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Code Veronica has to be remade in order to have another shot at having another experience that resembles RE2Make. To become the real RE3, again
- Thread starter Dreamboum
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Or they could use these new models, age them up a little and finally give us new adventures with the cast we love.
"A lot less grey than people realize"
*posts three screenshots that are 50-75% grey* lmao
I'd love CV to be remade, particularly since it would give RE2Remake's Claire another round of being awesome.
*posts three screenshots that are 50-75% grey* lmao
I'd love CV to be remade, particularly since it would give RE2Remake's Claire another round of being awesome.
In theory, yes... but in practice, Alexia got blowed up in the game she appeared in and was never again mentioned, while Wesker got retconned into being the big bad puppetmaster all along. Like, they could've done something with Alexia besides have her rant, be sad about her dead brother, and get killed, but what we got out of her was just that and nothing more.
Wesker... I love him as a big dumb hammy mastermind he became, but really, him coming back was like if Paul Reiser showed up at the end of Alien Resurrection, revealing he had survived the events of Aliens and puppeteer the events of the franchise from that point on. An inconsequential traitor character who could've stayed dead got inexplicably resurrected with super Matrix powers.
Still, Wesker coming back with stupid Matrix powers essentially was the only important thing to come out of CV in terms of the main plot.
I definitely support a remake of CV. It needs it a lot. There are a lot of small tweaks they could make to get improve it to make it stand up better with 1-3, and Claire is my favorite RE protagonist so that's another reason lol.
I honestly really don't want them to touch 4 at all. The HD remaster is good enough.
I honestly really don't want them to touch 4 at all. The HD remaster is good enough.
Yes, he was annoying he kept fucking it up for both of them too, like when he crashes the digger into the gas-pipe because he was too busy staring at Claire's ass instead of watching where it was going.
I hope CV gets a whole story overhaul. I almost wish they do a full retcon/alternate timeline and eliminate or at least tone down superhuman wesker. It was cool when I was younger but now I see him as the catalyst for the later RE entries culminating in the bombast of RE6
It's been a while, but I seem to recall the in-game files about her being more interesting.
CV is not a side story. It's directly followed up on in both Darkside Chronicles and RE5.
RE3 meanwhile has no true direct successor to its specific plotline. The remake might set something up on that end, but RE3 is definitely more of a footnote in the RE chronology than CV is.
RE3 meanwhile has no true direct successor to its specific plotline. The remake might set something up on that end, but RE3 is definitely more of a footnote in the RE chronology than CV is.
So much wrong in this OP, it's so much tiring saying the same thing after almost 20 year.
RE3 is RE3 and RECV is RECV it will never be anything else, and RE3 is a great follow up to RE2 and it was and always will be faithful to what made the RE formula so good.
And RE3R is not a good representative to the OG even if it was good in its own merits so I'm not even talking about it.
RE3 is RE3 and RECV is RECV it will never be anything else, and RE3 is a great follow up to RE2 and it was and always will be faithful to what made the RE formula so good.
And RE3R is not a good representative to the OG even if it was good in its own merits so I'm not even talking about it.
I support a CV remake because it's the worst of the classics easily and I would like more Claire.
Saying CV is the real RE3 feels asinine though. I could say RE3 is the real RE2 because it picks up Jill's story from the first game. RE4 is the real RE3 because it continues Leon's story from RE2. You could say it but it's not really true
Saying CV is the real RE3 feels asinine though. I could say RE3 is the real RE2 because it picks up Jill's story from the first game. RE4 is the real RE3 because it continues Leon's story from RE2. You could say it but it's not really true
I don't even even know where to begin when replying to this OP, so I will just go with, ENOUGH with all the remakes. Make new games please.
What happened there is literally why Umbrella went down in the first place.
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Matrix Wesker being established, Chris getting smacked around by him being the reason for him roiding out years later, T-Veronica virus being one of the things from which RE6's was derived. Nothing else from that game is relevant in the grand scheme.
It's funny that REmake 3 is much closer to what people think the original was. Thinking they have the same structure only shows how one can have a wrong view of the 1999 game.
In terms of actually getting a serious remake, I think CV deserves it more than any other RE game. I like the game, but it has a ton of flaws. Voice acting needs to be way better across the board. Fix the issue of having a run ender against Mr X on the plane. Fix the overall pacing and also add more content that helps flesh out more information about what is going on exactly. I don't mind that it's a long game, but it did feel a bit... padded maybe?
I never got to play it, so a remake that makes it better and more modern would be awesome for me. I love the RE formula.
It couldn't have been more of a disappointment that REmake 3 ended up essentially being an also-ran next to REmake 2 after the original had more to distinguish it from its predecessor.
I don't think Capcom is interested in remaking a game which was never as popular as other RE titles, but if they do, they better fix Claire in it. The fact she is completely sidelined in the second half is criminal.
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Cause RE4 doesn't need a RE2/3 style remake.
I strongly disagree. I recently played Code Veronica X on Xbox One (via 360 BC) again, after not having played it for 20 years. I just couldn't get over the controls, I found it incredibly frustrating, even though I played through Resident Evil (remake HD) a few years ago and enjoyed it, I'd rather not play with tank controls anymore. RE:CV has so much potential to be an amazing experience on modern consoles. A simple graphics update won't cut it
RE:CV was the first RE game I ever played. At the time I was just excited for an entry in the series on a platform I owned (DC). But, having just played RE2 (remake), then wanting to jump into CV, I couldn't believe how smoothly 2 flowed into CV. I didn't have a connection of the characters when I first played CV, but now I do, and I'd love to see CV given a proper remake.
It was the first point in the OP that gave me headache when he stated that RE3R followed the OG game roots, like WTF!!!!!!
RE3 isn't any different than 2 or even 1, heck if you are talking about how RE3 is more action-oriented (which sometimes some fans lead you to believe it's on par with 4,5 or 6) than RE2, the same applies with 2 and 1.
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Why do you act like RE3 established the Raccoon City outbreak? Everyone who escaped knew about it. Kennedy became a government agent with knowledge on the matter. It was Wesker who brought down Umbrella. Who brought back Wesker?
"Nothing else is relevant except two of the most important characters in the entire series coming back" is one hell of a take
I'm not saying that it's bad, just saying that it's fragrant bullshit to be critical of anime like flash and pizzazz and then turn around and say this thing isn't like that because I happen to like it.
I don't get when OP is like return to Old school RE when we have Wesker and Alexia going lol "Virus mode, bitches" in this game instead of the usual fighting horrific monsters designed to be such.
RE4 literally had the fall of Umbrella as just a intro to the game. They didnt show it or anything
2nd best RE after ReMake. Hopefully they only port it to the PC and other platforms. Don't touch the game, its perfect as it is, I don't want the third dumbed down OTS remake in a row.
RE3 was a glorified expansion and is more overrated by its diehards than Dark Souls 2.
CV on the other hand features some of the best exploration, atmosphere, and puzzles in the series. And before REmake 2 on Hardcore, it was one of the last games in the series where resource management truly mattered, and was integral to players' success. It's also probably the most memorable RE story for me thanks to Wesker.
CV on the other hand features some of the best exploration, atmosphere, and puzzles in the series. And before REmake 2 on Hardcore, it was one of the last games in the series where resource management truly mattered, and was integral to players' success. It's also probably the most memorable RE story for me thanks to Wesker.
You can keep saying it's the "true" Resident Evil 3, but it doesn't make it true.
Actually, they can. Or have you seen the Grave Digger boss in the Resident Evil 3 remake? Not saying that they would remove said boss. Just saying that they could, if remaking Code Veronica. By the way, said boss scared the shit out of me in CV, just like Black Tiger in the original Resident Evil (Remake).
RE3 didn't establish the outbreak, but it certainly established the US government having to nuke the city to contain it and that becoming public knowledge rather than just a handful of people who actually escaped knowing what Umbrella did was far more damning, with RE4 playing scenes from RE3 over its intro explaining what happened to Umbrella. Wesker alone didn't bring down Umbrella, his testimony (which was a factor but not even mentioned in RE4) along with the company losing their court cases and their stocks crashing brought down Umbrella.
One and done. Where did the narrative come from that dismissed RE3 as a mainline entry,e and somehow elevated Veronica from trash-tier to real-deal status Man, I loathed that game. The pacing alone was a nightmare, and it all felt so divorced from the core RE storyline with no redeeming qualities to make up for it. (RE4 did, too, in an even bigger way, but made up for it in spades with superior gameplay and an insanely entertaining cast).
Nemesis and the Raccoon City setting have endured in gaming culture, too, for a very good reason. No one really gives a shit about Veronica's legacy, based on my anecdotal convos with gaming friends.
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Since the start and CV receiving rave reviews? Check the boards at that time, it's not a recent narrative.
Didn't RE3 review super-well back in '98, too? Good reviews for CV (however misguided, imo) doesn't in and of itself birth the narrative that "it's the real 3 and Nemesis was gaiden poo!" which I see a lot of more and more these days, probably emboldened by the Re3make this month.
All that really gives CV its power, from my POV, is the presence of big characters -- Claire, Chris, and Wesker. It could've been 4, I think, and RE4 could've easily been 5. It followed the RE formula. It just sucked. So I get annoyed when I see people bitch about how it deserved the number more than Nemesis, which arguably influenced the series more and has a longer-lasting legacy? IDK. That's my take.
There's a reason why people want a remake of Outbreak File 1 and 2. It's setting, and characters, and the event. Best parts.
It's not a recent narrative as at the time of release CV on the surface appeared to be pushing forward while RE3 wasn't seen as that important. Imo this was because CV was releasing on the shiny new Dreamcast while the PS1 was aging. Both games got good reviews at their time of release, but the things CV did hasn't aged well at all while RE3 has aged like fine wine. It has a better legacy and is remembered more fondly than CV in my experience with the fandom
Is this a hidden 'action horror vs survival horror' thread? Sounds like RE3 doesn't deserve its title because it's more action oriented or something.
A pc port of the ps4 version is more than enough for me.
But sure,why not? As long as it's not a short game like 7,2 and 3.
Give me a 15hs single player game worth paying full price for once.
A pc port of the ps4 version is more than enough for me.
But sure,why not? As long as it's not a short game like 7,2 and 3.
Give me a 15hs single player game worth paying full price for once.
Word. Would be amazing! Loved Outbreak, warts and all.
I don't remember the audience/journalists remarking that RE3 wasn't important, but I'll take your word for it. I suppose it might have temporarily felt 'old', with news of a Dreamcast release coming the next year (it was a launch DC title, right?), but as you noted, RE3 aged far better for a variety of reasons.
Code Veronica is up there with RE1 and RE2 for me. The focus on an immersive plot and puzzle solving was exactly what I wanted at the time and it delivered in spades. It has an identity all of its own.
I'd get it if they also remake CV as it's one of the classic games. No need to remake RE4 though, that's still very contemporary.
I'd get it if they also remake CV as it's one of the classic games. No need to remake RE4 though, that's still very contemporary.
Not that it wasn't important, but it felt like there was more hype for CV than 3 at the time for a bunch of different reasons
Not as important in comparison
I would be down if they remade it vs a remake, keep core concepts and rework.
that way still keep focus on new mainline and bro in more money still from not too much effort.
that way still keep focus on new mainline and bro in more money still from not too much effort.
Gameplay preferences and overall game quality aside, I don't see how anyone who played the first two games could come out of RE3 thinking "yep, this totally isn't a side story."
RE1: Two characters in a brand new setting
RE2: Two characters in a brand new setting, directly continues the ending of RE1
CVX: Two characters in a brand new setting, directly continues the ending of RE2
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RE3: One character in an expanded version of RE2's setting, doesn't continue the ending of RE2 (though I guess you could argue it's a direct follow-up to RE1)
One of these games is clearly not like the others. I'm not trying to "dishonour" RE3 by saying it's basically a side game, but it's largely inconsequential outside of Raccoon City getting wiped off the map. Most of the little things it brought to the table could easily have been inferred from playing RE2. Umbrella has connections in the government? Hardly a shocker when people like the police chief were already on their pay roll.
RE5 was the follow-up to CVX, so there's going to be a pretty substantial gap in the newly HDified story if Capcom pretends it doesn't exist.
RE1: Two characters in a brand new setting
RE2: Two characters in a brand new setting, directly continues the ending of RE1
CVX: Two characters in a brand new setting, directly continues the ending of RE2
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RE3: One character in an expanded version of RE2's setting, doesn't continue the ending of RE2 (though I guess you could argue it's a direct follow-up to RE1)
One of these games is clearly not like the others. I'm not trying to "dishonour" RE3 by saying it's basically a side game, but it's largely inconsequential outside of Raccoon City getting wiped off the map. Most of the little things it brought to the table could easily have been inferred from playing RE2. Umbrella has connections in the government? Hardly a shocker when people like the police chief were already on their pay roll.
RE5 was the follow-up to CVX, so there's going to be a pretty substantial gap in the newly HDified story if Capcom pretends it doesn't exist.
The destruction of Raccoon City and Jill's infection that went into the development of Uroborus could have been explained away in a file I read to today.
Chris and Claire escaping an island and Wesker returning after watching the Matrix was much more significant story beats however.
Chris and Claire escaping an island and Wesker returning after watching the Matrix was much more significant story beats however.
While I understand the hate about Steve, there must be a remake of code veronica, imo, it has better story continuation than RE4.
The events in europe are great and highly linked to the end of re2.
Also, Claire and Chris in the same game = profit.
The events in europe are great and highly linked to the end of re2.
Also, Claire and Chris in the same game = profit.
And RE1.5 became RE3.
CV isn't particularly ambitious considering how little it adds to the formula.
What "spirit"?
What "lineage"?
There's nothing about CV that makes it more RE3 than RE3. RE and CV both follow on from both 1 and 2, but 3 actually closes out the Raccoon City storyline while CV closes out Claire's story, and both games end on the exact same note ("let's get Umbrella").
Kamiya was gonna direct RE3, but with the PS2 on the way, Capcom decided it wouldn't be done in time before the PS2 launched, and instead decided to move development to next gen. In order to fill the gap, Capcom decided to promote a side story game, variously codenamed RE1.5/1.9/2.1, originally featuring a new character, to a true sequel to RE1 and 2 starring Jill, and increased its budget. They gave it the RE3 title in order for titles of PS1 games would remain consistent. Kamiya's RE4 project on PS2 became radically different from what Resident Evil was, but instead of scrapping the project, they decided to make it its own IP, namely Devil May Cry.
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