i'm about it. Thats basically a movie.
edit: Unless they're each an hour. Either way I'm always a big supporter of letting the story determine how long or how many episodes there are. Keep it tight.
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Collider/THR: Obi-Wan Series on Hold Due to Reworking Scripts
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i'm about it. Thats basically a movie.
edit: Unless they're each an hour. Either way I'm always a big supporter of letting the story determine how long or how many episodes there are. Keep it tight.
That's a major problem with Disney/Lucasfilm as well as rushing films, the first one especially that set off the whole shit show.
How could anyone read that ROS script or even the broad strokes and not think, you know maybe i shouldn't allow this to go forward as it is. That's just plain bad. I'm sure it is on Disney wanting shareholder value targets or whatever so they both get the blame but how can you not see this shit coming to even a basic level.
This. We're approaching the point where you'd have to be a fool to agree to take on a Star Wars project.
Wtf why would she retire when she made them so much money from Star Wars?
So it's more like a movie split into parts than a miniseries? That's not so bad as long as the budget isn't reduced, but I'm really worried they don't know what they want to do with Obi-Wan if their show is too similar to Mandalorian.
Let's not pretend Marvel and Feige didn't have a bumpy road up until the end of Phase 2.
I support doing what it takes to deliver a better product.
Why the fuck are some of you that are so down on RoS being a symptom of the leadership, suddenly mad that same leadership are taking more time instead of rushing into production with weak scripts?
Why the fuck are some of you that are so down on RoS being a symptom of the leadership, suddenly mad that same leadership are taking more time instead of rushing into production with weak scripts?
Uh, because she's basically George Lucas now. The buck stops with her.
Soo were the same people who rumored this last week also citing sources about Disney doing an extended cut of TROS?
Mandalorian has Filoni at the absolute least and had freaking Favreau who is way under valued, MCU wouldn't remotely be what it is without the Iron Man movie he directed.
She is applauded as a great producer and is literally in charge of all of Lucasfilm and yet the behind the scenes of just 1 out of her 5 Star Wars movies wasn't a disaster(thats not even counting stuff like RJ's trilogy or GoT guy's situation).
People keep saying this. Marvel has never released a single commercially underperforming film, much less a massive flop like Solo; their films have mostly done well critically; and they have achieved huge levels of pop cultural penetration and fan appreciation that Star Wars hasn't had in twenty years. And yes, it's always been this way, even in the early days of Phases 1-2. And not a single MCU film has had the behind-the-scenes chaos that marks nearly every Lucasfilm production. The worst Marvel has had is a few director swaps months before filming.
Acting like the MCU was on the verge of collapse in 2011 is absurd.
The part where all the characters stop talking and resorts to nothing but fan service as Star Wars toys are smash against each other for 30 minutes?
Lol not really, Iger, for better or worse, is usually pretty hands off. He installs people he trusts in charge of studios/departments and let's them do what they do. It worked for Marvel, it worked for Pixar, it's not working for Star Wars.
"Too similar to Mandalorian" makes me think they still didn't get the ST's lesson that they need to plan things a bit, instead of letting each director do whatever the fuck they want.
We had people in this thread bringing up Iger despite him not being brought up at all in the article. Besides that, she's the head of Lucasfilm. She's ultimately responsible. Look at her counterpart inside the same company. Who do people feel is ultimately responsible for the MCU? Definitely not Iger.
There's been minimal articles from the media talking about Kennedy's working relationship with Iger in the sense of whether Iger is the one placing demands on Kennedy or if Kennedy has free reign. Almost all of the previous issues with directors has stemmed from issues Kennedy herself has had with the directors/scripts/whatever.
Critical acclaim. Audience acclaim. Commercial success with over $1B in BO.
Take this L and keep it moving.
Also, if it's only 4 episodes long, for a story such as Obi-Wan's past ROTS and pre-ANH, lengthy episodes in a mini-series format seems like the way to go.
The series needs to have Obi-Wan noticed on Tatooine, and going offworld to draw attention away from Luke and faking his death, not taking care of Luke on Tatooine. With a lot of Clone Wars flashbacks with Hayden. A battle with sand people on Tatooine though finding out what Anakin did would be great.
There is a time schedule to hit, that's a big part of the problem. I doubt you get much leeway there.
For all we know Kennedy cares greatly about Star Wars and perhaps was overly cautious and overthinks it leading them with no time to change things and you end up with a mess.
I think that's rather unfair. The first Iron Man was fantastic, the second one not so much, the first Captain America was great and, despite being the worst movie of the first "phase", even Thor managed to make enough of an impression that Loki was brought back to be the main antagonist of the first big crossover movie - which, I may add, was a monumental success.
Saying they had a bumpy road up until Age of Ultron came out is a bit disingenuous because Phase One was a huge achievement already. They just hadn't totally decided on a direction until they filmed the first Avengers movie and decided the Infinity Gems and Thanos would be the endgame.
I would say it depends on how long they aim the episodes to be.
How does a woman who worked on raiders, Jurassic park, ET and essentially every classic adventure film of the late 80s through 90s suck so goddamn hard at running star wars. Fucking obsidian entertainment were working out of their garage when they made kotor 2 and they hit that shit out of the part.
That's what I find insane. How bad must the Obi Wan scripts have been to cause the person who approved RoS to stop production due to their quality? Were they going to make the Star Wars version of The Room or something? My goodness
I wouldn't mind a 4 hour episodic mini series that let's them explore things and take it at a slow pace. (depending on length of episodes). Wouldn't want this to be condensed into a 2.5 movie... so I guess this just depends on how long it ends up being.
Lets see, in just a few short years she and her team has:
- Rushed into making a long awaited trilogy with zero planning, no road map, no vision, nothing. Literally nothing.
- Hired directors/ writers with vastly different ideas that clashed so badly with each other that it resulted in them having to do terrible and embarrassing fan service ( if you even want to call it that).
- Approved movies that absolutely no one wanted for no reason other than spamming SW every year for easy $$$.
- Hired two hack writers ( DB Weiss & David Benioff) that ruined the biggest TV series of our time, are notorious for racism and being misogynist, to do future main films.
- Caved in and catered to the assholes that hated Kelly Marie Tran's character and basically removed any meaningful role she could've had in TROS.
- Fired Lord and Miller for creative differences and had to basically reshoot all of Solo ( a movie that no one asked for).
- Put the one thing that people that have been asking for, for years ( Kenobi) on "hold" because she didnt like the scripts despite saying scripts were done ages ago. Lets face it, it's probably canceled.
- Pissed off multiple actors from the movies with terrible decision making about their characters, especially Mark Hamill.
- The one solid thing she did approve ( The Mandalorian) isnt even that great. In fact, it's pretty damn overrated. It was played so safely that it can only go up from here, which is why people have hope for it. And the fact that it has solid people running it.
See above ^^^
That's assuming each episode is a full hour instead of 45 minutes or so. Truncating that to a 2.5 hour movie doesn't seem insane. They could even do a two parter since they don't want to do trilogies anymore.
Have they explicitly said they would be one hour episodes? Most people figured The Mandalorian would be 50 minute episodes and most of them barely clock in at 30 minutes.
This is what I posted on the Star Wars OT:
So in other words:
THR is not reporting baseless gossip though.
Yes, only one good product.
If you're delusional and ignore the first two critically acclaimed sequel films and very well received Rogue One.
The really troubling part was the idea that Obi was going to actually spend his time overseeing Luke and possibly even Leia lol.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Series on Hold as Calls Go Out for New Scripts
Disney+ and Lucasfilm’s 'Star Wars' series centered on Obi-Wan Kenobi has been put on hold as the companies attempt a retooling.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Okay? Their article literally just came out and offers a much better explanation then "Oh they don't like the scripts."
I also rely more on trades like THR than Collider and probably wouldn't have made those had they been the ones to initially break the story.
LOL, both TLJ and TROS have completely fucked up Star Wars canon forever to the point that re-visiting the post is now problematic
I s'pose it would be a little weird for Obi-Wan to stay in a little house a few miles from the Lars homestead for twenty years. He must have gone to other places, done other things. A planet is still a pretty big place after all.
TLJ very literally did nothing to "fuck up canon forever." Hyperbolic nonsense.
And again, compare the amount of those instances compared to the amount of times "IT'S ALL KATHLEEN'S FAULT" Iger gets nowhere near the amount of shit that Kathleen gets for ANYTHING SW related. And the reasons are pretty damn obvious. And no, it's not because "Well she's the head of Lucasfilm." Because no one bring up Kathleen Kennedy whenever they praise things like The Mandalorian, no one brought up Kathleen when they praised TFA and TLJ. Kathleen is only a part of the conversation whenever people need to blame everything on a single person while they write out a shitpost about how SW sucks and nothing is good, (something verifiably not true btw).