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Colt suspends production of AR-15 for civilian market
- Thread starter LiK
- Start date
Didn't another gun maker do the same thing only to face such backlash they shut down or got bought out.
Yeah people want their guns and the NRA was in full effect.
Yeah people want their guns and the NRA was in full effect.
Unfortunately it's a drop in the bucket. There are a ton of AR-15 producers, from boutique manufacturers up to every major manufacturer(minus Colt for now!)
Let's hope this kickstarts a trend and others follow suit, but I'm not holding my breath.
Let's hope this kickstarts a trend and others follow suit, but I'm not holding my breath.
When they (inevitably) bring it back, it will be like the McRib for gun nuts.
Assuming one company's actions are enough for there to be a (temporary) shortage.
"We'd like to take this opportunity to introduce the new 'safer' AR-16!"
Sales must be down. I have no faith that they self regulate based on a greater good.
Sales must be down. I have no faith that they self regulate based on a greater good.
Guns are like graphics cards, just because "EVGA" stops making them off the "AR15" reference design it doesn't mean other OEM's can't keep selling them.
These things need to be fucking banned for civilian use, that's the only way. Too many innocent people have died.
These things need to be fucking banned for civilian use, that's the only way. Too many innocent people have died.
*hundreds of balloons fall from the sky*
*a brass band marches down the the main street playing "More Than a Feeling" and all your other favorite soft adult contemporary hits*
*a banner drops from the tallest building revealing the words "WELL, IT'S A START I GUESS"*
*all the people go out into the streets and shout "OKAY!"*
oh right, forgot to mention the balloons aren't inflated
*a brass band marches down the the main street playing "More Than a Feeling" and all your other favorite soft adult contemporary hits*
*a banner drops from the tallest building revealing the words "WELL, IT'S A START I GUESS"*
*all the people go out into the streets and shout "OKAY!"*
oh right, forgot to mention the balloons aren't inflated
eh...
yeah right? Aren't there just thousands if not... millions? Of AR15's just sitting in warehouses? Stopping production doesn't mean less of those will be sold.
The price will get higher for those now.
OP
OP
And when people hear about the "shortage" they'll be rushing out to buy them before the gummint bans them.
Hah, yeah, gun stores making bank. "Oh, you're lucky, this is my last one, don't know when we'll be getting any more! Because, uh, Obama, amirite?"
While this is I suppose a step in the right direction, I think it gets at a problem at the heart of the American gun control debate. The rhetoric around gun control is centered on the consumer. It's centered around the civilian market, the villains in the narrative generally are civilians buying guns and the stores selling guns to those civilians. And I understand that absolutely. I get mad at the people who treat guns like toys, too.
But if the government really wanted to do something about the proliferation of guns in this country, the government could very well shut down domestic production. They could tax gun production to the point where it's not profitable anymore, they could illegalize production. The federal government did something very similar with flavored vape cartridges just last week, they could ostensibly do it with guns, too. Ending or illegalizing the production of guns and ammunition would be an long-term solution to the problem with fewer loopholes than current civilian sale-based gun control. That idea very rarely comes up, though, because the federal government spends a hell of a lot of money on the weapons the military needs and uses to keep up its level of power in its various interventions in the Middle East.
If the United States actually wants to do something about gun violence in its own country, it would stop financially supporting the manufacturers producing the weapons causing the problem domestically. But this empire is unstable, and it's built on a hell of a lot of consistent and pointless killing, and as long as it is, we're going to keep seeing that violence coming back home.
But if the government really wanted to do something about the proliferation of guns in this country, the government could very well shut down domestic production. They could tax gun production to the point where it's not profitable anymore, they could illegalize production. The federal government did something very similar with flavored vape cartridges just last week, they could ostensibly do it with guns, too. Ending or illegalizing the production of guns and ammunition would be an long-term solution to the problem with fewer loopholes than current civilian sale-based gun control. That idea very rarely comes up, though, because the federal government spends a hell of a lot of money on the weapons the military needs and uses to keep up its level of power in its various interventions in the Middle East.
If the United States actually wants to do something about gun violence in its own country, it would stop financially supporting the manufacturers producing the weapons causing the problem domestically. But this empire is unstable, and it's built on a hell of a lot of consistent and pointless killing, and as long as it is, we're going to keep seeing that violence coming back home.
Sure. This could even be seen as a swerve by Colt to boost sales.
And of course, if Trump loses in 2020 they will be sitting pretty again.
Man, I knew people in rural GA who built their own AR-15 years ago by buying the parts separately...this means nothing other than some minor inconvenience to those who might want them...hell, they might even enjoy it even more since I know those guys loved that sorta stuff.
Colt aren't as big a deal in the civilian market as people think they are. They made the rifles the military used in the past, but those guns can't compete on price against all the cheap efforts that flood the market now. This would be like Ford getting out of making tiny cars in the US.
ResetERA's gun nut chiming in. Colt hasn't been doing well for years. They've lost several government contracts. This isn't really a statement but more or less "We're going down the tubes and want to refocus on what government contracts we have left. The civilian effort is not paying the bills."
Since they aren't stopping forever, it's just that there are enough out there... holy fuck that's even more frightening that they basically made too many...
Who's going to pick up their production? Because *somebody* will. Remington? S&W? Springfield? Or is the whole semi-auto AR market nuclear toxic right now?
Also, "suspended" is definitely not the same as "ending".
Also, "suspended" is definitely not the same as "ending".
Plenty of other companies are already eating Colt's lunch already in the civilian market (FN, Ruger, Springfield, Palmetto, Etc)
I hope from now on comments like these are the only mention of that asshole we get here.
It's really not.
Unless you think Colt is the only maker of AR-15s, or that this isn't a ploy to drive up prices of existing inventory.