought it was dumb and unnecessary, or hoping it was a fake out. I'm tired or Cates retcons lol
9-part JL story to fill time in December. Seems to be decent if you aren't a weirdo that doesn't understand why it's going on the same time as Death Metal.
All you need to know is that Bastion revived a bunch of dead X-villains, iirc. Which is set up in Kyle and Yost's X-Force. X-Factor is almost completely removed from the event since they're not in Utopia. It's very much an unrelated tie-in and doesn't impact the rest of the book.
i'm pretty surprised david's x-factor is high. almost higher than transmet or bone, for christ's sake! insane.
there was def a bunch of folk just having casual sex within the authority that's reflected poorly in the context of ellis' problems, unfortunately.
lol they really are toning it down, aren't they? "knull is arriving" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
I'm not sure I can agree with this.
X-factor 204 basically starts with Madrox and his team under siege by an unexplained army of dudes with guns.
I think they are being literally attacked by the US army. But fuck knows why.
It's like part 5 of the second coming story and I have no idea what is happening.
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Oh this reminded me that whatsinaname also liked Sports is Hell I think. I'm gonna have to check that one out since I enjoyed BTTM FDRS and Your Black Friend.Here are NPR's Best Comic Books and Graphic Novels of 2020!
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- Apsara Engine by Bishakh Som
- Banned Book Club by Kim Hyun Sook and Ryan Estrada, illustrated by Ko Hyung-Ju
- Black Heroes Of The Wild West by James Otis Smith
- Dancing After TEN by Vivian Chong and Georgia Webber
- The Daughters Of Ys by M.T. Anderson, illustrated by Jo Rioux
- Fantastic Four: Grand Design by Tom Scioli
- Flamer by Mike Curato
- Glass Town: The Imaginary World Of The Brontës by Isabel Greenberg
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- Notes On A Case Of Melancholia: Or, A Little Death by Nicholas Gurewitch
- The Plain Janes by Cecil Castellucci and Jim Rugg
- Solutions And Other Problems by Allie Brosh
- Sports Is Hell by Ben Passmore
- Twins by Varian Johnson, illustrated by Shannon Wright
- When Stars Are Scattered by Victoria Jamieson and Omar Mohamed, illustrated by Iman Geddy
- Wonder Woman: Dead Earth by Daniel Warren Johnson with Mike Spicer
- Year Of The Rabbit by Tian Veasna
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How did you guys like Wonder Woman Dead Earth? I saw some stuff out of context that seemed a bit... mean spirited I guess. So I wasn't sure how that actually panned out in the context of the story and all. I do like Wonder Woman quite a bit so I would be up for an elseworlds story.
Have you read it? It's pretty much "not a lot people have read it but the people who have know it's amazing" the book. You can tell by it getting more first place votes than any of the others.
The plot is basically that Bolivar Trask was revived and still found a place in the US Govt (because of course), and under orders from Bastion went after X-Factor. Second Coming is good and worth reading but X-Factor is not at all involved in the main storyline unless I'm misremembering. The main storyline takes place almost entirely in San Francisco.
It's ok I was planning on getting to Second Coming as part of my reading anyway.
Honestly I'm not surprised David's X-factor is that high on the list. As someone who is literally reading it at the moment. It's really damn good.
Honestly I'm not surprised David's X-factor is that high on the list. As someone who is literally reading it at the moment. It's really damn good.
Ant Man's Big Christmas is both trying to be uplifting and yet, they torture almost the whole family.
Who doesn't love a bit of torture to get into the festive spirit?
are they finally going to start stealing from the YJ show?
Of a tropical storm?
I'm not sure I even understand enough to be angry. I haven't read it.
Is it a lazy dumb thing where 'you know Galactus has heralds? Well Galactus was actually a herald of an even BIGGER bad guy?! SHOCK HORROR
Fucking finally!
EDIT: Oh right, it just includes volume 1 X-Factor. Hopefully this one sells and they put out the rest of the omnis as fast as they have been doing his Hulk omnis.
Yeah, the latter.
He's a Herald of the thing that destroyed the universe where he came from and now it came to ours to kill him.
Ellen Page, now known as Elliot, just came out as transgender today. They were in Juno, Beyond Two Souls, and now in Umbrella Academy.
Cant imagine how hard it must have been for them just normally, but also being a movie star and in the public eye.
EDIT: Just saw the OT thread, my bad
Cant imagine how hard it must have been for them just normally, but also being a movie star and in the public eye.
EDIT: Just saw the OT thread, my bad
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Is it a meta-joke on how Galactus was turned into a shitty space storm in that crap FF movie?
Yesssss! After disappearing for a good, long time into the void, Spider-girl Complete Collection 3 is apparently resolicited as it's dated for April on Amazon. Hope once more lives that Mayday can keep on skating by with these rereleases. Really hoping they can at least make it through her full initial run, and ideally keep rolling through the rest...
Damn, sounds like Alex Ross is a little pissed off at DC/WB for not paying or crediting him for his work on some of the characters and designs used in the movies and tv shows. Didnt know he designed Batwoman.
For the Kingdom Come Superman in the Crisis crossover:
Then Wonder Woman and Batwoman:
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Around an hour and 10 minutes in.
Hadnt noticed that he stopped working for WB/DC. Guess he has been doing mostly Marvel stuff these days. What a way to shit on one your biggest creators.
EDIT: But its time to stop hoping these companies are going to just pay creators out of the goodness of their own hearts lol. Nothing is going to change until theres a lawsuit or something that forces them to pay, even if they signed some sort of contract. Either that or creators need to start negotiating better contracts that include this sort of stuff.
For the Kingdom Come Superman in the Crisis crossover:
Then Wonder Woman and Batwoman:
Source:
Alex Ross Art Merging Genres
Alex Ross talks with @johnwordballoon about the new UNSEEN art book... and much more! The UNSEEN 2020 art book is available now only at http://Alex Ross Art...
www.youtube.com
Around an hour and 10 minutes in.
Hadnt noticed that he stopped working for WB/DC. Guess he has been doing mostly Marvel stuff these days. What a way to shit on one your biggest creators.
EDIT: But its time to stop hoping these companies are going to just pay creators out of the goodness of their own hearts lol. Nothing is going to change until theres a lawsuit or something that forces them to pay, even if they signed some sort of contract. Either that or creators need to start negotiating better contracts that include this sort of stuff.
Worth saying that Peter David has said some pretty sus things, but as a creator his talent is excellent. His Aquaman, Supergirl, and Young Justice were some of the 90's best comics. He also did a fantastic job on Spectacular Spider-Man and wrote the Hulk at a high level about as long as Claremont did the X-Men. He doesn't get the attention of a lot of the british dudes (Gillen, Gaiman, Moore, Morrison, Millar) because he lacks that major independent hit.
I picked up the Fearless Defenders run just to see this lol. I had no idea.
What on earth did DC do to Ross?
Refused to pay him for something?
The story about how according to legalese the character of Killer Frost has no creator is mindblowing. WB/DC is wack as hell.Damn, sounds like Alex Ross is a little pissed off at DC/WB for not paying or crediting him for his work on some of the characters and designs used in the movies and tv shows. Didnt know he designed Batwoman.
For the Kingdom Come Superman in the Crisis crossover:
Then Wonder Woman and Batwoman:
Source:
Alex Ross Art Merging Genres
Alex Ross talks with @johnwordballoon about the new UNSEEN art book... and much more! The UNSEEN 2020 art book is available now only at http://Alex Ross Art...
Around an hour and 10 minutes in.
Hadnt noticed that he stopped working for WB/DC. Guess he has been doing mostly Marvel stuff these days. What a way to shit on one your biggest creators.
EDIT: But its time to stop hoping these companies are going to just pay creators out of the goodness of their own hearts lol. Nothing is going to change until theres a lawsuit or something that forces them to pay, even if they signed some sort of contract. Either that or creators need to start negotiating better contracts that include this sort of stuff.
I'd link it if I could find it.
Ooooh noooooo
That's not a good book tho
Yea, thats what my post was laying out with those quotes. They stopped paying him for his work on characters and designs used in the movies and TV shows.
That sucks. I'm just watching the video you linked now.
Absolute foolishness for DC to chase away a talent like that.
Although Alex Ross is now doing some of his best work on all those Hulk covers.
So DCs loss is Marvel's gain.
Edit: Too late, Vic was on it lol. But yeah this kinda blows. I wanna say Gerry Conway talked about what Alex Ross is dealing with as far as not being paid a while back.
That was totally unnecessary, but eh, whatever. I thought the part where Thor blows him up was a lot dumber
After reading that stuff about Ross I actually wonder how that works for costumes/design work? Surely he was paid upfront for the designs, but since they're costumes and not new characters are there royalties? Did McKelvie get royalties from Disney for the Captain Marvel design? I've never really thought about that before.
Yea I dunno about say something like that Wonder Woman golden armor design. But when its something like Kingdom Come Batman or Superman, thats something he should have gotten some sort of payment for.
I'm not sure how Marvel/Disney handles it but prior to the AT&T buyout at least (and I can't imagine it changing after), WB/DC didn't give royalties for characters that weren't wholly original. So KC Batman and Superman for example are just derivatives of existing IP, so Waid/Ross wouldn't receive royalties if they are/were used in movies, TV, etc.. The Killer Frost thing BKatastrophe was talking about is the best example of that.
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Back to Disney/Marvel, after BvS came out there was that quote from Starlin about how he got a bigger royalty check from WB for KGBeast in BvS than he had combined to date from Disney for all the characters he created appearing in the MCU.
I just assume anyone working in comics before the TV/Movie explosion got screwed over. Maybe Marvel screws people over less since these discussions seem to revolve around DC more, but then there was the Starlin Thanos/KGBeast thing a few years back so who knows.
It'd be better that the model change but at least modern writers and artists know how the business works. I remember prior to HoXPoX or at least early on Hickman said he was only going to create new characters if they fit the story he was going to tell, clearly because he knew he wasn't going to be making much in the way of money off of them anyway. Probably why Genesis and the original four horseman were such non-characters despite Marvel's hype lol.
Unless your Jimmy Palmiotti and want to become a co-creator of Harley Quinn
It'd be better that the model change but at least modern writers and artists know how the business works. I remember prior to HoXPoX or at least early on Hickman said he was only going to create new characters if they fit the story he was going to tell, clearly because he knew he wasn't going to be making much in the way of money off of them anyway. Probably why Genesis and the original four horseman were such non-characters despite Marvel's hype lol.
Unless your Jimmy Palmiotti and want to become a co-creator of Harley Quinn
No. What happened there?
I do know Marvel has a long history of screwing artists.
You get nothing. It's all work for hire. This is essentially the problem, and Ross sort of touches upon it a bit.
They technically don't have to pay him shit. They used to throw a little bit of money his way and acknowledge he was the dude that made the costume. That's not legally needed, it's just being nice. But DC Comics is now under AT&T, who is cutting hard across the company. If you're cutting employees, why bother paying to acknowledge a guy who you already gave a paycheck for the original work? Best case, they bring him onset for Batwoman once and pay him a little.
I've listened to most of the Alex Ross video and I think I have an understanding of the situation.
It seems nebulous legally if DC has to pay any money to creators for using designs they created in other media.
Before this year when WB has cut back on everything, they were giving a little money to creators each time just to keep them happy and ward off any potential lawsuits.
Like if you accept their money, you can't then turn around and sue them.
But now all that has gone, everyone, Alex Ross included is feeling a little (justifiably) put out.
It seems nebulous legally if DC has to pay any money to creators for using designs they created in other media.
Before this year when WB has cut back on everything, they were giving a little money to creators each time just to keep them happy and ward off any potential lawsuits.
Like if you accept their money, you can't then turn around and sue them.
But now all that has gone, everyone, Alex Ross included is feeling a little (justifiably) put out.
Bill Mantlo created Rocket (among other characters) for Marvel when he worked for them back in the 80s. In the early 90s he was struck in a hit and run accident and suffered severe head and brain trauma and requires 24 hour care. IIRC it took various creators going public for Disney to acknowledge Mantlo and work out a deal with his estate for royalties compensation for Rocket for GotG and beyond.
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