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COMICS!!! |OT| August 2020 | I mean, I'll read it... but I'm gonna complain about it!
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Marvel do seem to have a problem with this. I don't understand why they can't have artists just stick to books."We want artists on for more than four issues"
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They get big names for the early issues then they replace them with people they grabbed off the street and hope fans keep buying the book out of habit.
Sadly I bet there is probably some truth here.
Although the guy they got to do Deadpool #5, Gerardo Sandoval, was also great.
I just love Bachalo's art more.
I think my fave recent marvel books have had consistent artists, but they won't draw every issue just cuz it's hard to crank them boys out every month. So Dautermann on aaron thor will do five issues and then Aaron will write a small one off story or two parter in between major arcs for Dautermann to draw. Immortal Hulk has been doing something similar with Joe Bennet. He does all the major issues, but the origin issues of the General or the Leader will be handed off to somebody else. I know Nic Klein said he's plans to be on Thor for years with Cates, although the next story seems to be drawn by Aaron Kuder(who's also great).
Most artists these days either can't or struggle to do a full year of books straight, so they will take issues off.
I still can't believe Walt Simsonson wrote AND drew Thor for about four years.
The age of insane machine men like that are over.
The age of insane machine men like that are over.
Some of the old school guys like Bagley and Romita Jr could hit deadlines month after month but it's very rare. I remember Chris Burnham talking about he maybe gets one good page a *day* when he was doing Morrison's Batman. His Kirkman assassin book Die!Die!Die!, first issue came out in July 2018. The #12 issue is scheduled for next month, August 2020.
Apparently Jack Kirby at his height was drawing 5 or 6 pages a day.
The King of comics indeed.
Maybe its just me but Ewing using that term with quotations and then immediately going "but Black Panther is the real big threat here" probably means something
Woo, finished the Dark Phoenix Arc. I'll stop here for now and finish the rest after a break from "classic" X-men.
Overall I pretty much enjoyed the entire read-through (from UXM #94 onwards), the only parts I didn't like were the ones where Alpha Flight are the antagonists (sorry Canadians). They just weren't interesting as "villains" and felt like a filler roadblock. The proteus arc is my favourite, followed closely by the Phoenix and the Dark Phoenix arc.
Claremont is really good at writing the group as a team, they complement each other well with their personalities and the "moments to shine" are spread out pretty evenly among the group. It's also great seeing their individual characters and their relationships with each other grow throughout the arcs. Wolverine especially became less grating as the story went on, and I actually liked Jean and Scott's relationship by the end.
All in all, good stuff. It's fun to revisit these stories with all the Dawn of X stuff going on and compare the characters now with what they were like then
edit: Oh, and I almost forgot to mention, Bryne's art is sublime throughout
Agreed all around. Especially the Proteus arc which is underrated.
The book was just gold through like 1984, but starting in the mid 80's through to the end of Claremont I kind of felt it limped somewhat here and there. Mostly due to editorial fuckery that messed with Claremont's plans(early X-Factor ugh). Still plenty of great stuff ahead though like Mutant Massacre, everything involving Storm, and some fun crossovers. Plan to continue?
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Yup, absolutely. I'm following this reading order so the next "checkpoint" for me is the end of the brood saga
Chris Claremont X-Men & New Mutants Reading Order
The Dark Phoenix Saga, Days of Future Past; It all starts here with Chris Claremont's 16 year run as writer on X-Men! Here's the order for best reading!
www.comicbookherald.com
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So what's up with the new DCAU? Was Dark Justice League Apokolips War the end of the current universe and things are reset now?
That movie was the end of the line. If they make more movies it will be completely new with different people working on it.
if it ever comes out after all the COVID bullshit.
It's been gone in the solicits so far
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It would be sad if Morrison is done with Marvel and DC.
But if he just wants to write his own characters and stories now I'm fine with that.
For the Tony/Cap/Thor business, it doesn't help that the Avengers haven't had the same influence in the Marvel world as the Justice League. I felt that instead of a big three in people, Marvel had a big three in teams with the Avengers, Fantastic Four and X-Men.
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I don't for a second believe that he's done with superheroes. They all come back.
I bet we see him on The Flash within the next decade. Reading Supergods, it's evident that's his favorite character of all time and he hasn't had a proper long run on it like he has for the other members of the Big 5 in DC.
This to be honest.
You can tell Morrison loves writing superheroes way too much.
He'll get some insane idea and want to come back.
hey that's 25 pages more than I ever thought he'd write, so it's a win in my book.
Paquette just recently finished volume 3 of WW:E1, so I'm guessing that's out next year at some point
Bleed Them Dry
He has some sort of TV deal now. He co-wrote Brand New Day for Peacock. It would suck losing him on Cape books, but im also curious to see his influence on TV.
Because in the heavily segmented world of the Marvel Universe, Iron Man, Cap, and Thor are the only real choices thanks to their stature, powerset, and lack of a status quo that demands more of their time. Three characters who can closely be associated with maturity and responsibility that no one would bat at eye at them being at the forefront of a superhero team.
Think about it. Eliminate all the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man (too carefree), Dr Strange/The Occult (too weird), the cosmic side (again too weird), The Hulk (unstable), Black Panther (rules a country) then who do you have left that's credible enough in that role?
Sure, if you wanted you could say that Iron Man is the link to Marvel's super science side, Thor to its fantasy/cosmic side and Cap to the everyman side, but those aren't the main reason why they're in those roles
Neat video. Liked hearing his insights on his Justice League story. Really need to read his Black Panther after I finish Deathstroke.
I dont think JC was being serious, but I dont expect him to do more than he already is in comics atm. I could see him doing a black label book or something after GL.
"Arkham Asylum 2 he's only ever written 25 pages of, and that was ages back. Has not done anymore." From a streamed interview two days ago
says he got a million other ideas for creator owned comics tho, and he's working on a novel. The monthly ongoing grind is a young man's game and he turned 60 this year so that's that.
yeah, I can definitely see him slowing down a lot on comics after GL and WW3. The amount of insanity he still manages to put in GL is still pretty impressive. I would love a BL AA2, it seems like a book he's always wanted to finish.
edit: He's 60?! Okay he can do whatever he wants, I had no idea lol
I felt the same way, but he's really only six years younger than his arch nemesis Alan Moore, who feels like he's been old since the dawn of time.
I mean, Morrison's been around since the 80s, so it only makes sense that he's getting up there. The 80s were more than 30 years ago. But he just LOOKS so much younger. It's the baldness, I'm sure of it.
That being said, now that I think of it, I don't think I've seen a recent picture of him?
That being said, now that I think of it, I don't think I've seen a recent picture of him?
Well that's because Alan Moore is essentially:
And has been for most of his life
Magic. It either turns your soul old or keep you eternally young.
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