This never would have happened with a box of French Toast Crunch, the only Toast Crunch that's permitted entry into this household.
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Comedian allegedly finds shrimp tails in their Cinnamon Toast Crunch; CTC social media attempts to gaslight them [Up: Dark Past Comes to Light]
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Right. Like my mouth is salivating and I haven't had it in over a year.
Been talking about this a lot with friends in the food industry.
They are pretty confident based on the details of the story that this did not occur in the factory. Factory floors for food are extremely regulated and controlled and cross contamination with something as foreign and exotic as shrimp on a line that produces breakfast cereal is not conceivable. The only explanation for that would be if an employee was carrying around debris in their pocket and then in one of the final phases of production tossed that debris onto the conveyor. If this happened it would be on camera so we'll find out about that.
They think the actual explanation is that it's from the retail store. This picture strongly contributes to that conclusion:
https://twitter.com/JensenKarp/status/1374187045279518720?s=20
As well as this picture, which despite his belief they are "cooked in" to the squares are likely just absorbed due to the transfer or moisture:
https://twitter.com/JensenKarp/status/1374364960210309128?s=20
He shows that it's a family pack with multiple bags, which is the kind of bulk packaging you find at wholesale stores like Costco, Sam's Club, and BJs.
These large warehouse stores are famous for their sampling stands around the store. Frequently these samples are frozen food - usually chicken or fish (including shrimp).
It is pretty clear that at one of these bulk stores, which are prone to pests, a rodent hoarded refuse (a leaf, a string, shrimp tails) it found in the store in to the cereal box where it also left feces. For some reason that defies explanation, someone at the store found the damaged bag and sealed with with tape and placed it back on the shelf.
So while the Cinnamon Toast Crunch response on Twitter is totally unacceptable, this is almost certainly not a factory issue and happened at the retail level. It is the only explanation for the type of contaminants and the repaired state of the bag.
God I love the internet so much
Now I'm just awaiting the reveal of the a third box that contains a severed human head. What are you hiding @CTCSquares!?
I don't think he's trying to defraud General Mills but it's going to get clicks by making hay with it.
Fair. I do wonder, but that doesn't mean I should baselessly speculate, thanks for your clarification.
Couldn't the company sue him then for lies and slander through a hoax? I know random joes try to fake this stuff and get money out of it, but if he has a brand, then it could ruin his reputation for faking it (plus possibly getting sued).
A truly terrifying thing we don't talk abut enough is how much food prod. safety relies on some dude not just dropping shit into the mix. I used to work for a small gourmet food company and one of our products relied on a worker actually adding a bucket of stuff to a hopper where it got mixed into the product. One day the dude at the factory got in a fight with his boss and just fucked off, resulting in a product that was missing it's namesake ingredient. It could have easily gone another way.
There's a lot of sampling, QC, metal detection etc that goes into this but the chaos factor of human beings tossing shit into the product is very real
There's a lot of sampling, QC, metal detection etc that goes into this but the chaos factor of human beings tossing shit into the product is very real
Imagine being a rat just taking a shit while hoarding some cool things you found and having no clue this would one day produce a viral Twitter story.
I would think so. And if he actually did this himself, Costco and General Mills lawyers will sue him into the ground.
Yeah, that's why I lean towards "real", since faking these sort of hoaxes sure don't help anyone. Most cases of random people creating "rat in food" hoaxes, sure don't end up in their favor :/ But yes, sometimes these things DO actually happen. This is just an odd one because of all the strange bits involved in 2 separate bags.
After the human finger found in Wendy's chili incident from years ago, I am skeptical of these types of claims.
Is there such a thing as counterfeit breakfast cereal?
Regardless, General Mills needs to find out where this box was purchased and seize the entire lot to look for contamination. If it's legit, there's no chance it was isolated to this one box given the level of what's there.
Regardless, General Mills needs to find out where this box was purchased and seize the entire lot to look for contamination. If it's legit, there's no chance it was isolated to this one box given the level of what's there.
New regulations are really focused on food defense and food fraud, but in the end it comes down to training. There will always be a person factor (i had a disgruntles employee throw a spatula into a mixer once) but the goal is to minimize this.
Equipment guards, limited access to areas or equipment, additional safety detection. I've done everything from air sorting foreign material, to x-ray every bottle coming down the line. But keeping people from fucking up is a forever struggle.
With that person, she was caught on criminal charges involved money, so looks like she tried to get some money out of Wendy's by faking the whole finger incident. I'm guessing this guy would have a lot to lose if he was faking it for Twitter followers, with that woman already in trouble on money issues.
So there's a it of a difference with intent.
I agree the Wendy's woman was more suspect in general, but if this guy is a comedian he does gain a lot from developing a larger twitter following.
Not if it creates a loss of millions of revenue for General Mills, like if it did for Wendys on a false claim. I mean, if Twitter followers are more important that possibly being sued for a hoax, then that would be some priority right there.
Yeah, it would be a dumb plot, but that hasn't stopped people before, heh.
It was a two pack, not just two random winning boxes he picked.
I know the internet has taught us all to trust nothing, but the only thing weirder than finding shrimp tails, floss, and rat droppings in a box of cereal would be putting putting shrimp tails, floss, and rat droppings into a box of cereal.
Are you trying to gaslight people into to questioning if gaslighting is a actual thing?
Why does he need FOUR "Do Not Eat" post-it notes on a single box of cereal?It was a two pack, not just two random winning boxes he picked.
I know the internet has taught us all to trust nothing, but the only thing weirder than finding shrimp tails, floss, and rat droppings in a box of cereal would be putting putting shrimp tails, floss, and rat droppings into a box of cereal.
More importantly, why do I care that he used four post-it notes?
On topic: This screams scam to me. You found a box with shrimp and animal droppings? Okay, Jan.
The term comes from a play (and later movie) named "Gaslight" --
So it's a single word way of describing a very specific form of lying. That's why the term has caught on.
Was the joke intentional? I ask because 'Google' as a verb and 'gaslight' as a verb were coined in exactly the same way.
EDIT: Wow, my timing was shit.
The theory is the droppings are from the critter that brought the string and shrimp tails.
Believing it or not, it is an odd situation. Either this stuff was in a box of cereal, which would be weird. Or someone put it in there for attention, which I would personally find even weirder. I just don't see Topanga and her boyfriend cooking up some rat shit cinnamon toast crunch.
Plus, the company involved instantly claiming we are all seeing a sugar illusion and not actual shrimp tails immediately gets me to not trust them.
three pounds of cinnamon toast crunch. frankly even with the rat shit i bet that's a good deal.
It would have been a lot simpler to go, sorry Jen, we'll look into it! And then not really look into it and later say how they're not sure it's possible. Give some spiel about how great they're factory conditions are and they'll keep a look out.
That's amazing. I'm onboard for Cinnamon Shrimp Chrunch. Bring it on, probably delicious.
Side note: I hate the fucking use of "Gaslighting" for everything. Gaslighting is psychological manipulation, usually in an abusive relationship... not always in an abusive relationship, but most appropriately. Would Cinnamon Toast Crunch really cause you to question your sanity? Are you in that close of a relationship with Captain Crunch that your sense of self is being shattered by them @'ing you on Twitter? No. It's just a corporate account replying to you and theorizing why they think shrimp got into your cereal... And like others guessed, it's probably from the supermarket. Cinnamon Toast Crunch probably should have just replied "We're investigating this and want to ensure you there's no way shrimp got in your cereal," but that doesn't make it gaslighting... Unless your relationship with the cinnamon toast crunch old man baker mascot is like really, really unhealthy.
Be forewarned, if you disagree with me and reply I'm going to accuse you of gaslighting me.
Be forewarned, if you disagree with me and reply I'm going to accuse you of gaslighting me.
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You don't think an animal, that likes shrimp, might poop? I know I do.
Been talking about this a lot with friends in the food industry.
They are pretty confident based on the details of the story that this did not occur in the factory. Factory floors for food are extremely regulated and controlled and cross contamination with something as foreign and exotic as shrimp on a line that produces breakfast cereal is not conceivable. The only explanation for that would be if an employee was carrying around debris in their pocket and then in one of the final phases of production tossed that debris onto the conveyor. If this happened it would be on camera so we'll find out about that.
They think the actual explanation is that it's from the retail store. This picture strongly contributes to that conclusion:
https://twitter.com/JensenKarp/status/1374187045279518720?s=20
As well as this picture, which despite his belief they are "cooked in" to the squares are likely just absorbed due to the transfer or moisture:
https://twitter.com/JensenKarp/status/1374364960210309128?s=20
He shows that it's a family pack with multiple bags, which is the kind of bulk packaging you find at wholesale stores like Costco, Sam's Club, and BJs.
These large warehouse stores are famous for their sampling stands around the store. Frequently these samples are frozen food - usually chicken or fish (including shrimp).
It is pretty clear that at one of these bulk stores, which are prone to pests, a rodent hoarded refuse (a leaf, a string, shrimp tails) it found in the store in to the cereal box where it also left feces. For some reason that defies explanation, someone at the store found the damaged bag and sealed with with tape and placed it back on the shelf.
So while the Cinnamon Toast Crunch response on Twitter is totally unacceptable, this is almost certainly not a factory issue and happened at the retail level. It is the only explanation for the type of contaminants and the repaired state of the bag.
This makes sense, except for the part where someone sealed the bag with tape and put it back tbh.
Been talking about this a lot with friends in the food industry.
They are pretty confident based on the details of the story that this did not occur in the factory. Factory floors for food are extremely regulated and controlled and cross contamination with something as foreign and exotic as shrimp on a line that produces breakfast cereal is not conceivable. The only explanation for that would be if an employee was carrying around debris in their pocket and then in one of the final phases of production tossed that debris onto the conveyor. If this happened it would be on camera so we'll find out about that.
They think the actual explanation is that it's from the retail store. This picture strongly contributes to that conclusion:
https://twitter.com/JensenKarp/status/1374187045279518720?s=20
As well as this picture, which despite his belief they are "cooked in" to the squares are likely just absorbed due to the transfer or moisture:
https://twitter.com/JensenKarp/status/1374364960210309128?s=20
He shows that it's a family pack with multiple bags, which is the kind of bulk packaging you find at wholesale stores like Costco, Sam's Club, and BJs.
These large warehouse stores are famous for their sampling stands around the store. Frequently these samples are frozen food - usually chicken or fish (including shrimp).
It is pretty clear that at one of these bulk stores, which are prone to pests, a rodent hoarded refuse (a leaf, a string, shrimp tails) it found in the store in to the cereal box where it also left feces. For some reason that defies explanation, someone at the store found the damaged bag and sealed with with tape and placed it back on the shelf.
So while the Cinnamon Toast Crunch response on Twitter is totally unacceptable, this is almost certainly not a factory issue and happened at the retail level. It is the only explanation for the type of contaminants and the repaired state of the bag.
Finale Firework vs. skeptem
Whose reasoning will win out in the end? =O
I'm questioning why a Costco employee would go through all the trouble of taping and resealing a box of Cinnamon Toast Crunch once he realized that the bag had a hole in it. Surely he had to see the little black droppings?
Why not just toss it out lol
Why not just toss it out lol
One time I found a mouse in my garage. He found a source of food (big bag of peanuts), chewed through a corner, and basically just moved into it. It was full of all sorts of stuff I assumed he was using as bedding, all the scraps from what he'd been eating, and plenty of poop. It was kinda cute to be honest.
It's been over 10 years since I worked at a grocery store, but taping up damaged boxes was a pretty normal thing that the floor crew would do. Normally it was only the exterior boxes that would get taped up; if a bag containing food was damaged, you'd waste that shit. However, I worked with a lot of drug addicts and imbeciles, so it doesn't surprise me that someone would see a ripped cereal bag and think it's okay to just tape it up and sell it.
Well this sure isn't a Kellogg's level quality response because it sounds like General Mills wouldn't know rabbit turds from Rice Krispies. "Snap Crackle Poop!"
While the company social media person didn't make a good response, I assume they probably were initially dismissive because it was posted on Twitter by a comedian and they thought maybe they were just bullshitting for laughs, retweets, etc.
General Mills own procedures allow for repackaging at some warehouses.
Either way...we both agree. General Mills fucked up their response.Finale Firework vs. skeptem
Whose reasoning will win out in the end? =O
taping up a $0.12 bag of cereal lol
(i just made up the price. i don't know what it actually is)
(i just made up the price. i don't know what it actually is)
I worked at Costco for a while. Not sure about all stores, but we had a re-wrap station for re-packaging returns or stuff that just had the packaging messed up somehow, normally non-edible items. At my store the re-wrap station is in the back of the store in some corner. The station has stuff like packing tape, shrink wrap thing with a heater, as well as other things for repacking. My guess is a disgruntled employee was working re-wraps and did some shenanigans. It would be fairly easy to do it with no one noticing.
The company's claims make it hard for me to believe this is fake. Unless the company gets this a LOT and are sick of it. You'd think they'd just play it safe and go 'That is very concerning. We pride ourselves in the safety of our product at all points in its distribution from our factory to the store shelves. We will DM you for more information' and then DM them asking for the store location and time purchased and leave it be. It's baffling why they just didn't do that.
I don't work in food retail but we still toss anything that's damaged beyond repair or unlikely to sell without a steep discount after being returned (I've thrown away a LOT of used food containers and bento boxes...). It's surprising to me that it's worth anyone's time to fix that sort of thing up considering the possible issues later on if its contaminated.